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you bro's ever use milk thistle?
Another, Oxandrolone only cycle!!
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Little Boy
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heavy_duty said:
Tyler's Liver Detox, availible at the EF store, is a much, much, much better choice.
Tux
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I use Tylers now, AND the linberg milk thistle Radar likes for dbol pumps. I agree, I'm on 60mg/day of russian dbol now, and normally the pumps would be crippling in my lower back on squat day, but I have no problems now 
Also no, I don't think 10mg/day of nolva throughout the cycle will hurt your HCG at the end at all, in fact it's a good thing, HCG kick-starts your boys but also introduces some estrogen into your system, having nolva already in your bloodstream will block any possible gyno from the HCG, though at 250iu 2x a week I highly doubt that'll be a problem. And yes, you can run clomid and nolva together for PCT, but nolva is plenty enough for a var-only cycle, I don't even see the need for HCG, but to each his own.
Also no, I don't think 10mg/day of nolva throughout the cycle will hurt your HCG at the end at all, in fact it's a good thing, HCG kick-starts your boys but also introduces some estrogen into your system, having nolva already in your bloodstream will block any possible gyno from the HCG, though at 250iu 2x a week I highly doubt that'll be a problem. And yes, you can run clomid and nolva together for PCT, but nolva is plenty enough for a var-only cycle, I don't even see the need for HCG, but to each his own.heavy_duty
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what's the worse thing that can happen if you dont run any PCT on a var only cycle?
PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch
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Use test man! you'll thank me for that...
no need to do nolva during cycle even if you use the test at 250 mg a week,
My first cycle was test enanth (scherings) at 250 mg/week and 30 mg var a day for 10 weeks.
gained almost 18 solid pounds, kept 16. and bf dropped!
I used hcg 50 ui's a week (splited 2 shots of 250 uis one in saturaday and one in sunday) starting 2 weeks after first test shot. and ending 4 or 5 days BEFORE PCT.
I ran clomid and nolva for PCT :
clomid 250 mg day 1, 100 mg day 2 , then 50 mg for 16 days.
Nolva: 40 mg week one, 20 mg for 12 days.
nO SIDES AT ALL.!
Hope this can help you.
no need to do nolva during cycle even if you use the test at 250 mg a week,
My first cycle was test enanth (scherings) at 250 mg/week and 30 mg var a day for 10 weeks.
gained almost 18 solid pounds, kept 16. and bf dropped!
I used hcg 50 ui's a week (splited 2 shots of 250 uis one in saturaday and one in sunday) starting 2 weeks after first test shot. and ending 4 or 5 days BEFORE PCT.
I ran clomid and nolva for PCT :
clomid 250 mg day 1, 100 mg day 2 , then 50 mg for 16 days.
Nolva: 40 mg week one, 20 mg for 12 days.
nO SIDES AT ALL.!
Hope this can help you.
digimon7068
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Makavelli said:
How many mg per day during and how many mg per day after and for how long? Also, do you start on day one of your cycle? I've researched this and there seems to be a lot of conflicting opnions out there.
