Anybody have experience with Clinical Depression?

[bottleneckblooz]

I just found out my GF suffers from this. She's going through a bout of it right now. I don't have any experience with this so I'm not sure what to do, or how to support her. I'm concerned about her being put on anti depressant drugs because those can have some bad side effects. I'm wondering if anyone has dealt with this before and knows of any research showing natural supplementation to help with this?

Thanks.

 

[smt]

I just found out my GF suffers from this. She's going through a bout of it right now. I don't have any experience with this so I'm not sure what to do, or how to support her. I'm concerned about her being put on anti depressant drugs because those can have some bad side effects. I'm wondering if anyone has dealt with this before and knows of any research showing natural supplementation to help with this?

Thanks.

I can give you some info from a database that I have. Suggested supplements etc. GOOD material. PM me a phone and/or fax number and I'll send it to you. I'm sending you PM also.

 

[vixensghost]

I'm sorry about your G/F.

I wish I had an answer for you, but I do not.

 

[nefertiti]

I just found out my GF suffers from this. She's going through a bout of it right now. I don't have any experience with this so I'm not sure what to do, or how to support her. I'm concerned about her being put on anti depressant drugs because those can have some bad side effects. I'm wondering if anyone has dealt with this before and knows of any research showing natural supplementation to help with this?

Thanks.

Do not discourage her from trying anti depressants. If she wants to try it and see how it works, support her. They may not be the answer for her, but that's a choice she gets to make on her own.

 

[musclemom]

Do not discourage her from trying anti depressants. If she wants to try it and see how it works, support her. They may not be the answer for her, but that's a choice she gets to make on her own.

^^^ What she said.

What's been proven to work best is medication in conjunction with face to face therapy. I'm not wild about GPs/MDs treating depression without a therapist/psychiatrist overseeing the therapy.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I just found out my GF suffers from this. She's going through a bout of it right now. I don't have any experience with this so I'm not sure what to do, or how to support her. I'm concerned about her being put on anti depressant drugs because those can have some bad side effects. I'm wondering if anyone has dealt with this before and knows of any research showing natural supplementation to help with this?

Thanks.

all girls are "clinically depressed"

or should i say "depressed at their convenience"

i say dump her.

we all have our problems but when we let it interfere with other people's lives thats where sadness turns to selfishness. crys for attention. bullshit. issues. dont let her get away with that shit.

chances are shes cheating on you, feels guilty, and is just taking that guilt out on you. she probably crys at night and says "omigod your such a good guy, so good, you put up with me".

i was watching boodnocks on cartoonnetwork last night. she was totally flirting with usher. when her hubby said "dont u think that was a little inapropriate" she flipped out called him insecure, and he told her how she was acting like a 12 year old groupie. she made him stop the car, got out, bought her kid a bunch of usher t-shirts, and split with hubby.

then he went to the pimp agency, and practiced "smackin a bitch".

just tll her. "bitch cut that shit out right now". if she gives you lip, give her the back of yourhand.

 

[nefertiti]

all girls are "clinically depressed"

or should i say "depressed at their convenience"

i say dump her.

we all have our problems but when we let it interfere with other people's lives thats where sadness turns to selfishness. crys for attention. bullshit. issues. dont let her get away with that shit.

chances are shes cheating on you, feels guilty, and is just taking that guilt out on you. she probably crys at night and says "omigod your such a good guy, so good, you put up with me".

i was watching boodnocks on cartoonnetwork last night. she was totally flirting with usher. when her hubby said "dont u think that was a little inapropriate" she flipped out called him insecure, and he told her how she was acting like a 12 year old groupie. she made him stop the car, got out, bought her kid a bunch of usher t-shirts, and split with hubby.

then he went to the pimp agency, and practiced "smackin a bitch".

just tll her. "bitch cut that shit out right now". if she gives you lip, give her the back of yourhand.

subz, come on, you're better than this.

