Andy13 - A question.

[hookuprx]

Calling all chemists / mathematics majors!

I just started my cycle, I am doing 600mg of cyp and 400mg of boldenon a week. I front loaded my cycle at 1200mg / 800mg for the first week. I am also crunching a handful of dianabol everyday, but with the short half life I am not concerened with that. What I need is the equation so that I can arrive at the estimated time it will be after my last shot, that I can effectively begin clomid therapy. I plan on taking a fast acting steroid after I end my cycle - until the cyp / eq is out of my system, but I need to know when that will be. If anyone has any info - I appreciate it. I will post any results of this - if they warrant. Thanks

btw - I am looking to know the estimated 'plasma levels' before begining clomid, not - just start after 3 weeks. Thanks again.

derrick m.
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[hookuprx]

bump.

 

[CHAOS5000]

I had this saved from an earlier post of Andy13's...

K*e^(ln(1/2)*(X-(N-1)BH)/H) - K*e^(ln(1/2)*(X-(N-1)BH+1)/H)

Where:
K=amount injected
X=day#
N=injection #
B=injection frequency constant realitive to half life (for instance, if h=7 days, if injected
once a week, B=1. If injected twice a week, B=1/2
H=half life.

This formula has flexibility in allowing different half lives and different injection
amounts to be calculated.


Each injection is a new graph.. These are calculated seperately to allow for different
injection amounts. IN the case of sustanon, 4 equations like this one strung together
based on the 4 esters in sustanon.




Is this what you were looking for?

 

[Andy13]

math majors--- lol!!! I didn't learn this in MY major (ART)...

(greek letter "sigma" or "sum of") 400*e^(ln(1/2)n/(8/7) from n=0 to n=8 ~ 875mg...

there seems to be some debate on the half life of eq.. I gave it a half life of 8/7 weeks, or, a little over a week.. If anything, it may be a little longer than this.

But, after about 8 weeks of 400mg dosing, you will have accumulated around 875mg of esterified eq in your system...

three weeks after your last shot, around 140 mg of esterifed eq will remain...

after 4 weeks, ~77mg remain.
after 5 ~ 42mg remain..


Andy

 

[hookuprx]

You majored in art?? DOH!

Ok, so according to my dosage, after running everything for like 10 weeks, I will not be able to effectively start my recovery of my hpta until 4 weeks after my last dose? So maybe I should run a shorter acting drug like winny, fina or even anavar for maybe 5 weeks, then start my clomid?

derrick m.
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[CHAOS5000]

I don't think you need to wait THAT long to start clomid. IMO there you should start it while you DO still have a small amount of juice in your system. Clomid will take a few days to reach a theraputic dose, so if you wait too long, you'll be losing gains before your test comes back. I also definately think ending with a fast acting drug is a good idea too. I doubt you can go wrong with a fina/winny combo. BTW Andy... I love all your posts. I'm not a chem major (physics actually) but I love chem and find most all of everything you have to say fascinating.

 

[hookuprx]

I'm a dropout who became a Information Technology Consultant. I also am part of the Andy13 Fan Club.

This is my cycle:

1-3/4 weeks: 40mg dianabol
1st week: 1200mg ttokkyo cyp
1st week: 800mg ttokkyo eq
2-9 weeks: 600mg cyp
2-9 weeks: 400mg eq
10-15 weeks: winstrol (like 50mg ed/eod)

and start clomid a few days after - I have to double check the life of winstrol, should be days. Running the winstrol for 5 weeks after the rest ensures that the cyp/eq has cleared my system and recovery is much easier with a faster acting drug... right

derrick m.
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[CHAOS5000]

IMO you should start clomid the day after your last dose of winny. Also I think the winny should be 50mg ED. I like you're cycle. You should make great gains. The only thing I'd add is some arimidex.

 

[Andy13]

You majored in art?? DOH!

Ok, so according to my dosage, after running everything for like 10 weeks, I will not be able to effectively start my recovery of my hpta until 4 weeks after my last dose? So maybe I should run a shorter acting drug like winny, fina or even anavar for maybe 5 weeks, then start my clomid?

derrick m.
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That's right, bro... I'm just a few credits away from my Art degree... I'll finish it up by this spring, for sure--- AAS chemistry is just a hobbie of mine..

I think finishing up a cycle with short acting drugs is a great idea... I outlined this in my "modern AAS cycling" thread... If you haven't already, maybe you would want to check it out...

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=54385

keep us updated..

 

[kras27]

In mathematical model

K*e^(ln(1/2)*(X-(N-1)BH)/H) - K*e^(ln(1/2)*(X-(N-1)BH+1)/H)

I don't understand that two variables
N and BH.

I'd like someone explain it; thanks and sorry for my poor English