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ANXIETY!! can anyone whose had it help me out here
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BigAndy,
Dont blame your docs. They do not expect anyone to go out and booze it up, especially on medication. Its just so obvious that it isnt the smart thing to do, but its not your doctors fault for not telling you the obvious.
You can get a rebound effect on caffeine as well as Paxil or Xanax/Valium or any benzo.
T
Dont blame your docs. They do not expect anyone to go out and booze it up, especially on medication. Its just so obvious that it isnt the smart thing to do, but its not your doctors fault for not telling you the obvious.
You can get a rebound effect on caffeine as well as Paxil or Xanax/Valium or any benzo.
T
Like everyone else that has posted, I know how it feels. I have been dealing with it for eight months now. Just came out of the blue, like I contracted some strange disease. i don't do drugs and I have not used AS for about 3 years.
Inner chest wall pain is very common, and other symptons can vary from a light head to numb legs and arms like I get. I used anti depressant for about 6 months. Been off them for almost 2. They are great to help you deal with the symtons, however don't relu on them alone. you must take the time to deal with this on a pyschological and spritual level.
Notice how you feel fine when working out or having sex? because you mind is occupied and you are producing hormones that make you feel good. Notice this frame of mind and try to go there when you feel shit.
Good luck
Inner chest wall pain is very common, and other symptons can vary from a light head to numb legs and arms like I get. I used anti depressant for about 6 months. Been off them for almost 2. They are great to help you deal with the symtons, however don't relu on them alone. you must take the time to deal with this on a pyschological and spritual level.
Notice how you feel fine when working out or having sex? because you mind is occupied and you are producing hormones that make you feel good. Notice this frame of mind and try to go there when you feel shit.
Good luck
gettingdiesel
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Anxiety just sucks doesn't it . It's the only reason I'm up right now.
DocTodd WTF i must'nt blame my doctor of course i told the stupid bitch i was going to continue drinking while taking paxil she made no objection, she actually started laughing at me when i told her about the zone i had gone into.
We have a serious problem in our society we give too much power to doctors we see them a people who have been blessed with the power to heal. BULLSHIT just because you read a few more books on the human body doesnt mean you've got anymore insight into how the body works.
"Substantial evidence indicates that stimulation of central serotonergic neurotransmission increases the secretion of ACTH/cortisol (5-HT1A, 5-HT2A/2C receptors), oxytocin (5-HT1A, 5-HT2A receptors), prolactin (5-HT2A/2C, 5-HT3 receptors), and renin (5-HT2A receptors). These hormones can be used as peripheral indicators of central serotonergic receptor function, and serve as a "window into the function of the brain".
Paxil increases serotonin good idea there buddy
"Back to biology, there is the HPA axis, which produces CRH which secretes the stress hormone cortisol, which is to mental tranquility what Osama bin Laden is to world peace. Four different companies now have a CRH drug in development. Three or four companies are also working on a substance P agonist (substance P is a neurotransmitter implicated in mood). Work is also being done on the glutamate system (glutamate is an excitatory amino acid that may be responsible for the loss of neurons in the brain), and in looking at how the growth or lack of growth of neurons can affect mood (some antidepressants increase neuron growth)."
We have a serious problem in our society we give too much power to doctors we see them a people who have been blessed with the power to heal. BULLSHIT just because you read a few more books on the human body doesnt mean you've got anymore insight into how the body works.
"Substantial evidence indicates that stimulation of central serotonergic neurotransmission increases the secretion of ACTH/cortisol (5-HT1A, 5-HT2A/2C receptors), oxytocin (5-HT1A, 5-HT2A receptors), prolactin (5-HT2A/2C, 5-HT3 receptors), and renin (5-HT2A receptors). These hormones can be used as peripheral indicators of central serotonergic receptor function, and serve as a "window into the function of the brain".
Paxil increases serotonin good idea there buddy
"Back to biology, there is the HPA axis, which produces CRH which secretes the stress hormone cortisol, which is to mental tranquility what Osama bin Laden is to world peace. Four different companies now have a CRH drug in development. Three or four companies are also working on a substance P agonist (substance P is a neurotransmitter implicated in mood). Work is also being done on the glutamate system (glutamate is an excitatory amino acid that may be responsible for the loss of neurons in the brain), and in looking at how the growth or lack of growth of neurons can affect mood (some antidepressants increase neuron growth)."
