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Anyone get this after deads?

burnthiscorpse

burnthiscorpse

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Deads were saturday. I upped my work sets by 50 lbs. Couple eye bulging sets. Ofcourse I have some glute, ham, trap back soreness a little more than usual. Even a little in the abs. No big deal.
This morning I am banging the wife, and since I got done I feel like someone is trying to pull my belly button out with pliers. If I touch the top side of it, it hurts like hell. Obviously I aggravated the sore abdomen from dead day. Anyone?
 
I dont wear a belt until i get above 225 or 275. I'm still coming back from a knee injury (knee is fine but patella and quad tendons are still weak) so my dead is only about a 405 max for 1 right now. I was working with 315 2 weeks ago for about 7. This week I got it for an easy 8 x 2 sets. Then upped to 365 for 7 x 1 set. I know its not alot for a 265 lb dude, but Its getting up there quickly. (goddamn knee) I didnt wear a belt for the first set of 315. I did for the rest of the sets. Belt helped dramatically.
 
i get a feeling similiar to this after playing bball sometimes. it feels like my dick and belly button are connected by a string and it hurts like a mofo if i try to straighten out
 
That happens to me sometimes when doing some exercises usually on the same day a couple of ours after the workout and yes it also happened when i was playing basketball, but it doesn't last for days...

Honestly i think you should check it out with your doc.
 
as i was typing this post earlier today I noticed as i was laying back in my recliner I couldnt feel it. Pushing all over my stomach and couldnt find it. I stood up and felt around then hit one spot and it was like a sharp pain. Fucking hurt. That was early afternoon. Its midnite now. Its barely there. Just a dull "strain" type feeling.
Im sure it was major stressed from the heavier deads. Then while being sore and being first thing after opening my eyes this morning, fucking the shit out of my wife with me on top pulled and aggravated it a little.
If there is even I slight hint of it on saturday when I go to do deads I wont do them. I was going to throw rack pulls from the knee in this week on back day (thurs). But another no if there is any symptoms.
Doesnt hurt if I flex my abs though.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
as i was typing this post earlier today I noticed as i was laying back in my recliner I couldnt feel it. Pushing all over my stomach and couldnt find it. I stood up and felt around then hit one spot and it was like a sharp pain. Fucking hurt. That was early afternoon. Its midnite now. Its barely there. Just a dull "strain" type feeling.
Im sure it was major stressed from the heavier deads. Then while being sore and being first thing after opening my eyes this morning, fucking the shit out of my wife with me on top pulled and aggravated it a little.
If there is even I slight hint of it on saturday when I go to do deads I wont do them. I was going to throw rack pulls from the knee in this week on back day (thurs). But another no if there is any symptoms.
Doesnt hurt if I flex my abs though.
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brother you're flirting with an umbilical hernia. In fact you could already have a very slight one, but so minor there's no constant pain or visible bulge.

You need to very careful.
 
RottenWillow said:
brother you're flirting with an umbilical hernia. In fact you could already have a very slight one, but so minor there's no constant pain or visible bulge.

You need to very careful.
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Something like that crossed my mind thats why I posted the other thread about breathing during them.:biggrin:
I wanna make sure I am being as safe as possible. If I have to I will go much lighter for much higher reps. Just so i still get the benefits of "doing" deads.
As far as what you mentioned, what is the severity of it? I assume it needs surgery to be fixed if it were serious.
 
^^^^ Honestly as I am sitting here resting after chest day I do feel a little soreness in there. Its residual though, not new soreness. Nothing unless i push deep and feel around. Its just a slight dullness.

I will wear a belt from now on for sure. The serious expansion and stress in the abdomen came when I wasnt using a belt.

You think it would be wise to knock off a week or maybe go light with a belt? Like 225 for high reps.

I have a doc apt. in 2 weeks anyways so I will have it checked out when i am there.
 
nah, i'm not. I did a little googleing in the last few minutes. I think as much as it pains me, If there is any feeling AT ALL when I press really deep into my abdomen this saturday, I will skip deads and also keep my clean and press to 135. I plan on wearing a belt for everything from now on till its gone just to make sure the abdomen doesnt get over extended during exertion. Back day isnt til thursday.
 