 

[Sub-Zero]

subz, come on, you're better than this.

fair enough.

i should add, that on the off chance it is a chemical imbalance (which it probably isnt, otherwise when you "found out", you would have also found out what meds/therapy/steps she had been taking to help with it), be very supportive, because it is a disease.

but lets be real here.

nobody "develops" depression, unless there is a chemical imbalance, or a seriously traumatizing event, such as school starting, a new job, or a relative dying.

none of which are excuses to take it out on others, and use your sig-other as a crutch.

neffie, if a guy was crying to you all day about how all the sudden hes sad and doesnt know why, and started being rude and cruel to you and expected you to take it and "be supportive". youd leave him in a heart beat.

why such a double standard?

 

[biteme]

Don't let her take you down with her.

 

[Sub-Zero]

all jokes and exagerations aside...now for the serious response:

im sorry your gf is having problems. be a classy gentlemen (as you should always be in your interactions with EVERYONE- but most people, men and women, always seem to forget).

but be this classy, carying gentlemen, without letting it wear on you! depression and negativity is a disease, and a very contagious one. it will be very easy to let her bring you down. that will just make both of you sad instead of bring her out of it.

its not about sympathy. its about being a strong, and individualized "man", while still letting her know you care.

its a very tricky balancing act, and depending on how close you are with her, may not be doable, or even worth it.

remember, at the end of the day, you have yourself, and your perception of reality. stay strong, stay happy, and most of all, remember it is not your FAULT, nor your RESPONSABILITY, to deal with anything that you dont want to deal with. you are both adults.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Don't let her take you down with her.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

x100000000000


be a strong man, a firm, content man. dont let her abuse/unhappyness dicate your life or feelings or selfesteem

 

[nefertiti]

neffie, if a guy was crying to you all day about how all the sudden hes sad and doesnt know why, and started being rude and cruel to you and expected you to take it and "be supportive". youd leave him in a heart beat.

why such a double standard?

Subz -

I don't support on any side someone using any mental health thing as an excuse to treat people badly. No double standard. but he said nothing about her behavior. If she's acting like that, then I agree with you, absolutely. But he didn't, and also didn't even say she recently "developed it," he said he just learned that she suffers from it and she's going through a tough patch. Which could just mean that's she's been really sad lately, having a hard time getting motivated, etc. I don't by any means think anyone should take on the burden of being someone's emotional crutch or sponge or whatever. You made a bunch of assumptions based on very limited information, which is why I said you're better than that.

 

[nefertiti]

all jokes and exagerations aside...now for the serious response:

im sorry your gf is having problems. be a classy gentlemen (as you should always be in your interactions with EVERYONE- but most people, men and women, always seem to forget).

but be this classy, carying gentlemen, without letting it wear on you! depression and negativity is a disease, and a very contagious one. it will be very easy to let her bring you down. that will just make both of you sad instead of bring her out of it.

its not about sympathy. its about being a strong, and individualized "man", while still letting her know you care.

its a very tricky balancing act, and depending on how close you are with her, may not be doable, or even worth it.

remember, at the end of the day, you have yourself, and your perception of reality. stay strong, stay happy, and most of all, remember it is not your FAULT, nor your RESPONSABILITY, to deal with anything that you dont want to deal with. you are both adults.

This is the subz that became a board favorite for me. Well said.

 

[Raptorex]

1) she should be on meds (they will mess with the dosage for a while so don't expect miracles)

2) behavioural therapy should be started

3) exercise and physical activity needs to be maintained (otherwise she could become agoraphobic)

No worries, the prevalence of "clinical" depression - which is simply another word for depression is very high and she can function just as anyone else.

 

[all the whey]

1) she should be on meds (they will mess with the dosage for a while so don't expect miracles)

2) behavioural therapy should be started

3) exercise and physical activity needs to be maintained (otherwise she could become agoraphobic)

No worries, the prevalence of "clinical" depression - which is simply another word for depression is very high and she can function just as anyone else.

