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TANYA: It seems to me that what you are offering is a form of mindfulness meditation, but extending that into our interaction with other people and the world.
PETER: Perhaps. What do you mean by mindfulness meditation?
TANYA: Staying aware of what we are doing in the moment. Being aware of what I doing no matter what it is. If I'm washing my dog being fully aware that I'm washing the dog and not drifting off into my thoughts about the past or future.
PETER: What's wrong with that? What's the problem in washing your dog and thinking about tomorrow?
TANYA: Well, I'm not being present to what is there. I might get soap in my dog's eyes, or more to the point, if I'm driving, I might ram up the back side of the car in front.
PETER: Sure, in some situations, like driving our attention should be on the road, which it generally is. But we still don't need to block all other thoughts. If this was a condition for safe driving no one would have a licence. In fact, if we didn't think about the future there would never be a reason to brake or accelerate.
TANYA: I don't know about that. But I still feel that if I'm washing my dog, I should have basically all my attention on what's happening.
PETER: But, what if other thoughts are part of what is? Are those thoughts about the tomorrow or yesterday, there (in the present) when you are washing the dog, or are they happening at some other time?
TANYA: Yes, they are there, but they are a distraction from being present to what is.
PETER: How is that possible if that's what is there?
TANYA: I see what you are saying. They are there in the present even though they might be about the past or future. Still, if I'm thinking about tomorrow it means that I'm not fully appreciating what is immediately present to me.
PETER: That's right. Perhaps your not attending to the smell of soap and fur as you wash your dog. Instead you're attending to some internal imagery and thoughts about a meeting you are having tomorrow. You're are present to some thoughts about something else because those are the thoughts that are there. Specific thoughs are there to be though, so your are thinking them, in the same way that there are visual sensations of your hands and dog which you are perceiving.
Still, I do appreciate what you are saying. It's just that we can give ourselves a lot of suffering by struggling to do something different from what we are doing. This isn't to say that we should be doing whatever we are doing in some moralistic or fatalistic sense. Rather it is simply recogising that presence includes being present to thoughts, feelings, etc. that we would prefer not to be there. Yet, interestingly, if we are also open and honest about the fact that we have preferences, the same thoughts and feelings can be there in a totally transparent and uneventful way. Often we disguise our preferences by clothing them in righteous beliefs about what we should be experiencing.
[Silence]
PETER: Are you being mindful right now?
TANYA: Yes.
PETER: Perhaps. What do you mean by mindfulness meditation?
TANYA: Staying aware of what we are doing in the moment. Being aware of what I doing no matter what it is. If I'm washing my dog being fully aware that I'm washing the dog and not drifting off into my thoughts about the past or future.
PETER: What's wrong with that? What's the problem in washing your dog and thinking about tomorrow?
TANYA: Well, I'm not being present to what is there. I might get soap in my dog's eyes, or more to the point, if I'm driving, I might ram up the back side of the car in front.
PETER: Sure, in some situations, like driving our attention should be on the road, which it generally is. But we still don't need to block all other thoughts. If this was a condition for safe driving no one would have a licence. In fact, if we didn't think about the future there would never be a reason to brake or accelerate.
TANYA: I don't know about that. But I still feel that if I'm washing my dog, I should have basically all my attention on what's happening.
PETER: But, what if other thoughts are part of what is? Are those thoughts about the tomorrow or yesterday, there (in the present) when you are washing the dog, or are they happening at some other time?
TANYA: Yes, they are there, but they are a distraction from being present to what is.
PETER: How is that possible if that's what is there?
TANYA: I see what you are saying. They are there in the present even though they might be about the past or future. Still, if I'm thinking about tomorrow it means that I'm not fully appreciating what is immediately present to me.
PETER: That's right. Perhaps your not attending to the smell of soap and fur as you wash your dog. Instead you're attending to some internal imagery and thoughts about a meeting you are having tomorrow. You're are present to some thoughts about something else because those are the thoughts that are there. Specific thoughs are there to be though, so your are thinking them, in the same way that there are visual sensations of your hands and dog which you are perceiving.
Still, I do appreciate what you are saying. It's just that we can give ourselves a lot of suffering by struggling to do something different from what we are doing. This isn't to say that we should be doing whatever we are doing in some moralistic or fatalistic sense. Rather it is simply recogising that presence includes being present to thoughts, feelings, etc. that we would prefer not to be there. Yet, interestingly, if we are also open and honest about the fact that we have preferences, the same thoughts and feelings can be there in a totally transparent and uneventful way. Often we disguise our preferences by clothing them in righteous beliefs about what we should be experiencing.
[Silence]
PETER: Are you being mindful right now?
TANYA: Yes.
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