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did anyone see AC's show last thursday night?

he reported on the s-l-o-w "recovery" that new orleans is making after the combined destruction of hurricane katrina and the mass flooding caused by the defective corps of engineer's faulty levvie system.

he also has showed the politicans here for the incompetent asshats they are.
 
He's a great reporter. He's one of the few people who will call people out. The week after the hurricane, he was nailing people in Missouri for being clueless about how to handle the simple tasks such as food and water distribution.
 
him and CNN opened the flood gates after Orleans to be critical of those in Power here.

its what allowed the beginings of the Iraq Question
 
Nawlins is just another third world city now. Get over it. There will be no more America as we know it until the people restore order.
 
DJ_UFO said:
Nawlins is just another third world city now. Get over it. There will be no more America as we know it until the people restore order.
get over it?


GET OVER IT?????


would you be saying this if YOUR beloved hometown got destroyed by the incompetence of a federal agency? :redhot:
 
rnch said:
get over it?


GET OVER IT?????


would you be saying this if YOUR beloved hometown got destroyed by the incompetence of a federal agency? :redhot:

the difference in mindsets here is as follows:
NO peeps blame the gov't
people who don't live there blame a large body of water also known as a flood.
you can't blame the gov't for weather bro, you just can't
 
rnch said:
get over it?


GET OVER IT?????


would you be saying this if YOUR beloved hometown got destroyed by the incompetence of a federal agency? :redhot:

i can only imagine the horror of looking out the window and seeing a 30 foot surge of incompetence rushing towards the city
 
nimbus said:
i can only imagine the horror of looking out the window and seeing a 30 foot surge of rushing water due to the incompetence of the federal corps of engineers rushing towards the city
corrected.
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
fuck you gotmilk, missouri rules

Yeah..except it took them a week to figure out how to continue moving stuff down the Mississippi when everyone else was already moving.
 
Gambino said:
the difference in mindsets here is as follows:
NO peeps blame the gov't
people who don't live there blame a large body of water also known as a flood.
you can't blame the gov't for weather bro, you just can't

(sigh)

one more time.......

the city of new orleans survived hurricane katrina.

the flood damage happened the next day...when the levvies BUILT AND MAINTAINED THE UNITED STATES CORPS OF ENGINEERS failed. the levvies were shoddily built and not built to the height the Corps Of Engineers assured everyone they were SUPPOSED to be.

YOUR TAX DOLLARS (supposidly) built these levvies.

YOUR TAX DOLLARS (supposidly) maintained these levvies.

now....

YOUR TAX DOLLARS will have to be spent to re-build these levvies and put them back to the height the Corps Of Engineers assured everyone for years they were at.


YOUR TAX DOLLARS!!!!
 
I think people expect too much out of their government. Granted, with the taxes we pay, we should get excellent benefits in return. Unfortunately it just doesn't happen so people need to be prepared to take care of themselves.
 
Anyone that lives below sea level is tempting fate. I hate to see my tax dollars wasted to rebuild a city that should never have been built there in the first place.
 
rnch said:
get over it?


GET OVER IT?????


would you be saying this if YOUR beloved hometown got destroyed by the incompetence of a federal agency? :redhot:


I am not a fan of FEMA's response. BUT, If you are going to point fingers at government, then point at the State of Louisiana. I lived in New Orleans for a while. That place was the arm-pit of America Pre-Katrina.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
Anyone that lives below sea level is tempting fate. I hate to see my tax dollars wasted to rebuild a city that should never have been built there in the first place.
following showing your line of (so-called) logic...washington d.c. is below sea level, built on a tidal plane, so is much of long island, ny...why should your/mine/our tax dollars be "wasted" to protect these cities "built below sea level...tempting fate"?
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
entropy doesnt end at the nawlinz city limits.
true that! FEMA and the United States Corps of Engineers prove what you say and President Bush proves it. :worried:
 
I think others have a point when they say it was a failure on all levels. Local, state & federal.