got to fight it
I'v had all the problens told here. No antidepressant has worked for me, and I've tried everything. I mean all anti-d's, anxiety meds, sleeping pills, pain killers, recreational, etc..... Everything but the antidepressants help, but only temporarily. You wind up depending on the stuff and get a tolerance and before you know it your popping handfulls of pills or other things all day. Then when your out, you're hurting. I still almost allways have some klonopin and valium on hand for when I really need it as I am a terrible insomniac and my anger control isn't the best. Weed helps too but I have to take breaks because I wind up smoking all day. But my girlfriend prefers me smoking because I'm much nicer on it. Really need to toughen up and quit it, but it seems I constantly go back because I need my little sleep I get. But like i was saying I would love to quit it all, cause sometimes nothing helps, so why take it. I took above my recommended dose last night and didn't sleep a minute, and only a couple hours the night before. Good thing I'm laid off this weak, I've almost lost my job and have lost my freedom a couple of times due to these problems, I really need to solve this. Don't know if you have children, but learning to put thier needs first is helping me more than anything. Also, if I remember correctly you may be into Budhism, does meditation help you? May have went off base on you, sorry. But the little guys waking from his nap, gotta go. Wish I slept like him. Feel free to pm me, good luck bro.
I'v had all the problens told here. No antidepressant has worked for me, and I've tried everything. I mean all anti-d's, anxiety meds, sleeping pills, pain killers, recreational, etc..... Everything but the antidepressants help, but only temporarily. You wind up depending on the stuff and get a tolerance and before you know it your popping handfulls of pills or other things all day. Then when your out, you're hurting. I still almost allways have some klonopin and valium on hand for when I really need it as I am a terrible insomniac and my anger control isn't the best. Weed helps too but I have to take breaks because I wind up smoking all day. But my girlfriend prefers me smoking because I'm much nicer on it. Really need to toughen up and quit it, but it seems I constantly go back because I need my little sleep I get. But like i was saying I would love to quit it all, cause sometimes nothing helps, so why take it. I took above my recommended dose last night and didn't sleep a minute, and only a couple hours the night before. Good thing I'm laid off this weak, I've almost lost my job and have lost my freedom a couple of times due to these problems, I really need to solve this. Don't know if you have children, but learning to put thier needs first is helping me more than anything. Also, if I remember correctly you may be into Budhism, does meditation help you? May have went off base on you, sorry. But the little guys waking from his nap, gotta go. Wish I slept like him. Feel free to pm me, good luck bro.
p0ink
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If you are having problems with anxiety, you should definately check with your physician (like you said you did) to make sure everything is in check. If you really are suffering from anxiety (which can be attributed to many things such as physcial ailments, stress, and even your diet), I would try to get your doctor to give you an rx for some kind of benzo, but in a low potency, limited amount (which they will generally start you with anyways). The reason why I say this is because, benzo's really are addictive, cause they are just so damn good, especially during an attack. Most doctors will probably tell you to give st johns wort or valerian root a shot before they will give you an rx, but in my case, they didn't do a thing. They will probably end up giving you some klonopin or xanax (probably around .25mg or .5mg).
I have had anxiety on and off for the last two years, and I know how bad it sucks. I am currently using 1-1.5 mg's of xanax whenever I feel one coming on. Klonopin and Valium didnt really do much for me, I'm more of a xanax fan myself. Another thing, I highly would reccomend staying the hell away from any sort of SSRI...cause I have seen so many people I am close with come to depnd on those things way too much. Plus doctors prescribe them like they were god damn candy. I have a friend who was on 3 different meds a day for depression, and now that he has been off them for 4 months, he still isn't himself. I would not want to take any med that changes brain chemistry and that you take every day. Thats why I like benzo's ,because you take them when they are needed.
I have had anxiety on and off for the last two years, and I know how bad it sucks. I am currently using 1-1.5 mg's of xanax whenever I feel one coming on. Klonopin and Valium didnt really do much for me, I'm more of a xanax fan myself. Another thing, I highly would reccomend staying the hell away from any sort of SSRI...cause I have seen so many people I am close with come to depnd on those things way too much. Plus doctors prescribe them like they were god damn candy. I have a friend who was on 3 different meds a day for depression, and now that he has been off them for 4 months, he still isn't himself. I would not want to take any med that changes brain chemistry and that you take every day. Thats why I like benzo's ,because you take them when they are needed.
It seems like anxiety is the most common side effect of AAS. Definately try something natural like inositol or Kava before you go the Doc. GHB is very helpful if you use it responsibly. Cardio is something else that helped me. Paxil killed my sex drive. When I was on it, two weeks went by before I realized that I hadn't even thought about sex. Only try meds as a last resort. Take a look at your life and stress level and try to deal with the causes of your anxiety, dont just get some meds to cover up the symptoms.
