Anyone ever tried Peyote or Mescaline?

[jh1]

a lot of people would never smoke pot. for lots of reasons.

but they would have a beer.

to me, that makes NO sense, but because one is commercialized and pushed on the public, and the other is illegal and frowned upon by some... it's what people believe to be the right order of things.

meanwhile, beer makes me lethargic, bloated, and lots of other things. weed calms me, i sleep great, and i wake up fine.

that's propaganda, for sure.

Agreed that the natural 'dangers' and natual consequences are not equal to the drug - in terms of pot / alcohol.

However there are real life consequences for buying, posessing, smoking pot - like it or not. Whereas, alcohol is a legal drug - like it or not.

Weed, for me, produces no enjoyable effects.

 

[Lestat]

Stiletto's story explained the risk. I don't have to try a drug for myself to know that I don't wish to experience that kind of thing. These types of agents were offered me and I never did them for fear of the situations that I mentioned. I always feared a *bad trip* and what the end result MIGHT be. That MIGHT was enough for me to pass.

I am not saying you are bad for doing such drugs... unless you choose to drive a car while under their influence.

I am saying that in MY OPINION (which FOR ME is solid one) I don't think that it is a GOOD IDEA to use such an agent. I also don't think that it is a good idea to jump over a shitload of busses with a motorcycle but that didn't stop Evil Knievel.... did it?

Do whatever you wish.... JUST DONT DRIVE A CAR.

I always feared a bad trip too, that is why I haven't tried anything yet.

But you again references Stiletto's story. People think insane things WITHOUT drugs, they kill people, they harm themselves, based on beliefs and delusions that have NOTHING to do with drugs.

 

[jh1]

People think insane things WITHOUT drugs, they kill people, they harm themselves, based on beliefs and delusions that have NOTHING to do with drugs.

How is that a justification for drugs?


That's like saying: "I am gonna bring the toaster in the bathtub with me tonight. Sure there is undeniable risk to my life, but people die all the time without bringing toasters into the bathtub."

It's like you are trying to disconnect the serious risk inherint to the drug use by pointing out that risks exists elsewhere without drug use - as if that is a logical train of thought.

You're smarter than that. WTF?

 

[stilleto]

btw, i'm a total hypocrite when it comes to this because i would kill my kids if they did drugs, yet I did them.

i don't anymore, and wouldn't.

except pot.
but that's different.

 

[RaoulDuke..]

"If there is one quick truism about psychedelic drugs, it is that anyone who tries to write about them without firsthand experience is a fool and a fraud." --hunter thompson

from what i've read on this thread, you seem to have a good mindset for psychadelics. my suggestion would be to start with mushrooms, due to the shorter duration of the trip. keep your positive mindset and you'll have some incredible life experiences. with moderation being key, psychadelics can have a profound impact that you won't be able to understand until you take the plunge.

 

[Lestat]

How is that a justification for drugs?


That's like saying: "I am gonna bring the toaster in the bathtub with me tonight. Sure there is undeniable risk to my life, but people die all the time without bringing toasters into the bathtub."

It's like you are trying to disconnect the serious risk inherint to the drug use by pointing out that risks exists elsewhere without drug use - as if that is a logical train of thought.

You're smarter than that. WTF?

the point is, "safe" is subjective. Certain drugs are pretty safe in general, yet get a negative stigma for other reasons, or simply false reasons. I like to point out that there are other common behaviors that carry risk and we voluntarily choose to participate or not. Some of what we call "drugs" should be moved to that, similiar to how we can choose to have a beer or not.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I always feared a bad trip too, that is why I haven't tried anything yet.

But you again references Stiletto's story. People think insane things WITHOUT drugs, they kill people, they harm themselves, based on beliefs and delusions that have NOTHING to do with drugs.

True, but do YOU fall into that category? I think not. So why bring it up?

 

[binö]

great thread everyone! really took off.

Still, I'd like to hear from people who have tried Peyote or Mescaline.

bitch what am i invisible?
i've done mescaline, would do it again if i could locate.
i would reccoment you try it, you seem to be of sound mind and soul.

 

[Lestat]

bitch what am i invisible?
i've done mescaline, would do it again if i could locate.
i would reccoment you try it, you seem to be of sound mind and soul.

thanks bro, your insights are always helpful....

 

[binö]

thanks bro, your insights are always helpful....

don't do it around people you don't know or in public settings.
you don't want to deal with people or social stress.
anixety levels are gonna be high, ride it out.
you won't become addicted, you won't attempt to fly, you won't want to do it again for some time.