Any college football/ex-football players here?

[the.gladiator1987]

Jus wanna know what cycles you did if any? And what your stats were and your lifts while in college. Im currently jus going to a JC, playin there next year and planning on going D-2 the year after. My goals are

455 squat
365 bench
495 deadlift
225 OHP
35" vert
4.5 40yd dash

Im 5'10", 200lbs, 10% BF. My 40yd dash is probably 4.6, and my vert is terrible. Probably 28"

I plan on doing 5x5 MWF starting in January with plyos/sprints on T/TH/SA

What did you guys do as far as cycles, training, etc? Thx in advance for sharing guys!

 

[Power36]

Never did any AAS, didnt need it my natural hormones were sky MF high..I overtrained, underslept, and had some stressful academics and bad injuries, but always healed up and came back to play.....ate like a champ, drank protein shakes like it was going out of style, creatine, lots of Vitamin C, EFAs, multi, anti oxidant formula, and just keep eating around the clock but good clean stuff...try some creatine/beta alanine combo, and pop BCAAs all day like its going out of style, before, during and after your workouts.

If you want to improve your vert and speed, you need to get more powerful and stronger...you have the strength covered with squats and deads, bench press and OHP are great for upper body moves, but you need to do some power cleans, hang cleans, snatches, heavy high pulls, push press, snatches, etc....you need to move weight fast from the ground up and improve your power base. Always start your workout with an olympic lift or variation thereof, then move to a structural lift like the ones you have mentioned above (deads, squats, bench, OHP, RDL), do some one leg work like RDLs or pistol squats, and make sure your doing intervals of not just sprints but also lateral movements and patterns you would do from your position on the field..

Go buy some old time Bill Starr books, that will treat you right. And there is an old Nebraska Football Strength and Conditioning book you can get online at any bookstore that covers your bases "Complete Conditioning for Football"...

Your at a JC you gotta be young, no need to juice bro, your body is primed and ready to grow already, tap into it

 

[OSUBEAVERS]

Don't juice bud. Eat sleep and stay away from the party scene. I played D3 transfered to JC in Cali smoked and snorted my way to no offers. Learn from my mistakes please...

 

[Power36]

PS you asked for numbers bro Im so far out from college they wouldnt matter, and I will post some but Im also going to tell you this....numbers dont mean shit on the field....I mean you want to be as strong and fast as you can....but there are stallions in the weightroom and on the track who cant play football for jack shit..so work hard in the gym but dont think that will directly correlate to success on the field....your skills training for you position will, and practicing hard in camp, in season practice, doing well in games at the JC, and spring ball if they have it at JC. You need to get stronger and faster, but also be able to use it athletically on the field...then there are hundreds of other variables, like your mental game and make up, and other athletic traits God gave you or not...

I cleaned in the range of 385, deadlifted and squatted 700 range, 38" standing no step vert, close gripped I think 350 hell I bench more now back then I had shoulder issues and did close grip and didnt crank it too heavy too often I needed my arms for playing not benching, 4.65 40yd dash. I imagine for many of us the numbers climb as the years pass that we played, but those are legit and anytime i see old teammates I am reminded of it because I was known for my lifting, but also known for ripping and tearing muscles all the time with freak soft tissue injuries, and getting tested for juice both in camp and spring even by my own sports med staff they thought I was hitting the sauce because I was an injury prone with major hops and sick power in the weightroom. Lesson learned-overtraining and hitting huge numbers all the time isnt the best thing, I could have hit big numbers, but spent more time working on speed and agility development, conditioning, and game skills....as well spent more time doing active recovery and regeneration work which we know so much more about these days...be foam rolling, massage sticking, stretching, power plate if your school or gym has one, look into all kinds of ways to improve recovery, dont go balls out every single workout, and spend as much time on the track or field practicing game speed running and drills as you do lifting....and trust me, this comes from someone who wants to live and die in a squat rack and olympic platform! Youre better off not juicing, learning more about proper programming lifting sessions, tweaking diet and supplements, and doing lots of recovery work, speed work, and game skills work. Watch tons of game film and study your playbook.

15 years later I cannot sniff those kinds of cleans, deadlifts, squats, vert, or 40! hahah....and my body is a damn mess too. But Ill admit I wouldnt trade those times for anything, only would have trained smarter if I had the knowledge then I do now.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

osubeavers im not into theparty scene. That sucks u had to go through that....

power36 thx for your posts, I have a groin injury which is making it impossible to train on the field but I am hitting it hard in the weight room. I actually just called my coach yesterday to ask him to study the playbook and I am going to see him next week. There last game is Saturday and they are 3-6 right now, so I bet hes ready for some new players LOL. Thanks for your detailed post, it was exactly what I was looking for and exactly what I needed to hear.

I am already on cycle but I think ill be natty during the spring and all throughout the season next Fall.

