Another, Oxandrolone only cycle!!

[tosha]

Greets!

I’m looking to gain strength and definition, for the most part, but 4-6 lbs of lean mass would be a nice ‘extra’ addition too. I’m considering a 10-week Anavar ONLY cycle @ 80mg daily + 10g of CEE daily.

I would like to prevent testicular atrophy from occurring in the first place so I want to use HCG throughout the entire cycle.

My questions are:
- Should I start my PCT the day after my last Anavar dose?
- Is 6 weeks too long of a PCT for a Var only cycle?
- A 12 week Var cycle would be an option?
- Anyone else has used HCG for a Var only cycle?

What I have so far:
Anavar 80mg ED Weeks 1-10
HCG 500iu 2x/Week Weeks 1-10
Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-14
Maca 1-2g ED Weeks 1-14
Nolva 20mg ED Weeks 10-16
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 10-16

Comments, suggestions and experiences are all welcome. Thanks in advance brothas!!!

 

[Outtlaw]

Couple of things. Do either the nolva or clomid, no need to run both. Save the HCG for a cycle you'll really need it for. If you insist on using it, just run it the last week you do the var. That should be more than enough for recovery from this cycle. And if you're really paranoid about atrophy then use it for 1 week at like wk 4 or 5 and you'll be fine. But honestly, I really think you can do without it all together.

 

[gottis]

bro ,,imo i ran var at 20 to 25 mg stacked with something else ,,and i had good gains,, but 80 mg 10 weeks is gona give u harsh sides on liver values and cholesterol for sure ,, why not do 6 weeks with the orals ... u have alot more choices better gains vs sides cyclo ..but 80 mg is crazy to do for that long , my 2 cents good luck

 

[Tux]

That cycle is fine, var is quite mild on the liver actually, at least compared to dbol/winny/anadrol. Also not as bad on the lipids as winny. Get those levels checked mid-cycle and I see no reason not to run it that length. However, your HCG and PCT seem way overdone. Anavar-only cycle, I wouldn't even use HCG. All I'd do is 3 weeks of nolva starting the day after your last tab of var, or if you simply must, HCG the first week of PCT like Outlaw suggested. Man Outlaw, you're not leaving anything for me to answer, I gotta spread it around before I can hit you with K again

 

[wayneboard1]

That cycle is fine, var is quite mild on the liver actually, at least compared to dbol/winny/anadrol. Also not as bad on the lipids as winny. Get those levels checked mid-cycle and I see no reason not to run it that length. However, your HCG and PCT seem way overdone. Anavar-only cycle, I wouldn't even use HCG. All I'd do is 3 weeks of nolva starting the day after your last tab of var, or if you simply must, HCG the first week of PCT like Outlaw suggested. Man Outlaw, you're not leaving anything for me to answer, I gotta spread it around before I can hit you with K again

To help with the cholesterol/lipid issues, would you guys reccommend he run a small dose of nolva throughout his cycle? Just a random thought.

 

[split endz]

Tux and Outlaw are right on concerning this. Totally agree with both. I ran nolva for 2 weeks, starting the day after last var.

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

Var Will Shut You Down, Add Some Test For General Wellbeeing At 250 Mg / Test Enanth Every 15 Days.
Good Solid Cycle!
And Use Only 50 Mg Var/ Day Max.

 

[Makavelli]

To help with the cholesterol/lipid issues, would you guys reccommend he run a small dose of nolva throughout his cycle? Just a random thought.

Yes. I run Nolva every cycle.

 

[Tux]

I also run nolva every time I run orals or tren. Usually I run 10mg/day of nolva, mak how much do you run?

 

[tosha]

Thanks for the suggestion bros I will take them into consideration. I few more questions though.

Right now I’m bearing in mind going down to 60MG of Var and checking my lipid & liver panels mid cycle as suggested.
Yes, I’m really paranoid about atrophy. So, I’m thinking, HCG 250IU 2x/week every 3 weeks, that is WK2, WK5, and WK9. How is that? ;-)

Also, guys can it hurt me to run both nolva & clomid together just for 3 week as my PCT? I’ve always heard it is a good idea but there is always a down side to everything.

Regarding Var shutting me down, I’m really leery of using test but I’m hoping the Tongkat Ali, Tribulus, and maca will kind of help me with that, even. Maybe I got all wrong?

BTW, running a small dose of nolva ( How small? ) throughout the cycle, like wayneboard1 suggested, can cause problems with the HCG at all?

Thanks again!

 

[heavy_duty]

you bro's ever use milk thistle?

 

[Little Boy]

you bro's ever use milk thistle?

Tyler's Liver Detox, availible at the EF store, is a much, much, much better choice.

 

[Tux]

I use Tylers now, AND the linberg milk thistle Radar likes for dbol pumps. I agree, I'm on 60mg/day of russian dbol now, and normally the pumps would be crippling in my lower back on squat day, but I have no problems now Also no, I don't think 10mg/day of nolva throughout the cycle will hurt your HCG at the end at all, in fact it's a good thing, HCG kick-starts your boys but also introduces some estrogen into your system, having nolva already in your bloodstream will block any possible gyno from the HCG, though at 250iu 2x a week I highly doubt that'll be a problem. And yes, you can run clomid and nolva together for PCT, but nolva is plenty enough for a var-only cycle, I don't even see the need for HCG, but to each his own.

 

[tosha]

Tyler's Liver Detox, availible at the EF store, is a much, much, much better choice.

Ahh, I almost forgot, Tyler's Liver detox is the other thing I will be running throughout. Thanks!

 

[heavy_duty]

what's the worse thing that can happen if you dont run any PCT on a var only cycle?

 

[Tux]

You lose more than you started with.

 

[tosha]

what's the worse thing that can happen if you dont run any PCT on a var only cycle?

Yeah, you most def. dont want to do that...

 

[tosha]

I just read an article that talks about how Concurrent use of Tamoxifen Blocks HCG Induced Leydig Cell Desensitization and might improve its affectiveness...Thanks for bringing that up wayneboard1, K to ya!

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

Use test man! you'll thank me for that...
no need to do nolva during cycle even if you use the test at 250 mg a week,
My first cycle was test enanth (scherings) at 250 mg/week and 30 mg var a day for 10 weeks.
gained almost 18 solid pounds, kept 16. and bf dropped!
I used hcg 50 ui's a week (splited 2 shots of 250 uis one in saturaday and one in sunday) starting 2 weeks after first test shot. and ending 4 or 5 days BEFORE PCT.
I ran clomid and nolva for PCT :
clomid 250 mg day 1, 100 mg day 2 , then 50 mg for 16 days.
Nolva: 40 mg week one, 20 mg for 12 days.
nO SIDES AT ALL.!
Hope this can help you.

 

[digimon7068]

Yes. I run Nolva every cycle.

How many mg per day during and how many mg per day after and for how long? Also, do you start on day one of your cycle? I've researched this and there seems to be a lot of conflicting opnions out there.

 

[wayneboard1]

Yes. I run Nolva every cycle.

Do you have any information as to how much (a % maybe) that a low dose of Nolva helps with CHolesterol levels, especially when on a cholesterol crusher such as var?

 

[sledhead09]

I am on a var test cycle now. 30mg var and 250 a week test. Taking tylers also, I am very happy with my first cycle.

 

[faaassst]

I am on a var test cycle now. 30mg var and 250 a week test. Taking tylers also, I am very happy with my first cycle.

How far are you into your cycle?

 

[tosha]

How many of you guys get extra "emotional" while on clomid, I've heard mix reviews but I think this side effect varies from people to people and perhaps on the dosage taken? Anybody?