should galveston/houston be rebuilt??

[rnch]

why should or tax dollars be used to reuild any area below sea level that keeps getting flooded from mother nature?

tawk amongst yo'selves.......



































OF COURSE i don't believe this...just a satire on the IDIOTS who said new orleans should not be rebuilt after the faulty levies built and maintained by the United States Corps of Engineers failed and flooded the city the day after hurricane katrina filled them full of water.

 

[BNG]

I'll maintain the same view as before. If it's below sea level it's a disaster waiting to happen.again and again and.......

 

[nefertiti]

I'll maintain the same view as before. If it's below sea level it's a disaster waiting to happen.again and again and.......

Why should our tax dollars be used to rebuild florida after hurricanes? Cali after quakes? The midwest after tornados? Those people should know better than to live in an area like that!

 

[-SD-]

yes, whats good for chocolate city is good for redneck city.

I will be claiming the cost of 3 cans of fix-a-flat for FEMA and I expect to be compensated with tax dollars

 

[*ebony*]

Why should our tax dollars be used to rebuild florida after hurricanes? Cali after quakes? The midwest after tornados? Those people should know better than to live in an area like that!

i was thinking the same thing, people need a place to live......

 

[gotmilk]

Yes, rebuild so the trash does not move North....

 

[rnch]

and what about all the areas of the mid-west that got flooded this past spring and summer?

 

[nimbus]

they should all have to pay crazy high flood insurance

 

[rnch]

galveston, houston, and florida hurricanes, mid-west tornadoes, california earthquakes...these were all the result of natural disasters.

the flooding of new orleans was an UN-natural disaster, brought on by faulty levies built and maintained by the Unites States Corps of Engineers, a FEDERAL agency.


IF....


IF....

IF the FEDERALLY built and maintained levies had actually been built and maintained to the FEDERALLY PROMISED AND ASSUMED specifications; new orleans would had been high and dry in august of 2005.


tawk amongst yo'selves about FEDERAL liability here.

 

[txbondsman]

Why should our tax dollars be used to rebuild florida after hurricanes? Cali after quakes? The midwest after tornados? Those people should know better than to live in an area like that!

if you live below sea level, and yo shit floods, sorry. If you live on the side of a mountain, and it's known to be a fire area or prone to mudslides, sorry. If you live on the coast and you have hurricane damage, sorry. YOU get insurance if you can get it, but federal dollars, oh HELL no. I don't feel like paying for stupidity OR vanity, whatever keeps you living there.

Here's the reason not to rebuild parts of NO, look at how many feet it's BELOW sea level.

Wikkipedia: New Orleans, Louisiana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On the other hand, a report by the American Society of Civil Engineers claims that "New Orleans is subsiding (sinking)":[29]

“ Large portions of Orleans, St. Bernard, and Jefferson parishes are currently below sea level — and continue to sink. New Orleans is built on thousands of feet of soft sand, silt, and clay. Subsidence, or settling of the ground surface, occurs naturally due to the consolidation and oxidation of organic soils (called “marsh” in New Orleans) and local groundwater pumping. In the past, flooding and deposition of sediments from the Mississippi River counterbalanced the natural subsidence, leaving southeast Louisiana at or above sea level. However, due to major flood control structures being built upstream on the Mississippi River and levees being built around New Orleans, fresh layers of sediment are not replenishing the ground lost by subsidence.[29] ”

Vertical cross-section of New Orleans, showing maximum levee height of 23 feet (7 m).A recent study by Tulane and Xavier University notes that 51% of New Orleans is at or above sea level, with the more densely populated areas generally on higher ground. The average elevation of the city is currently between one and two feet (0.5 m) below sea level, with some portions of the city as high as 16 feet (5 m) at the base of the river levee in Uptown and others as low as 10 feet (3 m) below sea level in the farthest reaches of Eastern New Orleans. [30]

 

[rnch]

ya'll seem to forget the city of new orleans did not flood because of hurricane katrina.

the city flooded the day AFTER hurricane katrina passed close to the city.

the city of new orleans flooded because of the FAILURE of the FEDERAL levies built and maintained by the United States Corps of Engineers, a FEDERAL agency.