 

[Power36]

Hang in there brother. Train your good leg as long as it doesnt cause pain on the bad leg. Keep training your upper body too, and if you can afford it get some soft tissue work, light therpy, maybe even accupuncture on that groin...Im all about trying to find ways to improve recovery these days and wish I did more of it back in the day instead of grinding it out through the pain and coming back way before I should have each time...again, I loved football more than life itself...and wouldnt change a thing other than train smarter....

get those books I mentioned, you can go wrong with Bill Starr it is old school but still applicable, as is the Nebraska book. Supplementation can do a lot of neat things for you, the ones I mentioned are not sexy but they will do you some good over the long haul if taken consistent. if you want to get sexy, maybe ask Need2 on here which supplements he has that might help that do not pose any risk to testing positive, I think he has a bunch of suppelements that boost T and anabolic activity that are natural if you want to give it a shot and have the cash. Id keep a foundation though of a multi vitamin, 2-5g vitamin C a day, BCAAs as many as you can afford, EFAs taken multiple times a day, anti oxidant formula, and once your back to weightroom full speed creatine and beta alanine.

Be careful with the sauce....it was many many years ago but I know more then one guy back in the day who thought he was taking EQ or something that would clear his system, and it turned out to have some nandrolone in it and he was popped by NCAA....if your doing UG stuff you never know what might be in it, and you cant risk testing positive a year later from something you didnt realize you took...if your gonna play that game Id only go pharm grade T with PCT, or as much as folks hate orals Id feel more comfortable taking T plus an oral for a stint and getting off long before I knew I could be tested...however I dont know these days if rules changed and they can test you any time they want once you go to an NCAA program, which would make it smart to cut out the AAS for sure....but yea unless you got medical issues you shouldnt need it, do a good PCT and jump on some good supplements, heal up that groin, and tear it up brother...hit the books too, as much as I love football, it always ends for all of us at some point, and a good degree under your belt is a nice thing to have.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Hang in there brother. Train your good leg as long as it doesnt cause pain on the bad leg. Keep training your upper body too, and if you can afford it get some soft tissue work, light therpy, maybe even accupuncture on that groin...Im all about trying to find ways to improve recovery these days and wish I did more of it back in the day instead of grinding it out through the pain and coming back way before I should have each time...again, I loved football more than life itself...and wouldnt change a thing other than train smarter....

get those books I mentioned, you can go wrong with Bill Starr it is old school but still applicable, as is the Nebraska book. Supplementation can do a lot of neat things for you, the ones I mentioned are not sexy but they will do you some good over the long haul if taken consistent. if you want to get sexy, maybe ask Need2 on here which supplements he has that might help that do not pose any risk to testing positive, I think he has a bunch of suppelements that boost T and anabolic activity that are natural if you want to give it a shot and have the cash. Id keep a foundation though of a multi vitamin, 2-5g vitamin C a day, BCAAs as many as you can afford, EFAs taken multiple times a day, anti oxidant formula, and once your back to weightroom full speed creatine and beta alanine.

Be careful with the sauce....it was many many years ago but I know more then one guy back in the day who thought he was taking EQ or something that would clear his system, and it turned out to have some nandrolone in it and he was popped by NCAA....if your doing UG stuff you never know what might be in it, and you cant risk testing positive a year later from something you didnt realize you took...if your gonna play that game Id only go pharm grade T with PCT, or as much as folks hate orals Id feel more comfortable taking T plus an oral for a stint and getting off long before I knew I could be tested...however I dont know these days if rules changed and they can test you any time they want once you go to an NCAA program, which would make it smart to cut out the AAS for sure....but yea unless you got medical issues you shouldnt need it, do a good PCT and jump on some good supplements, heal up that groin, and tear it up brother...hit the books too, as much as I love football, it always ends for all of us at some point, and a good degree under your belt is a nice thing to have.

You know whats weird is that I train and the groin never hurts but it still stays at 90%...i think it is a REALLY deep tissue tear or something. Its almost 100% though. My dad is a chiropractor and has some recovery methods but I think mine is too deep in the tissue...

Im def takin all those supps you recommended! And I know what test boosters you are talking about. I dont thinkI will get tested unless I went D1, ive never heard of D2 testing before? Maybe im totally wrong tho

Im gonna look up those books! Im always wanting to learn more and become better

 

[Power36]

I dont know about D2, probably if you make it to playoffs (do they have playoffs?). I didnt think DIII got tested, thats where some of my boys went to get their gear...off the DIII guys who were as wide as they were tall bloated up on drol and dbol hah..

Not worth it at all...scan this stuff...DII does get tested, and some DIIIs...AND they are now doing summer testing, whether you are on campus or not.......enjoy that last cycle while you are in JC and do a good PCT so your body is primed and healthy to do its magic on its own (which should be plenty with the right training and diet).

NCAA Drug Testing - NCAA.org

NCAA Summer Drug-Testing Frequently Asked Questions - NCAA.org

 

[the.gladiator1987]

wow thanks power, i was going to run deca next week but now im not! I need to find something else to run

I am going to run a solid PCT after this cycle. The be hitting the olympic lifts hard, lots of recovery, clean diet, speed/agility work, stretching, etc. cant wait. My coach actually just texted me last night and said that I have the skill set to play at the next level. Im only at a JC but I still felt good about what he said and makes me wanna try even harder

 

[Power36]

Stay Hungry brother!! yea screw Deca Ive heard anywhere from 12-18 months in your system.....and thats the one guys got popped for all the time since they didnt realize they were taking it and the UG was labled as something else....

Keep up the hard work