Anyone cut on a medium-high carb diet?

[JG1]

I decided to drop the low carb, high protein, high fat diet. I was getting these insane cravings that lead me to binge on many occasions. I was able to follow a diet like that for months, but towards then end the craving just became too powerful.

What I've been doing now is a 45/45/10 macro split. Basicaly taking in between 250-275g carbs/day, 250g protein/day, and around 30-35g fat/day. I'm dividing the carbs up between 5 meals, and taking 200mg r-ALA and 1mg biotin with each meal. The carbs are very low glycemic...oat bran, brown rice, pumpernickel bread...except for PW which is dextrose.

Only fats I'm getting is from the oat bran (12g/day), bread (8g) and fish oil caps....getting 6g DHA/EPA daily from the fish oil.

Keeping calories at about BW x 12. I know the low carb approack works very well for me, but I guess there's more then one way to skin a cat so I'm trying this approach....it's certainly an easier diet to follow.

 

[nclifter6feet6]

sounds like a good plan. i hope you plan on doing about an hours worth of cardio everyday. whatever you can handle running, jogging or alternating between running and sprinting on days.


you have to find the NET calorie range that allows you to drop fat as fast as you like it to come off. i know for me i must NET about 1200 calories to drop fat fast from day to day. so i usually end up eating about 1300-1500 and creat my deficit with cardio everyday.

if i were you i would have most of my carbs come from whole fruits because they have tons of fiber and kill the sweet craving. that would mean about 14 peices of fruit or so to equal your calorie range. and its very tastey too eating like that.

in my opinion you could easily stand to drop about 100 grams off of your protien intake

 

[JG1]

I'm gettting a ton of fiber from the oatbran, and bread...bout 40g fiber daily. I'm never really hungry anymore, unlike the low carb diet.

I have to keep my calories at about the 2400 range...any lower and I start shrinking. I started doing 30 minutes cardio daily as well.

 

[JG1]

BTW, the protein total for the day is including everything I eat..not just animal protein. I get about 50g protein from the oat bran, bread, and brown rice....so about 200g or so of the protein I'm eating is complete.

Also, I didn't include the fiber in the total carb count for the day.

 

[Babyfaced Assassin]

i'd say your fats are way too low to be honest.
I know guys that eat a moderate amount of fat protein and a lot of carbs (200+g) and are ripped but they do tonnes of cardio

 

[javaguru]

When bulking I go 30/50/20 and when dieting 40/40/20 seems to work very well. I can't handle ketogenic diets, my brain just refuses to function on anything under 120g CHO per day.

 

[MS]

That sounds like the exact diet that many of us old timers got really lean with. Just because it's old-fashioned doesn't mean it doesn't work anymore. As long as your cals are below your total daily needs and you wieght train, you'l lose the fat. I have never, NEVER worked with a competitor on this type of diet who didn't look great at the end of it AS LONG AS THEY STUCK WITH THE DIET. But sticking with any submaintenance diet is the hardest part of getting ultra lean. You have to choose a diet that YOU can stick with.

BTW, the last National BB comp I was at, I went to the post comp pig-out and actually asked all of the top placing competitors what type of diet they used. Not a single one of these (7) very lean and muscular athletes used a low carb or keto diet. They ranged from 45:45:10 (P:C:F) to 50:30:20. Maybe they did a ton of cardio, I dunno (I know I do a lot of cardio in my last few pre-competition weeks), or maybe it was just the drugs (but I know I don't do a lot of drugs), for whatever reason, it's gotta make you wonder why so many amatuer competitors are jumping on the low carb band wagon?

As another side note about the myths surrounding BB diets, the guy that got 'best of show' at above mentioned competition admitted that he drank 2 liters of skim milk every day except for his last week (when he's not dieting he drinks 2 liters of whole milk per day). But he is infamous for taking insane amounts of drugs as well..........

 

[Vageta]

MS pretty much hit the nail on the head. I'm not really sure where all this low carb fanfare came from but people were getting lean long before this type of diet became popular again. I've tried many diets throughout the years and the one thing I've realized is this. They all worked about the same as far as fat loss is concerned, so choose the one that is easiest for you to follow. There is no reason you can't burn fat eating as much as 50% carbs in your diet, in fact a 50/25/25 is a legitimate ratio so long as your don't cut your calories too low.

Why don't you just attempt this diet for yourself. You can listen to us all day long but the only way you'll ever know is to just do it. When you start losing fat on this diet then you'll realize the idiots telling you that you MUST low carb are just spouting steam.

 

[nclifter6feet6]

it's gotta make you wonder why so many amatuer competitors are jumping on the low carb band wagon?

As another side note about the myths surrounding BB diets, the guy that got 'best of show' at above mentioned competition admitted that he drank 2 liters of skim milk every day except for his last week (when he's not dieting he drinks 2 liters of whole milk per day). But he is infamous for taking insane amounts of drugs as well..........

LOL sounds like that guy is using the nclifter6feet6 plan of a gallon of milk a day

 

[nclifter6feet6]

MS pretty much hit the nail on the head. I'm not really sure where all this low carb fanfare came from but people were getting lean long before this type of diet became popular again. I've tried many diets throughout the years and the one thing I've realized is this. They all worked about the same as far as fat loss is concerned, so choose the one that is easiest for you to follow. There is no reason you can't burn fat eating as much as 50% carbs in your diet, in fact a 50/25/25 is a legitimate ratio so long as your don't cut your calories too low.

Why don't you just attempt this diet for yourself. You can listen to us all day long but the only way you'll ever know is to just do it. When you start losing fat on this diet then you'll realize the idiots telling you that you MUST low carb are just spouting steam.

i agree. i wish i never heard the term low carb. i think ive gotten so much bs info that i was afraid of carbs for so long, when actually having plenty of carbs in the diet is key

sometimes a little too much info is a bad thing

 

[JG1]

I'm absolutely loving this diet!

I have no more cravings that lead me to binge. My energy level is great...pants are getting looser, stomach feels tighter, face is deflating.

I wish I would have eaten like this months ago. Everyday is like a carb-up day, and I'm loosing weight...it's great!!!

 

[JG1]

BTW,

I'm sure the 200mg r-ALA and 1mg biotin I'm taking with each meal is helping tremendously.

 

[CB38AC]

bumo this idea got me interested

 

[MiniColemans]

I've been doing something similar to this for the last couple weeks before I plan to go back to a CKD.

the key is the ALA I believe...I take standard ALA, about 100mg per 10g of carbs.
I eat about 250-300grams of carbs a day and I started losing again