 

[nimbus]

galveston, houston, and florida hurricanes, mid-west tornadoes, california earthquakes...these were all the result of natural disasters.

the flooding of new orleans was an UN-natural disaster, brought on by faulty levies built and maintained by the Unites States Corps of Engineers, a FEDERAL agency.


IF....


IF....

IF the FEDERALLY built and maintained levies had actually been built and maintained to the FEDERALLY PROMISED AND ASSUMED specifications; new orleans would had been high and dry in august of 2005.


tawk amongst yo'selves about FEDERAL liability here.

what would have happened if no levies were ever built?

 

[nefertiti]

if you live below sea level, and yo shit floods, sorry. If you live on the side of a mountain, and it's known to be a fire area or prone to mudslides, sorry. If you live on the coast and you have hurricane damage, sorry. YOU get insurance if you can get it, but federal dollars, oh HELL no. I don't feel like paying for stupidity OR vanity, whatever keeps you living there.

Here's the reason not to rebuild parts of NO, look at how many feet it's BELOW sea level.

Wikkipedia: New Orleans, Louisiana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On the other hand, a report by the American Society of Civil Engineers claims that "New Orleans is subsiding (sinking)":[29]

“ Large portions of Orleans, St. Bernard, and Jefferson parishes are currently below sea level — and continue to sink. New Orleans is built on thousands of feet of soft sand, silt, and clay. Subsidence, or settling of the ground surface, occurs naturally due to the consolidation and oxidation of organic soils (called “marsh” in New Orleans) and local groundwater pumping. In the past, flooding and deposition of sediments from the Mississippi River counterbalanced the natural subsidence, leaving southeast Louisiana at or above sea level. However, due to major flood control structures being built upstream on the Mississippi River and levees being built around New Orleans, fresh layers of sediment are not replenishing the ground lost by subsidence.[29] ”

Vertical cross-section of New Orleans, showing maximum levee height of 23 feet (7 m).A recent study by Tulane and Xavier University notes that 51% of New Orleans is at or above sea level, with the more densely populated areas generally on higher ground. The average elevation of the city is currently between one and two feet (0.5 m) below sea level, with some portions of the city as high as 16 feet (5 m) at the base of the river levee in Uptown and others as low as 10 feet (3 m) below sea level in the farthest reaches of Eastern New Orleans. [30]

Clearly, you and I maintain completely different philosophies in life when it comes to helping one another.

I also find it very arrogant to think anyone has the right to tell someone else that their home, their history, their culture, isn't worth saving.

 

[redguru]

Clearly, you and I maintain completely different philosophies in life when it comes to helping one another.

I also find it very arrogant to think anyone has the right to tell someone else that their home, their history, their culture, isn't worth saving.

Helping one another is one thing, forcing someone to help another is another. I feel all victims should be allowed one trip to the trough. If you aren't suitably insured and prepared the next time around, shame on you.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

what would have happened if no levies were ever built?

Catfish would be living where Burbon Street was/is/might be.

Works for me? Nope, well maybe. But I think people should be livin in a place that is free from crime, poverty, bad weather, and most of all stupid people proof. I don't like mean people either.

 

[nefertiti]

Helping one another is one thing, forcing someone to help another is another. I feel all victims should be allowed one trip to the trough. If you aren't suitably insured and prepared the next time around, shame on you.

I agree about insurance, but a lot of the repair work being done down there is infrastructure, public space. A lot of people will never go back there, and it can't be left looking like a war zone. Not one person in the entire country was actually burdened by any federal money that went towards that. Hell, I probably contributed more than 99% of the country.

 

[txbondsman]

Clearly, you and I maintain completely different philosophies in life when it comes to helping one another.

I also find it very arrogant to think anyone has the right to tell someone else that their home, their history, their culture, isn't worth saving.

Oh Idk, I'm presently on 3 different service related organizations that help poor, I have for years raised money for several charities, the Shriners Camp for Crippled Children, Shriners Burn Center, and others. I take in broken bikes, mostly from Wal-mart and fix them for the needy kids at X-mas time. Last year we fixed about 35 bikes, tricycles, and other toys. I'm almost 50 so that's about 30 years worth of charitable work.