I would lose the cleans for now, they require some level of explosiveness, which it's not good right now. A few classes of yoga would be nice too, they'll teach you how to breath properly and how to gain control of your abs while breathing and weightlifting.
 
a belt will not protect a hernia injury, and may even place more pressure on the spot... imo, the belt only good for pushing off of to pull more weight... if you do decide to pull light, i would go raw, but you should probably take a week off deads to be safe...
 
moya said:
a belt will not protect a hernia injury, and may even place more pressure on the spot... imo, the belt only good for pushing off of to pull more weight... if you do decide to pull light, i would go raw, but you should probably take a week off deads to be safe...
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I think Im going to just not do deads until I feel nothing at all in that area. However long that is.

I was however wanting to try rack pulls from the knee on this coming back day. That really is mostly back.....or should I skip it?

Also on saturday when I clean and press from the floor i think I am just going to do standing clean and press not from the floor.
 
i feel my rack pulls mostly in the upper back, and not really at all in the core... i think that would be ok as long as you dont get carried away with the weight... as its easy to load a ton on rack pulls...
honestly i would skip the cleans and just do standing presses for the week...
most of the time after a week off or a week of light lifting you come back stronger anyways...
 
moya said:
i feel my rack pulls mostly in the upper back, and not really at all in the core... I think that would be ok as long as you dont get carried away with the weight... As its easy to load a ton on rack pulls...
Honestly i would skip the cleans and just do standing presses for the week...
Most of the time after a week off or a week of light lifting you come back stronger anyways...
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+1
 
Definatley no going to do deads til there is no trace of any soreness. I will do rack pulls but keep it sane. I will also do them raw.
The reason I was going to do the standing clean and press is because the standing clean really kicks my ass. I dont think the pull/jerk up the the shoulders from standing will affect me at all. I dunno. I will try it with 95 lb and feel it out.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
^^^^ Honestly as I am sitting here resting after chest day I do feel a little soreness in there. Its residual though, not new soreness. Nothing unless i push deep and feel around. Its just a slight dullness.

I will wear a belt from now on for sure. The serious expansion and stress in the abdomen came when I wasnt using a belt.

You think it would be wise to knock off a week or maybe go light with a belt? Like 225 for high reps.

I have a doc apt. in 2 weeks anyways so I will have it checked out when i am there.
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From what you're reporting I think you may well already have a tear in there, but right now it's very slight. I absolutely would not suggest you press on it anymore. You could make the tear larger.

Usually once there's a tear in the ab wall, stress just makes it rip more. Like when a hole in the seam in your shirt appears; over time it only get's bigger.

Yes, hernias, even small ones, eventually need to be surgically repaired. You may not want to hear this, but I'd encourage you do drop the deads and squats until you see a doc. If that is a tiny hernia right now, one single rep could blow out that sucker out. You'd put on the bar and touch yourself there and find a knot sticking out.
 
Ya man i was gonna say sounds like a hernia, get that shit checked out because if it rips open bigger its gonna take alot longer to recover from.
 
Thanks guys(and gals:biggrin:) .

Like I said, No more deads til I get it checked. I was still planing on doing light clean and press but from standing positon. The last time I did standing it was all shoulders and arms, traps, ect...Do you guys think this would pressurize the area?
Tomorrow is back day. I was still wanting to do knee high rack pulls at a reasonable weight. I will try them light and not go above 225. I will also do them raw.
Unless this too sounds like a very bad idea?

My bro is a physical therapist and i spoke to him quick. He didnt rule out the umbilical hernia, but he also said I could just have a very small abdominal tear too. He is going to check me out friday.
BUT...yes, I have a doc apt. on 10/22.

BTW, what is required to "detect" an issue? MRI? CT?
 
It very well could but it would be best to see a doctor nobody on here can accurately answer that for you.
 
I did one set of rack pulls with 135 then a second set with 225 thursday night. Being careful of breathing and very conscious of where i was pulling from. After the 225 set It felt like someone was lightly touching the "spot" with a finger. So I called it quits for rack pulls. This moring I dug real deep with my fingers and could feel a very tiny hard spot about 3/4" up and a half inch to the left of my belly button. It was slightly sore to the touch. But I had to really dig for it.
My lower back needed to crack today so I used my inversion table and hung upside down for a few minutes. Obviously this created a heavy load on the abdomen once you fully relax. There was no pain when I did that. Then I did a couple upside down sit ups before getting up and there was no pain then either.

