AndrolGel (Testosterone gel) 1%

[FrEaKsHo]

I tried to scam my doctor and get him to prescribe me gear. He came back with this. I'm to apply this to my upper arm/shoulders once a day. Four pumps equals 5g or 50mg. Is it worth my time? Any suggestions on what I could/should request him to prescribe me?

Thx Bros

FrEaKsHo
36/5'10"/180

 

[get456]

If you really need HRT, then yes it is completely worthwhile. If you are just trying to do a cycle it isnt going to work for that.

However, depending on dosage and the individual, you could easily get to 800ng which would be very nice for the long term (but nothing like a full cycle)

 

[Papa Lion]

get him to change you to injections. if he's willing to give you test gel.. then he should be willing to give you injections... it's the same medication... just different method. tell him you are worried about your gf/wife getting the cream on her... and that sh'e worried about it too and now she doesn't wanna sleep with you and you don't wanna have to comprimise your sex life or risk your gf/wife's health!! which is a actual risk and concern with the transdermal test!!

 

[Nelson Montana]

get him to change you to injections. if he's willing to give you test gel.. then he should be willing to give you injections... it's the same medication... just different method. tell him you are worried about your gf/wife getting the cream on her... and that sh'e worried about it too and now she doesn't wanna sleep with you and you don't wanna have to comprimise your sex life or risk your gf/wife's health!! which is a actual risk and concern with the transdermal test!!

Good point.

I didn't know androgel now comes in a pump but daily applications amount to approx 100 mgs of T a week -- at 5X's the price.

You can also ask your doc for a more economical alternative. He's obligated to tell you about injections. You can even have a nurse do it the first few times. After a while they won't even pay attention. Just get your script and go.

 

[Jimbo15]

you'd be better off with dermacrine

 

[FrEaKsHo]

Thx guys for the info. Ill check with my doctor. Ill let you know what happens.

FrEaKsHo

 

[ALIN]

I tried to scam my doctor and get him to prescribe me gear. He came back with this. I'm to apply this to my upper arm/shoulders once a day. Four pumps equals 5g or 50mg. Is it worth my time? Any suggestions on what I could/should request him to prescribe me?

Thx Bros

FrEaKsHo
36/5'10"/180

its better than nothing,,but not great for bodybuilding. tell him you did some research and think the injectable testosterone would be best for your lifestyle.

 

[5150guy]

you'd be better off with dermacrine

What makes dermacrine better than androgel? Androgel contains legit "bio-identical" Testosterone.

Dermacrine contains: Pregnenolone, DHEA, 7,8 Benzoflavone, Chrysin, Resveratol. Nothing here that you can not get at a good health food store.

Just want to hear why anyone would be better off with Dermacrine as opposed to Androgel. Lab results are much more convincing than just some one claiming that Dermacrine is superior.

In my opinion both Androgel and Dermacrine are over priced.

 

[mattdan]

Androgel is VERY expensive and good for HRT only.

And there is NOTHING wrong with trying the natural way first. Never used Dermacrine, but the ingredients sound like they may work. DHEA believe it or not, does help. I say that from personal experience on my docs recommendation.

I talked him into injectable cyp tho. I can't talk my new doc into a cyp script. Time for a new doc. You may have the same problem.

I really don't like this doc anyway.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Dermacrine worked nicely for me...I felt good throughout the whole time I was on it...(increased libido, strength, good mood)....it helped with my P C T.... not sure how it'd work as a standalone for P C T, but I can see it working nicely along with androgel, being that the gel is pretty mild. In fact, I'm gonna try it myself.

 

[Jimbo15]

Dermacrine worked nicely for me...I felt good throughout the whole time I was on it...(increased libido, strength, good mood)....it helped with my P C T.... not sure how it'd work as a standalone for P C T, but I can see it working nicely along with androgel, being that the gel is pretty mild. In fact, I'm gonna try it myself.

the company suggests dermacrine sustain for pct. but i've talked to the guys on the phone a few times about their products. and they've told me that dermacrine can be used as hormone replacement, which i believe is what androgel is for. but if using it as hormone replacement it can be used without the month on/off cycling. i really got a kick out of it (all of the above listed benefits). which is why i wanted to use it all the time. but they said only for hormone replacement.

 

[Jimbo15]

What makes dermacrine better than androgel? Androgel contains legit "bio-identical" Testosterone.