4) sit infront of your mom's fireplace

 

[all the whey]

all girls are "clinically depressed"

or should i say "depressed at their convenience"

i say dump her.

we all have our problems but when we let it interfere with other people's lives thats where sadness turns to selfishness. crys for attention. bullshit. issues. dont let her get away with that shit.

chances are shes cheating on you, feels guilty, and is just taking that guilt out on you. she probably crys at night and says "omigod your such a good guy, so good, you put up with me".

i was watching boodnocks on cartoonnetwork last night. she was totally flirting with usher. when her hubby said "dont u think that was a little inapropriate" she flipped out called him insecure, and he told her how she was acting like a 12 year old groupie. she made him stop the car, got out, bought her kid a bunch of usher t-shirts, and split with hubby.

then he went to the pimp agency, and practiced "smackin a bitch".

just tll her. "bitch cut that shit out right now". if she gives you lip, give her the back of yourhand.

This is the subz that became a board favorite for me. Well said.

 

[Raptorex]

4) sit infront of your mom's fireplace

very very peaceful I agree, grab a nice book - the kitty and your good to go

 

[all the whey]

very very peaceful I agree, grab a nice book - the kitty and your good to go

 

[Burning_Inside]

well side effects of anti d's = not as bad as side effects without anti d's which = HER CUTTING YOUR BALLS OFF AND EATING THEM.

 

[samoth]

but lets be real here.

nobody "develops" depression, unless there is a chemical imbalance, or a seriously traumatizing event, such as school starting, a new job, or a relative dying.

This is a very complex area we don't know much about. Hence why I usually stay out of such topics.

The human organism changes as it gets older. You know this. It's why people use testosterone and growth. What makes you think everything else in the body stays the same?

 

[Sub-Zero]

Subz -

I don't support on any side someone using any mental health thing as an excuse to treat people badly. No double standard. but he said nothing about her behavior. If she's acting like that, then I agree with you, absolutely. But he didn't, and also didn't even say she recently "developed it," he said he just learned that she suffers from it and she's going through a tough patch. Which could just mean that's she's been really sad lately, having a hard time getting motivated, etc. I don't by any means think anyone should take on the burden of being someone's emotional crutch or sponge or whatever. You made a bunch of assumptions based on very limited information, which is why I said you're better than that.

this is a thread for him, not for her. alot of "goodguys" get sucked into a pattern of becoming utterly pussified because of their sig-other's "sadness problems".

typical pattern, everythings good, guy becomes too sensitive/not exciting enough/caters to her too much, shes sad, doesnt know why, guy falls for it, enables the constant crying and bullshit, and then hes weak, not good enough, she leeaves for someone more exciting/manly.

human nature.

the man needs to be strong no ifs ands or buts.

as a woman you can tell him from your perspective what you think she needs from him, and the men can tell him as a man what we think he needs to keep in mind so he doesnt get sucked in.

 

[Sub-Zero]

1) she should be on meds (they will mess with the dosage for a while so don't expect miracles)

2) behavioural therapy should be started

3) exercise and physical activity needs to be maintained (otherwise she could become agoraphobic)

No worries, the prevalence of "clinical" depression - which is simply another word for depression is very high and she can function just as anyone else.

i agree with number 3 alot more than i woulda ever though. same shit happend to me to an extent

 

[Sub-Zero]

This is a very complex area we don't know much about. Hence why I usually stay out of such topics.

The human organism changes as it gets older. You know this. It's why people use testosterone and growth. What makes you think everything else in the body stays the same?

all i meant by that, is that everyone has their issues. its up to them to let it be a debilitating "depressive" disease, or to use brain power and reasoning and INTELLIGENCE, to overcome it.


for example:
i get sad, iv been depressed, and iv been snappy and crabby and been more rude to people than i should have because of it. and thats MY fault. its my head, my emotions, my life. nobody else should have to suffer or deal with my issues. thats just fuckin selfish.

