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Another DNP related death

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I2ancid said:
DNP is not going to kill you anymore than an allergic reaction to acetaminophen (tylenol) will.

Show me some evidence of this, and your personal or all your buddies experiences will not do. Real Scientific Evidence, or else you'll sound like a youngster who has tried cannabis and because he didn't get serious harms he now says it's harmless
 
Juice Authority said:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129197

Posted by SHOT at bb.com.

Very sad news.....
Many of you remember i used to be a mod at bloodsweatsteel....


If you remember one of the mods there named JOHN_U then you would know that he was one of the smartest bros i have ever met online....and one big guy...we used to trade alot of pics together about 2 years ago....he was the first person to really talk to me about slin...and how i set up my personal cycles....

Most of his post were really hard to understand because he was so tech. with them. He was a college student...studying something in the chem field.....

Well some of his last post he made on the board were talking about an infection that he had.....then he just stopped posting all together....for awhile the mods at bss tryed to track him down...but had no luck....

Well his roomate just posted on BSS that John had died from DNP....i dont know anymore details other then that....this is a real shocker because i know John knew more about DNP then anyone i know....when i say this bro was a guru he really was...

How this happened i dont know....but his roomate found him in his room last week i guess dead...

this is truely said....i am just in so much shock...i cant believe this....he was such a nice guy...never flammed...always would help anyone no matter how big or small the prob was..

he will be truely missed on the boards thats forsure...

so this post is for my brother...JOHN_U...R.I.P brother...we will miss you...

P.S ...how many more bros are going to have to have really bad side effects or death before we stop useing this shit...

sorry for your friend bro, but sometimes even the smartest bros will take high risks for whatever reason; on the same note i beleave dnp is safe if used correctly
 
Antti said:


Show me some evidence of this, and your personal or all your buddies experiences will not do. Real Scientific Evidence, or else you'll sound like a youngster who has tried cannabis and because he didn't get serious harms he now says it's harmless
I dont have the reports in front of me but if I remember correctly there is something like 140,000 elderly in emergency rooms and hospitals yearly due to problems with OTC pain relivers such as ibuprofin etc so just nbecause good old uncle sam says something can be purchased OTC doesnt mean its safe.
 
Antti said:


Show me some evidence of this, and your personal or all your buddies experiences will not do. Real Scientific Evidence, or else you'll sound like a youngster who has tried cannabis and because he didn't get serious harms he now says it's harmless

when are you gonna get serious harms directly induced by the smoking of marijuana:FRlol:
 
bigAragorn said:


when are you gonna get serious harms directly induced by the smoking of marijuana:FRlol:

I said: because he didn't get any serious harms, he now says it's HARMLESS.

NOT SERIOUS HARMS is not equal to HARMLESS
 
Antti said:


Show me some evidence of this, and your personal or all your buddies experiences will not do. Real Scientific Evidence, or else you'll sound like a youngster who has tried cannabis and because he didn't get serious harms he now says it's harmless
This is soooo not the place for this debate but people really need to get a clue. Any doctors on this site can back me up because it is factual information that is available on www.fedstats.gov so look it up and let this issue go.... Anyone who says DNP use is dumb because it has pesticides better not by their produce from a grocery store because the Government decides how much pesticides are OK for you to ingest so the farmers can cut costs. Every person on the board ingests more harmful pesticides in a month of fresh fruit and veggies then I do in a week cycle of DNP. Anyone who smokes 5 cigarettes in a week ingests more poison then I do in a week of DNP. It is a business...if DNP could be mass produced and legislated and maintained with a level of safety to avoid law suit it would be legal. Ephedrine is legal, but business are baking out because people are dying...does that mean that last year when every one was talking about their ECA stack that they are dumb for taking the risk? Steroids aren't legal because the business isn't worth the risks. People on this board may know alot of people that use gear but it is a very small portion of the population. Fen Fen had more serious side effects then the DNP studies but it was released to the public because it had a larger financial supporter. Everyone has a right to say they wouldn't use DNP just like people say they would never use a gram a week of test or more. But why insult people who have different views. I'm not dumb or not cautious or I believe fat loss is more important then life. I feel my use is safe, and I feel it is just as safe as have the crap people buy of the internet. You'll buy gear from an underground lab that could be run by terrorists groups who put anthrax in the bottles...you going to stop using gear? If you want to bitch and moan just to bitch and moan go to volunteer at an old folks home, they will join in and go to town with you. NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO PROOVE DNP IS SAFE....it will never happen...no one will ever be able to say Tylenol is safe....the point is the risk of death by Tylenol is out weighed by the money that it brings in for the government. Pot will be legal...Write this down and hold me to it. They are working on ways to control its potency and then all those people who said it was so dangerous can suck a phatty because Uncle Sam gave it approval. I can sit here all day and throw out what-ifs. If you don't want to use DNP, then don't, if there is a thread about it and you never have tried it then don't chime in. There are 576243863045602942 threads on this site and DNP bashers who have never tried it always seem to pitch in two cents about something they know nothing about. What do you want ANTTI, a doctorial thesis? It is dangerous stuff when abused, so is alcohol, driving fast in your car, not wearing a seat belt, sky diving. When I first joined this board it was awesome, now you find all these ass clowns who ruin thread after thread. This started as RIP for a lost Bro and people used it to hop on their ignorant soap box. IF YOU DON'T LIKE DNP..DON'T USE IT...simple enough?
 