Dermacrine contains: Pregnenolone, DHEA, 7,8 Benzoflavone, Chrysin, Resveratol. Nothing here that you can not get at a good health food store.

Just want to hear why anyone would be better off with Dermacrine as opposed to Androgel. Lab results are much more convincing than just some one claiming that Dermacrine is superior.

In my opinion both Androgel and Dermacrine are over priced.

where can you buy DHEA at a health food store? and isn't androgel a lot more expensive than dermacrine?

 

[bigcats]

Andro gel is pure crap bro. Call a compounding pharmacist and they will tell you the same thing.The amount that gets absorbed is low. I am on hrt, i go with the shots.400mg of cyp a week,plus 1000 units of hcg a week,1mg of arimidex 3 times a week. What your octor is going to neglect to tell you is your nuts will eventually shrink up from the gel.Thats why you need hcg. When your body gets any extra test your feed back loop to the brain tells your nuts to shut down.Take it from me i have been on hrt for 2 years. I hope this helps.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Andro gel is pure crap bro. Call a compounding pharmacist and they will tell you the same thing.The amount that gets absorbed is low. I am on hrt, i go with the shots.400mg of testosterone cypionate a week,plus 1000 units of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - a week,1mg of arimidex 3 times a week. What your octor is going to neglect to tell you is your nuts will eventually shrink up from the gel.Thats why you need HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . When your body gets any extra test your feed back loop to the brain tells your nuts to shut down.Take it from me i have been on hrt for 2 years. I hope this helps.

That's got to be either self administered or through one of the online "clinics." Even the dexx dose is on the steep side. I've never known of a doc who would recommend that high a dosage of either test or H.CG.

 

[alanchiras]

At the very least, Testim is absorbed better than Androgel in clinical trials. I'm signed talent with The Morgan Agency and they wanted me to be in a commercial for Androgel. It would have been good money, but I don't think it's very good either and I did not do the ad. BTW, although they say to apply it on the arms and tummy, you will get better results if you apply it to the insides of your upper legs. DON'T think about trying it on your "Balls". It will hurt like HELL.

Thanks! Alan Chiras.

 

[jhondo]

Agree with all who posted so far. Been using Androgel for about three weeks and have noticed no feelable improvements, either in body composition, sex drive, or general well being. It's basically useless, in my limited experience, and certainly not even close to being worth the price.

Perhaps if one's test levels are extremely (and I do mean extremely) low it may be of value since something is better than nothing.

Great forum by the way. Look forward to visiting often.

 

[D_Mac]

What makes dermacrine better than androgel? Androgel contains legit "bio-identical" Testosterone.

Dermacrine contains: Pregnenolone, DHEA, 7,8 Benzoflavone, Chrysin, Resveratol. Nothing here that you can not get at a good health food store.

Just want to hear why anyone would be better off with Dermacrine as opposed to Androgel. Lab results are much more convincing than just some one claiming that Dermacrine is superior.

In my opinion both Androgel and Dermacrine are over priced.

If he wants to run gear then getting the injectible is best, and then save the dose for a while and then do your cycle.

But if he is going to use androgel he isn't going to get a whole lot out of it, and it is going to suppress his system. The Dermacrine will help his body up it's androgenic hormones, including testosterone, a little more naturally. How much so? Depends on how much he's taking of each and his own body. If he's lookin for a cycle the injectable is the best way to go. But if he's lookin to get a legal bodybuilding supp he might benefit just as much or more from the dermacrine.

They did do blood tests with Dermacrine, they were posted on the forum (use the search function). It shot testosterone levels up pretty high above the starting levels. Androgel on the other hand is designed to keep you at baseline. Once he takes it his own production will drop off and he'll end up where he started but his testes won't be makin it.

And you can get all the ingredients at the store, but check the bioavaliability of those ingredients when taken orally, it's not high.

And all the enzymes that convert DHEA to the anabolic hormones are in the skin, that's why it's in a transdermal.

So you could go buy the ingredients one by one and take them orally and not get shit out of it. Or you can take the ingredients and try to formulate your own transdermal delivery system in the bathtub. Or you can just go on Hormone Replacement Therapy right now with Androgel, but that stuff isn't going to give you gains unless you have no natural test production.


Or you can change to the injectible stuff, and while you wait to gather your little weekly doses into a respectable cycle over the next couple months, use dermacrine to boost your test up in the mean time.