 

[nefertiti]

as a woman you can tell him from your perspective what you think she needs from him, and the men can tell him as a man what we think he needs to keep in mind so he doesnt get sucked in.

Damned if I know what she needs...I just know what she doesn't need...someone telling her not to take anti depressants for whatever reason. I dated someone like that for a while, and I even tried to do things his way because he had me half convinced that they were the product of the devil. Worst thing I ever did to myself. He probably could have stood to be on something, himself, honestly.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Damned if I know what she needs...I just know what she doesn't need...someone telling her not to take anti depressants for whatever reason. I dated someone like that for a while, and I even tried to do things his way because he had me half convinced that they were the product of the devil. Worst thing I ever did to myself. He probably could have stood to be on something, himself, honestly.

both men and women need to always do for themselves first. being too giving and subservient to a partner is a weakness and never a benifit, something it seems everyone at some point or another has fallen victim to, and lost themselves alogn the way.

 

[Spartacus]

I can help
I've tried just about every anti-depressant out there
I take wellbutrin now and it works well w/o sides

 

[Burning_Inside]

I can help
I've tried just about every anti-depressant out there
I take wellbutrin now and it works well w/o sides

WELBUTRIN DOES ABSOLUTE SHIT FOR ME.

which i dont understand since i understand how it works with the dopamine thing.

maybe i have no more dopamine to give.

im all out of dope..im so sad without you...i knew i was right..believing its useless...

i feel better on bronkaid and caffeine. like i can punch people in the face while talking about gardening.

 

[nefertiti]

both men and women need to always do for themselves first. being too giving and subservient to a partner is a weakness and never a benifit, something it seems everyone at some point or another has fallen victim to, and lost themselves alogn the way.

I'm not sure it was a weakness on my part, but bad judgement? Yeah.


I've never seen being too giving or too willing to make sacrifice as a weakness. I see taking advantage of the person willing to do that for you as the weakness. I'm never going to let some guy make me a cynic, no matter how many times it burns me.

 

[bottleneckblooz]

all girls are "clinically depressed"

or should i say "depressed at their convenience"

i say dump her.

we all have our problems but when we let it interfere with other people's lives thats where sadness turns to selfishness. crys for attention. bullshit. issues. dont let her get away with that shit.

chances are shes cheating on you, feels guilty, and is just taking that guilt out on you. she probably crys at night and says "omigod your such a good guy, so good, you put up with me".

i was watching boodnocks on cartoonnetwork last night. she was totally flirting with usher. when her hubby said "dont u think that was a little inapropriate" she flipped out called him insecure, and he told her how she was acting like a 12 year old groupie. she made him stop the car, got out, bought her kid a bunch of usher t-shirts, and split with hubby.

then he went to the pimp agency, and practiced "smackin a bitch".

just tll her. "bitch cut that shit out right now". if she gives you lip, give her the back of yourhand.

It's not like that with her. She's been going through a lot of stress in the last year and a half. She's in the middle of a divorce from an abusive husband who she is also hiding from and is terrified he'll find out where she lives. She's moved 3 times in the last year. Moved to a new city, new job..etc. She went to the hospital today and spoke to a bunch of docs and shrinks. They ordered her to take time off work. ( a doctor told her to take time off a year ago and she didn't.) Not only all of that, but the docs think she is going through early menopause, so her hormones are all screwed up. Her mother and sister both went through menopause in their mid to late thirties. She seemed happy and relieved today after speaking with the doctors, so I'm glad to see that.

 

[Sub-Zero]

It's not like that with her. She's been going through a lot of stress in the last year and a half. She's in the middle of a divorce from an abusive husband who she is also hiding from and is terrified he'll find out where she lives. She's moved 3 times in the last year. Moved to a new city, new job..etc. She went to the hospital today and spoke to a bunch of docs and shrinks. They ordered her to take time off work. ( a doctor told her to take time off a year ago and she didn't.) Not only all of that, but the docs think she is going through early menopause, so her hormones are all screwed up. Her mother and sister both went through menopause in their mid to late thirties. She seemed happy and relieved today after speaking with the doctors, so I'm glad to see that.

wow.

that is alot to take on.

some other member's breaks got fucked with by some psycho guy.

make sure the crazy husband doesnt end up goin after you...

thats alot of baggage your taking on.

make sure its worth it to you.

best of luck...