Whenever people say something is bad, people just pick other things and say they're worse. People say steroids are bad, other people say tobacco is worse...people say DNP is bad, other people say tylenol is worse...

Let's be real here for a second...DNP is worse than any of them...it's just that fewer people use it. Yes, tylenol kills people sometimes, but there are billions of people using it. Smoking kills people, but after decades and decades of use...it doesn't have the potential to kill someone within a day like DNP does. Alcohol can kill you in a second, but it's easy to educate people on responsible use.

My theory on why some things are legal, and some are illegal all comes down to education. It's easy to tell people, don't drink and drive or you could die...don't smoke or you cold die earlier.

It's alot harder to educate people about responsible use of something like DNP and AAS. It takes a long time to figure out how to use that stuff safely, and alot of people would probably still fuck it up.
 
halfaclue said:
What do you want ANTTI, a doctorial thesis? It is dangerous stuff when abused, so is alcohol, driving fast in your car, not wearing a seat belt, sky diving.

Please don't jump on the walls. Are the recommendations of dosage based on some scientific evidence? That is what I want to know. Do we know what is abusing and what is not? Do we know the real consequences of using DNP? I think these are important questions, you might not.

halfaclue said:
When I first joined this board it was awesome, now you find all these ass clowns who ruin thread after thread. This started as RIP for a lost Bro and people used it to hop on their ignorant soap box. IF YOU DON'T LIKE DNP..DON'T USE IT...simple enough?

There is a reason I don't like DNP and will not use it but I think it isn't in any way related to an "ass clowns" behavior if I want to have my questions answered. If you can answer, please do. These are important things we are talking about because even if there is a slight possibility for example that the recommendations are off base there are lives depending on it.
 
Bulldog_10 said:
My theory on why some things are legal, and some are illegal all comes down to education. It's easy to tell people, don't drink and drive or you could die...don't smoke or you cold die earlier.
I dont buy that for a second, the legality of items have nothing to do with education. They have been preaching alcohol and tabacco are bad for years upon years and it deters very few. You can lead a horse to water but cant make it drink, the people who want to know about AAS learn about AAS and those that dont simply get shoveled a load of overexagerated bullshit and they buy into it because they could care less about.

The legality of things is more because our government needs to justify its existance and they do so by going after things that offer little or no opposition coupled with the fact it means no money in their pockets. Alcohol/tabacco puts far too many $$$$ in uncle sams pocket and would simply have too much opposition for it to be further regulated. AAS use on the other hand is easu to pick on because sports bodies want it controlled and the average citizen could care less about it so that just leaves the small percentage of the population to speak out against it and in a government so mired down in beaurocratic bullshit, even if the 1,000,000 estimated AAS users gathered and marched on the capital we would be laughed at, ridiculed and blown off.
 
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