anyone try super slow training?

[Anthrax Invasion]

First off, don't try and bring up age, since it has nothing to do with this. Doing so just shows how ignorant you are.

Second, don't make these silly fucking assumptions that I don't know what I'm talking about. Again, showing what an ignorant fucktard you are.

Third, everything we all learn is something that someone else spit out you moron. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you didn't think before you typed that above, 'cause you're further proving my point - that you're an idiot.

Stop speaking and typing in English, asshat. You didn't invent the fucking language, so quit "regurgatating" ( ) it.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=regurgitating <~~Click. Read. Learn.

Douche bag.

 

[Longhorn85]

Work = Force x Distance where Force=mass x accelartion

Work represents the stimulus being placed on the muscle. So basically we have W= FxMxA. Now if you acclereate through a lift at 1.5m/s as opposed to 0.5m/s you have just trippled the work(stimulus) placed on the muscle.

Don't ask me where time fits into the equation, but thats one way of thinking about it.

Good thinking but if I remember my Physics

Acceleration is not the speed, which you have depicted (meters per second). It is the rate of increase (meters per second, squared).

W does not equal FxMxA, W = M x A x Distance.

So if Mass and Distance are fixed, greater acceleration means more work.

Maybe that means it is better to start the rep slow and finish fast rather than have a constant speed?

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

Good thinking but if I remember my Physics

Acceleration is not the speed, which you have depicted (meters per second). It is the rate of increase (meters per second, squared).

W does not equal FxMxA, W = M x A x Distance.

So if Mass and Distance are fixed, greater acceleration means more work.

Maybe that means it is better to start the rep slow and finish fast rather than have a constant speed?

Too much thinking about nominal stuff. Train fast to be fast, train slow to be slow. Yes, you can nitpick and complicate things beyond that, but that's what it'll come down to.

Honestly, your best bet is to do the concentric portions of all reps explosively (as weights approach 100% RM, speed will be slow regardless of how explosive you try to be), and then do a steady, typical negative. 'course, some exercises have exceptions.

 

[enigma4dub]

First off, don't try and bring up age, since it has nothing to do with this. Doing so just shows how ignorant you are.

Second, don't make these silly fucking assumptions that I don't know what I'm talking about. Again, showing what an ignorant fucktard you are.

Third, everything we all learn is something that someone else spit out you moron. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you didn't think before you typed that above, 'cause you're further proving my point - that you're an idiot.

Stop speaking and typing in English, asshat. You didn't invent the fucking language, so quit "regurgatating" ( ) it.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=regurgitating <~~Click. Read. Learn.

Douche bag.

lol @ u. thank you for the spell check. why is it that anytime someone disagrees with you, you turn to childish name calling? ill just ignore your rant and keep in mind you get offended when someone mentions your age. which if you actually READ my post and ccj, regarding age and fat reduction beyond thermodynamics,IT WAS NOT A PUTDOWN. HELLO!? JUST A FACT.



"coolcolj yeah it's a hell of a lot easier in your late teens!

I used to get lean just doing a 30min walk in the mornings...that doesn't work anymore...
all to do with hormones, enjoy it while it lasts

It's not just a matter of calories in and calories out. Everything is interactive in the body. And diet doesn't shrink all types of fat deposits in the body"

 

[enigma4dub]

Good thinking but if I remember my Physics

Acceleration is not the speed, which you have depicted (meters per second). It is the rate of increase (meters per second, squared).

W does not equal FxMxA, W = M x A x Distance.

So if Mass and Distance are fixed, greater acceleration means more work.

Maybe that means it is better to start the rep slow and finish fast rather than have a constant speed?

that is dead on when it comes to dynamic rows. accelerate through the lift.

 

[36drew]

Honestly, your best bet is to do the concentric portions of all reps explosively (as weights approach 100% RM, speed will be slow regardless of how explosive you try to be), and then do a steady, typical negative. 'course, some exercises have exceptions.

Agreed in full.

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

lol @ u. thank you for the spell check. why is it that anytime someone disagrees with you, you turn to childish name calling? ill just ignore your rant and keep in mind you get offended when someone mentions your age. which if you actually READ my post and ccj, regarding age and fat reduction beyond thermodynamics,IT WAS NOT A PUTDOWN. HELLO!? JUST A FACT.

Well I seemed to overlook that you were using it as that, and not a way to say "you're too young to know enough about this". For that, I apologize.

At the same time, though, stop emulating the shit CCJ said. Don't regurgitate the whole point of age factoring in. Jesus, what's wrong with you? Can't you create your own facts?

You'll ignore my rant because you've got nothing else to retort with. That's why, not because it's suddenly childish and you're going to take the "higher road" by refusing to participate. A little intimidated by internet name-calling? My, oh my.

Oh, and calories in vs. calories out is still the main factor, even as you grow old. The only difference is, your metabolism slows down and you need to adjust accordingly.

Yes, I'm aware there are some other things at play that change as you age. Calories are still the main issue to tinker with. The rest is just details. I'd say, even as you grow older, thermodynamics apply.

And for all those grandpas, there's always HRT. Get those T-levels nice and high again, increase sex drive, and lose fat like you were twenty. Well, not exactly, but it helps.

 

[enigma4dub]

First i never said thermodynamics wasnt essential to weight loss. I said there are other things involved past your teen years. which you just agreed with.

Secondly, Im assuming since you misread my post(regarding age) that you take issue with me questioning your knowledge based upon your posts. ie "regurgitating" others statements and misinterpreting them. A good retort from you would be a sample of books and articles you have read, classes you have attended degrees you have attained etc that prove me wrong.

However you decide to shoot from the hip and "punk" me on the internet. well you'll excuse me, I dont get in internet fights.

edit: i think anthrax is still bitter over this exchange where several members question his hypothesis on the deadlift.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5713621#post5713621

 

[OMEGA]

have used it for very specific exercises
i call it going "static " and sectioned the actual technique into 3 sub-techniques within one full technique if that makes sense