 

[bottleneckblooz]

wow.

that is alot to take on.

some other member's breaks got fucked with by some psycho guy.

make sure the crazy husband doesnt end up goin after you...

thats alot of baggage your taking on.

make sure its worth it to you.

best of luck...

lol, I'm not worried about him. from what I hear he's just a coward who only beats on women.

 

[Smurfy]

I just found out my GF suffers from this. She's going through a bout of it right now. I don't have any experience with this so I'm not sure what to do, or how to support her. I'm concerned about her being put on anti depressant drugs because those can have some bad side effects. I'm wondering if anyone has dealt with this before and knows of any research showing natural supplementation to help with this?

Thanks.

does she have a therapist?
if she does suffer from MDD, she would likelt benefit from a course of medication.

 

[Smurfy]

fair enough.

i should add, that on the off chance it is a chemical imbalance (which it probably isnt, otherwise when you "found out", you would have also found out what meds/therapy/steps she had been taking to help with it), be very supportive, because it is a disease.

but lets be real here.

nobody "develops" depression, unless there is a chemical imbalance, or a seriously traumatizing event, such as school starting, a new job, or a relative dying.

none of which are excuses to take it out on others, and use your sig-other as a crutch.

neffie, if a guy was crying to you all day about how all the sudden hes sad and doesnt know why, and started being rude and cruel to you and expected you to take it and "be supportive". youd leave him in a heart beat.

why such a double standard?

sorry but you're not very smart on this subject. you seem very bitter towards anything having to do with the female population. i know you feel betrayed by the 16 yr old girl who cheated on you, but this is a totally different matter. your personal experience does not apply in every situation, so get over yourself.

 

[samoth]

sorry but you're not very smart on this subject. you seem very bitter towards anything having to do with the female population. i know you feel betrayed by the 16 yr old girl who cheated on you, but this is a totally different matter. your personal experience does not apply in every situation, so get over yourself.

Pwned!

C'mon, e-fight! You gonna take that, Subz?

 

[Smurfy]

all jokes and exagerations aside...now for the serious response:

im sorry your gf is having problems. be a classy gentlemen (as you should always be in your interactions with EVERYONE- but most people, men and women, always seem to forget).

but be this classy, carying gentlemen, without letting it wear on you! depression and negativity is a disease, and a very contagious one. it will be very easy to let her bring you down. that will just make both of you sad instead of bring her out of it.

its not about sympathy. its about being a strong, and individualized "man", while still letting her know you care.

its a very tricky balancing act, and depending on how close you are with her, may not be doable, or even worth it.

remember, at the end of the day, you have yourself, and your perception of reality. stay strong, stay happy, and most of all, remember it is not your FAULT, nor your RESPONSABILITY, to deal with anything that you dont want to deal with. you are both adults.

fuck it, you play games so you cant fault anyone (me) for lashing out at you when you post ridiculous responses like the one you posted before this one.

you jerk.

 

[blueta2]

fuck it, you play games so you cant fault anyone (me) for lashing out at you when you post ridiculous responses like the one you posted before this one.

you jerk.

<tug>


;-)

 

[Smurfy]

<tug>


;-)

I'm tingly in all the right spots.