Whatever, just saying. Still going to get it checked. :biggrin:
 
Deadlifted yesterday...everything hurts today.
 
b fold the truth said:
Deadlifted yesterday...everything hurts today.
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I went up 50 lbs when I did this too. I noticed for a week my mid section was sore. obliques all the way to my waist, everything. I think I had some major strain action going on. Wont be using a belt anymore. Still gonna let the doc feel it next week.
 
I would be using a belt all the time right now if you are not sure. One of the guys i train with has a few hernias right now and has to use a belt for pretty much everything do it keeps pressure there and doesnt make them worse.
 
Big_BK said:
I would be using a belt all the time right now if you are not sure. One of the guys i train with has a few hernias right now and has to use a belt for pretty much everything do it keeps pressure there and doesnt make them worse.
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Hmm.......From talking to alot of you guys I was getting the impression that raw was "healthier" if you will. I was thinking that the forceful pushing against the belt could be harmful to that area??? no?
When I to try rack pulls again thursday im gonna go slow and easy. If I dont have any issues that day or the next day then on saturday I will try light deads. Like a couple sets of 135 to warm up then a couple "work" sets of 225 for real high reps and that will be it. So I can see how I feel that day and the next couple.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
I went up 50 lbs when I did this too. I noticed for a week my mid section was sore. obliques all the way to my waist, everything. I think I had some major strain action going on. Wont be using a belt anymore. Still gonna let the doc feel it next week.
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My entire core and ribs have been getting sore from my box squatting and deadlift sessions for a few months now. I've also been going heavier than normal and wearing briefs and belt (loose, both). From wearing the loose briefs I have to wear the belt to hold them up...lol

Almost every week I am doing reps on the box squat with near the 700 lb range (or above) and deadlifting in the same range. I've also been doing my best not to add my belt till my last super hard set. I've trained for YEARS without any gear.
 
Yea but were talking about trying to protect a possible hernia. I don't know how to say it any other way then get the damn thing looked at and don't lift till you do lol. Lifting 3 extra times and tearing the thing bigger is alot worse then losing 3 days of lifting and having a smaller hernia which will heal alot faster and in the long run have you back in the gym quicker. Be smart man i know its hard ive done stupid shit before but you really gotta think sometimes if that extra lift is worth what it might do in the long run.
 
Big_BK said:
Yea but were talking about trying to protect a possible hernia. I don't know how to say it any other way then get the damn thing looked at and don't lift till you do lol. Lifting 3 extra times and tearing the thing bigger is alot worse then losing 3 days of lifting and having a smaller hernia which will heal alot faster and in the long run have you back in the gym quicker. Be smart man i know its hard ive done stupid shit before but you really gotta think sometimes if that extra lift is worth what it might do in the long run.
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Taking 1 week off and getting it checked out now is MUCH better than having surgery and taking weeks upon weeks off...forced.
 
I'm on day 7 off. Taking 10 days off. Going to the doctor in the morning. From doing some reading it seems like it might be a hernia related to my surgical incisions in my abdomen. But its a tough call.
I did do rack pulls one more time last thursday and it felt great through every rep of every set. Wore a belt too. next day it was sore but nothing remotley major. Day after it was less sore. But that "less" sore has been there now since last saturday. Sweet:mad:
Not that it couldnt be a tear either but who knows. Regardless of the docs diagnosis I will be back this monday in the gym. The only things that affect the area are rack pulls or deads(cant squat yet still). So I will have to do volume training for back I guess.
Last tuesday I had a VERY heavy chest day which did not affect it at all.
 
Well as I said, I had a scheduled appt. That was this morning(fri). It had been very slightly sore all week. I was also in the middle of a week off. Well....night before doc visit....I was hammering the shit out of the wife....stood up afterwards and it wasnt good. That little peanut sized spot is now about 5-6 times the size it was and it hurts like a fucker.
So what is it???? Its an incisional hernia. The spot where the internal incision is where I had my appendectomy tore. Its not torn all the way through with intestine sticking through like a "normal" hernia. Which is very good. So I get a CT on monday and then schedule getting it fixed. They will just sew it up and then sew the mesh stuff over it.
Even though I'm not .....I am going to tell them I am training to be a competitive power lifter so they sew the shit out of it and use the heaviest mesh they have.