 

[heavy_duty]

I have a script for the gel.
$100.00 per box.
does nothing for bodybuilding.
one side is that I wake up with a hard-on about 3-5 times harder than normal!

PITA rubbing that goo on my shoulders too.

ps. do not rub it on your ballz or arse.

I tried to scam my doctor and get him to prescribe me gear. He came back with this. I'm to apply this to my upper arm/shoulders once a day. Four pumps equals 5g or 50mg. Is it worth my time? Any suggestions on what I could/should request him to prescribe me?

Thx Bros

FrEaKsHo
36/5'10"/180

 

[bigcats]

That's got to be either self administered or through one of the online "clinics." Even the dexx dose is on the steep side. I've never known of a doc who would recommend that high a dosage of either test or H.CG.

Sorry to hear that brother.But i see a doctor personally for this. I have had chemotherapy for three years and screwed up my system.My doctor has been playining with my numbers for two years now. I have finally got my ratio of testosterone to estrogen right. Rememb er their is total test and free test. Free test is what actually gets absorbed.I still stand by androgel is crap.peace bro

 

[mattdan]

Sorry to hear that brother.But i see a doctor personally for this. I have had chemotherapy for three years and screwed up my system.My doctor has been playining with my numbers for two years now. I have finally got my ratio of testosterone to estrogen right. Rememb er their is total test and free test. Free test is what actually gets absorbed.I still stand by androgel is crap.peace bro

i've had hrt prescribed as well. That is an unusually high dose of test. It has to be about 4X the typical amount prescribed.

 

[FrEaKsHo]

hey bros...

Well this is what happened so far... I did a few weeks of AndroGel. I told him what you said. He then gave me the Androderm patch to try. It delivers 2.5 mg/day. I then did that for a week and told him I wanted to try injectables because the patch did not seem to work. He prescribed me Testosterone Enan 200MG/ML. I did not want to sound too interested so I did not even ask how much or how long I take it. I will find that out when I go back in two weeks. They kept the bottle... They said that is how they administer it until they have the right amount me for me. I still have about 50 patches left and 1 pump of the gel. I will use that later when they allow me to take the Test Enan home. I will let you guys know asap... Thx for all the good info bros.

FrEaKshHo
37/180/5'10

 

[FrEaKsHo]

ok bros... quick update. the doctor has me on 1ml of test enan every 14 days... he will not let me take the bottle home yet. its been about 4 wks. i have not noticed much size, but im rock solid atm. my wieght has gone up 4 lbs.

FrEaKsHo
37/184/5'10

 

[kyoshi6]

get him to change you to injections. if he's willing to give you test gel.. then he should be willing to give you injections... it's the same medication... just different method. tell him you are worried about your gf/wife getting the cream on her... and that sh'e worried about it too and now she doesn't wanna sleep with you and you don't wanna have to comprimise your sex life or risk your gf/wife's health!! which is a actual risk and concern with the transdermal test!!

That sounds like it would work bro so I tried that response many months ago and the reply I got was that I should apply it in the mornings before work if I was afraid of that happening. When I asked for the injections he told me that it was hard on my liver and didnt want to go that route. Sooo...I changed drs. and am good to go now.

 

[jhondo]

ok bros... quick update. the doctor has me on 1ml of test enan every 14 days... he will not let me take the bottle home yet. its been about 4 wks. i have not noticed much size, but im rock solid atm. my wieght has gone up 4 lbs.

FrEaKsHo
37/184/5'10

Good deal but he may adjust the frequency based on what you tell him over your next couple visits. Remember though that a doc or HRT specialist will never give you a true cycle amount or frequency and they won't let your test levels get super high. They might shoot for "high normal" but that's about it.

Something is better than nothing though. At least that's what I figure and I'm in the same boat you are.

 

[gslben]

My doctor left me alone in his office once. Filled my pockets with samples.....all I did was smell like aloe vera for a few weeks.

Oh to be young...lol

 

[njmuscleguy]

ok bros... quick update. the doctor has me on 1ml of test enan every 14 days... he will not let me take the bottle home yet. its been about 4 wks. i have not noticed much size, but im rock solid atm. my wieght has gone up 4 lbs.

FrEaKsHo
37/184/5'10

you'll want to dose that 1/2 ml every 7 days for more stable blood levels (less spiking / crashing)... talk to your doctor about that