 

[Sub-Zero]

sorry but you're not very smart on this subject. you seem very bitter towards anything having to do with the female population. i know you feel betrayed by the 16 yr old girl who cheated on you, but this is a totally different matter. your personal experience does not apply in every situation, so get over yourself.

edit: taking the high road on this one. congradulations on becoming what you hate

 

[Sub-Zero]

whatever, not worth it, just know you have a new enemy. practice what you preech. youv stooped to a new low. never have i ever personally attacked you smurfy. i thought you were a special and intielligent person but apparently you arnt

 

[all the whey]

whatever, not worth it, just know you have a new enemy. practice what you preech. youv stooped to a new low. never have i ever personally attacked you smurfy. i thought you were a special and intielligent person but apparently you arnt

told ya

 

[Spartacus]

WELBUTRIN DOES ABSOLUTE SHIT FOR ME.

which i dont understand since i understand how it works with the dopamine thing.

maybe i have no more dopamine to give.

im all out of dope..im so sad without you...i knew i was right..believing its useless...

i feel better on bronkaid and caffeine. like i can punch people in the face while talking about gardening.

try meridia the obese drug
it treats all 3 mood neuro-transmitters
serotonin (but not enough to cause sexual sides)
dopamine
and norepinephrine aka noradrenaline

I experienced enhanced orgasms too on meridia
too bad it's about $5 a pill and my insurance wouldn't cover it

I did find a couple of online pharms that had the 15mg pills for about $1-1.5 a pill

 

[ponyfitness]

It's not like that with her. She's been going through a lot of stress in the last year and a half. She's in the middle of a divorce from an abusive husband who she is also hiding from and is terrified he'll find out where she lives. She's moved 3 times in the last year. Moved to a new city, new job..etc. She went to the hospital today and spoke to a bunch of docs and shrinks. They ordered her to take time off work. ( a doctor told her to take time off a year ago and she didn't.) Not only all of that, but the docs think she is going through early menopause, so her hormones are all screwed up. Her mother and sister both went through menopause in their mid to late thirties. She seemed happy and relieved today after speaking with the doctors, so I'm glad to see that.

Holy crap man. No offense but I would run for the hills asap. You're a better man than me but that is just way too much baggage to get involved with. She had better be hot.

 

[stosstruppe]

I'm wondering if anyone has dealt with this before and knows of any research showing natural supplementation to help with this?

Thanks.

Man fat is an excellent natural supplement for when your lady decides to be "depressed at her convenience". Best administered orally or as a suppository 2-3 times a day.

 

[Smurfy]

whatever, not worth it, just know you have a new enemy. practice what you preech. youv stooped to a new low. never have i ever personally attacked you smurfy. i thought you were a special and intielligent person but apparently you arnt

irony at its best

 

[Raptorex]

LOL @ anyone on this thread thinking that the boyfriend can cure her...

I bet Biology 101 was a good class for you

 

[Cutiebaby]

Damn sorry to her about her. Best thing to do is to stand by her side and support her. Depression is a nasty "disease" and what is worst is having depression and having no one there it makes you feel less self worth when no one is around.
Exercise, proper diet, relaxation techniques, and yoga can help fight depression.
St. John's wort
Mind power rx
fish oils
coQ10
b vitamins also help out.
Hope it all works out for you and your girlfriend.

 

[fitness-rubber]

I can help
I've tried just about every anti-depressant out there
I take wellbutrin now and it works well w/o sides

Wellbutrin works for me too; my only issue with it is that it's boosted the way my body produces adrenaline and I can't get a normal heart rate for the life of me anymore.

 

[bottleneckblooz]

I just want to say I should not have made this thread about my GF behind her back, even though I meant well, it was a disrespectful thing to do.

 

[proudmom9727]

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[Varga]

OMG....put her on some fuck in test and estrogen and all her issues will be gone within 2 weeks.
If her body cant produce the hormons there isnt not much to do but replace them! Trust me, there are so many ppl depressed becasue of low teststosterone and lower estrogen in women that is almost comical. And most of them are put on anti-depresants..lol what a joke!!!!

I went through the same thing and I laughed at the doctor when he said anti-depresants....went to an endo got some test and Im happy as a pig in shit now.
I;m not saying anti deopressants don't have their place but too many ppl are prescribed the shit for the wrong reason