The kicker is... the tear came from sex both times. I weakened the area with deads the first time. Then sex gave me the little tear, or peanut sized lump. Then sex again, made it alot worse. I guess there will be lots of cowboy in my future for the time being.
 
youre going to have to be exceptionally careful after the surgery or that shit is ripping again, extra stitches or not. the recovery is tough. dont rush back at all. my uncle tore his wide open 6 months after his 1st surgery, looked like an alien head coming out of his stomach. the 2nd surgery was even harder to recover from. be smart.
 
yeah I havnt even thought of a plan of attack for recovery yet. Obviously if the doc says wait "this long" to lift "this much" I'm going to have to do it.
I'm going back to the gym wednesday after my CT (tues). Pretty much keeping it to light bi's and tris. Just press downs and machine curls. Very lightback with just pulldowns and likely just machine flys for chest. Very light weights all around with reps in the 25 range.
After the initial 8 weeks post op that I suspect I wont be able to lift I know its gonna suck ass once I can get back. I'm sure at that point most things will be fine though. The big one is easing very slowly back into deadlifts and rack pulls. Hopefully I will be ready to squat by then too. I definatley dont want to blow it out again.
Pisses me off too...It tore at the weak spot. If I hadnt had the incision there I doubt Any of this would have ever happened.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
Pisses me off too...It tore at the weak spot. If I hadnt had the incision there I doubt Any of this would have ever happened.
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yea, that is the part that really sucks. you sound like you have a good idea and obviously know your body. good luck on a speedy recovery.
 
So check this shit out.......Today,(the day before my CT) I start moving. Moved all garage stuff. 2 big 3 section roll-aways, lots of power tools, yard equipment/machines, huge stand up air compressor ect....
All day i do this. Wear my belt for every single thing I touched even light stuff. Had NO issues all day right... about 5:00pm as i'm getting ready to relax I decide to do the thing I do to see how sore I am in the abdomen. I put two fingers from each hand right in below my sternum and press deep and run them down slowly towards my belly button. Usually half way I can start to feel the painful spot from my pressure. But this time there is zero pain! Im like wtf? I do it again really hard and zero pain. I feel deep into the area where I had made it worse and the big eyeball type lump was and its fucking gone!? Feeling real deep all i can find is the origional pea sized bump. Even that doesnt hurt when pressed on??
Regardless I still have to get up 7 hours and drink that radio active snot and go get my CT. Will be interesting to see wtf happens now. :confused:
 
ok so check it out. Today. finally a few minutes ago my doc calls me. A week after my CT. The scan is totally negative. No signs of any sort of tear, hernia or anything. all internal organs are normal, everything is A-ok. Allthough I am glad to hear that i still have to say...WTF!!??
There is still a tiny spot that is sore under the skin. I spent all last weekend moving. Real heavy shit too. Wore my belt the whole time and had no issues.
My wife rolled up the waterbed matress and apparently there was still some residual water in it cause it weighed around 400 lbs!! the two dudes helping us and my wife couldnt pick it up. So I squatted all the way down and had them drape it over my shoulders. Picked it up and carried it up stairs and up a ramp onto the truck. Then later back off again. Still no issues.
I have been out of the gym for 3 weeks and I'm done with this shit. I'm going back tomorrow. I feel so weak and shriveled its not even humerous.
Yes I am going to be careful. I'm not going to try deads or squats for a while.
 
Glad to hear its nothing bad bro. Just take it easy and use that belt for a while!
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
will definatley be using a belt. It kinda bugs me though cause I obviously did something there? But if it cant be seen on a CT??
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i wonder if an mri was the better test here. if you feel it, something has happened. im surprised a ct was used. were you given a reason why an mri wasnt chosen? you have insurance? call your doc, tell him the pain is still there/you feel it, and want a more thorough exam. i had osteitis pubis (tendoninitis of the pubic symphasis - the tendon that attachs the left and right pelvic quadrants about 2 inches above the penis). it took 4 doctors to finally find it and treat it. took over a year to heal. i wouldnt stop doctor shopping till i got to the bottom of the pain, which affected nearly every step i would take. shooting pains into my balls and stomach. i would keep looking for the cause if i were you. an mri might show a deep, thin tear that hasnt popped yet.
 
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