http://hurricane.lsu.edu/_in_the_news/houston.htm

Written in 2001

A consortium of local, state and federal agencies is studying a $2 billion to $3 billion plan to divert sediment from the Mississippi River back into the delta. Because the river is leveed all the way to the Gulf, where sediment is dumped into deep water, nothing is left to replenish the receding delta.
Other possible projects include restoration of barrier reefs and perhaps a large gate to prevent Lake Pontchartrain from overflowing and drowning the city.
All are multibillion-dollar projects. A plan to restore the Florida Everglades attracted $4 billion in federal funding, but the state had to match it dollar for dollar. In Louisiana, so far, there's only been a willingness to match 15 or 25 cents.
"Our state still looks for a 100 percent federal bailout, but that's just not going to happen," said University of New Orleans geologist Shea Penland, a delta expert.



I personally blame the 'tax cuts by any means necessary' attitude that has pervated american society. People clamor for tax cuts after tax cuts after tax cuts then infrastructure goes to shit because there is no funding for it. I personally will take a 35% tax rate with a stable national debt, good infrastructure and good social programs over a 31% tax rate and a massive debt, shitty infrastructure and struggling programs any day of the week.
 
Lao Tzu said:
I think others have a point when they say it was a failure on all levels. Local, state & federal.

http://hurricane.lsu.edu/_in_the_news/houston.htm

Written in 2001

A consortium of local, state and federal agencies is studying a $2 billion to $3 billion plan to divert sediment from the Mississippi River back into the delta. Because the river is leveed all the way to the Gulf, where sediment is dumped into deep water, nothing is left to replenish the receding delta.
Other possible projects include restoration of barrier reefs and perhaps a large gate to prevent Lake Pontchartrain from overflowing and drowning the city.
All are multibillion-dollar projects. A plan to restore the Florida Everglades attracted $4 billion in federal funding, but the state had to match it dollar for dollar. In Louisiana, so far, there's only been a willingness to match 15 or 25 cents.
"Our state still looks for a 100 percent federal bailout, but that's just not going to happen," said University of New Orleans geologist Shea Penland, a delta expert.



I personally blame the 'tax cuts by any means necessary' attitude that has pervated american society. People clamor for tax cuts after tax cuts after tax cuts then infrastructure goes to shit because there is no funding for it. I personally will take a 35% tax rate with a stable national debt, good infrastructure and good social programs over a 31% tax rate and a massive debt, shitty infrastructure and struggling programs any day of the week.
believe me, i am no defender of nawlinz's mayor or louisaana's govonor.



BUT......


IF the United States Corps Of Engineers, a federal agency, had done their job correctly and competently, the shoddily built, ineffective, height challenged flood levvies would had NOT failed and the city would NOT had been flooded.
 
The army corps of engineers, to my understanding, wanted to build levees. But the 'budget conscious' DC politicians decided it was pork. Both Clinton & Bush cut Levee infrastructure.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/Sept05/030905levees.htm

WHich again ties into what I was talking about earlier about tax cuts by any means necessary. THis is what happens when people want to pay the smallest amount humanely possible in taxes, something has to give. In this instance it was levee infrastructure.
 
rnch said:
true that! FEMA and the United States Corps of Engineers prove what you say and President Bush proves it. :worried:

I just meant the water is being held a bit higher elevation than it wants to be, so sooner or later gravity wins...

Ask Frisky and her adjustable "bring them up from your waist'' bras
 
well, the bottom line is: it's going to cost the American taxpayers a LOT more money to rebuild what we were told was there in the first place.
 
rnch said:
well, the bottom line is: it's going to cost the American taxpayers a LOT more money to rebuild what we were told was there in the first place.

is their gators floating around the flooded out areas?
what about snakes?
 
Gambino said:
is their gators floating around the flooded out areas?
what about snakes?
beats the hell outta me....not my part of town.
 
rnch said:
believe me, i am no defender of nawlinz's mayor or louisaana's govonor.



BUT......


IF the United States Corps Of Engineers, a federal agency, had done their job correctly and competently, the shoddily built, ineffective, height challenged flood levvies would had NOT failed and the city would NOT had been flooded.

Or, perhaps the Feds don't give a shit about N.O., or the region, excluding the Port of N.O. and access the oil fields in the Gulf.
 
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