I use it occasionally for the nights that you want to impress.I can get ecstacy with viagra in it.I love it,not only do you get ripped but you get a rager after headin home.kinda fun,I got wired last week and after getting home were laying in bed startin to crash and before you know it BAM.Huge chubby for no reason.Too sketched and tired to use but alot of fun.