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Anyone ever tried Peyote or Mescaline?

btw, my experiment with a small amount of dxm did not go well at all.

something backfired.
 
The feeling of being so out of touch with reality that I would actually think that I could fly is enough for me to stay the fuck away....

just my .02
 
BIKINIMOM said:
The feeling of being so out of touch with reality that I would actually think that I could fly is enough for me to stay the fuck away....

just my .02
I don't understand what you mean by "out of touch with reality" you seem to think that whatever state of mind you are in NOW is the REAL one that is NORMAL, i disagree, you are experiencing reality when you do drugs, the drugs change HOW you experience it, but that doesn't make it any more or less real does it? You and I experience life differently, maybe only subtley, but still our experiences are equally as valid and real.
 
Lestat said:
I don't understand what you mean by "out of touch with reality" you seem to think that whatever state of mind you are in NOW is the REAL one that is NORMAL, i disagree, you are experiencing reality when you do drugs, the drugs change HOW you experience it, but that doesn't make it any more or less real does it? You and I experience life differently, maybe only subtley, but still our experiences are equally as valid and real.
I agree :)
 
Lestat said:
I don't understand what you mean by "out of touch with reality" you seem to think that whatever state of mind you are in NOW is the REAL one that is NORMAL, i disagree, you are experiencing reality when you do drugs, the drugs change HOW you experience it, but that doesn't make it any more or less real does it? You and I experience life differently, maybe only subtley, but still our experiences are equally as valid and real.

this was a huge phylosophy of my father, who strongly believed in alternate levels of conciousness and how that effected ones creativity and thought process.
he actually lectured about it for a while, but cleaned it up to NOT include drugs. :)
 
stilleto said:
this was a huge phylosophy of my father, who strongly believed in alternate levels of conciousness and how that effected ones creativity and thought process.
he actually lectured about it for a while, but cleaned it up to NOT include drugs. :)
there are many ways to acheive altered states of consciousness, for me, I look at long term effects, I try to stay away from things that have a large long term cost associated with them.

traditionally, religous and political leaders do NOT like people altering their consciousness, because they lose more control that way. Many religions push altered states of consciousness, but only in very specific and controlled ways, some religions use drugs, others use things like meditation and prayer.
 
Lestat said:
I don't understand what you mean by "out of touch with reality" you seem to think that whatever state of mind you are in NOW is the REAL one that is NORMAL, i disagree, you are experiencing reality when you do drugs, the drugs change HOW you experience it, but that doesn't make it any more or less real does it? You and I experience life differently, maybe only subtley, but still our experiences are equally as valid and real.


wow, you couldn't of said it any better.
 
Lestat said:
there are many ways to acheive altered states of consciousness, for me, I look at long term effects, I try to stay away from things that have a large long term cost associated with them.

traditionally, religous and political leaders do NOT like people altering their consciousness, because they lose more control that way. Many religions push altered states of consciousness, but only in very specific and controlled ways, some religions use drugs, others use things like meditation and prayer.

i just realized that you're in the same state that he was in- i wonder if you ever read any of his articles or seminars.

oh well. doesn't matter.
i agree with you.

my experience with mescaline was still good, despite the dangerous situation I got into- the dumb move was doing it while in college in manhattan. I think i was only 16- i didn't think enough in advance to know it wasn't safe to take.
Now that i'm older and have kids, i care about my life and theirs too much to do anything other than smoking some weed once in a while when i'm HOME.
 
Lestat said:
I don't understand what you mean by "out of touch with reality" you seem to think that whatever state of mind you are in NOW is the REAL one that is NORMAL, i disagree, you are experiencing reality when you do drugs, the drugs change HOW you experience it, but that doesn't make it any more or less real does it? You and I experience life differently, maybe only subtley, but still our experiences are equally as valid and real.



LOL... so Stilleto's experience of thinking she could fly and that Tom Petty was singing to her were 'reality' - just simply her own reality and how she experienced it?

Nigga please. It was a delusion brought on by the drugs.
 
jh1 said:
LOL... so Stilleto's experience of thinking she could fly and that Tom Petty was singing to her were 'reality' - just simply her own reality and how she experienced it?

Nigga please. It was a dillusion brought on by the drugs.

at the time, i thought it WAS reality.
 
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