Why is it "arrogant" not to want to keep rebuilding somebodies house because they want to be living in Malabu or some other Cali area that burns or slides down the mountain just so they can say they live in the hollywood hills? I think THAT's arrogant. It's just plain assanine to live below sea level and think that the government should keep building and re-building, for what? It's below sea level for Christ's sake! IT'S GONNA FLOOD! AGAIN!!It looks like they would get tired of losing their shit to flooding, I would. I'd WANT to leave. But if they don't want to, well, that's their fault. Arrogant? I guess so.

 

[rnch]

i don't recall reading anything about people living on land built on the below sea level, tidal flood plane of land AKA Washington, D. C. leaving.........

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

Oh Idk, I'm presently on 3 different service related organizations that help poor, I have for years raised money for several charities, the Shriners Camp for Crippled Children, Shriners Burn Center, and others. I take in broken bikes, mostly from Wal-mart and fix them for the needy kids at X-mas time. Last year we fixed about 35 bikes, tricycles, and other toys. I'm almost 50 so that's about 30 years worth of charitable work.

Why is it "arrogant" not to want to keep rebuilding somebodies house because they want to be living in Malabu or some other Cali area that burns or slides down the mountain just so they can say they live in the hollywood hills? I think THAT's arrogant. It's just plain assanine to live below sea level and think that the government should keep building and re-building, for what? It's below sea level for Christ's sake! IT'S GONNA FLOOD! AGAIN!!It looks like they would get tired of losing their shit to flooding, I would. I'd WANT to leave. But if they don't want to, well, that's their fault. Arrogant? I guess so.

I lost everything in my mobile home in the tornado, I put it right back here cause I lived here the last 20 years and every year I get a new single wide!

pretty smart I think...

 

[billfred]

1) Houston nor Galveston are below sea level. Remember they put in a wall to make Galveston 15ft above sea level.

2) I seriously doubt there will be many people from Tx living in hotel rooms for six months wanting more government handouts until they can get a new house handed to them.

3) I doubt there will be much federal help at all with this one. Texas has it's own money so why would you ask that complete shit outfit of FEMA to get involved.

4) Texans are survivors and will move on quite quickly. In 60 days this will be cleaned up and will never make news again.

 

[txbondsman]

i don't recall reading anything about people living on land built on the below sea level, tidal flood plane of land AKA Washington, D. C. leaving.........

you would have if it ever flooded...

 

[rnch]

you would have if it ever flooded...

just wait, give it time....other places in our country have flooded the past couple of years that never flooded before.....why should THIS below sea level tidal flood plane village be expempt from the wrath of mother nature (or shoddily build federal flood control projects, for that matter)?

 

[SpyWizard]

You are referring to flood insurance that is federally issued, and a premium is charged, or rather all people that own insurance pay for the ability for these area's to get insurance..


What about all the looting and rapes and rioting.. damn i hate those red necks..

again.. satire and sarcasm.. it's hard to get across in the written word alone..

 

[nimbus]

Catfish would be living where Burbon Street was/is/might be.

Works for me? Nope, well maybe. But I think people should be livin in a place that is free from crime, poverty, bad weather, and most of all stupid people proof. I don't like mean people either.

I think it's kind of silly then to blame the federal gov. for NO flooding then if they're the only thing stopping it from becoming atlantis

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

I think it's kind of silly then to blame the federal gov. for NO flooding then if they're the only thing stopping it from becoming atlantis

the peeps in LA are blamin. We had a ton of em here in the DFW area the crime rate went through the roof, they were everywhere. And there were a lot of people here that had 12 or more of the 2k debit cards when they were arrested. Not a bad hit, but, they were still steelin...

I just don't get it. love where ya live but make sure it's not a fishin pond.

 

[Mr. dB]

why should or tax dollars be used to reuild any area below sea level that keeps getting flooded from mother nature?

tawk amongst yo'selves........

I love it, a parody thread three years later.

Of course there'll be no question of rebuilding Galveston, since there's white people there.

 

[gotmilk]

since there's white people there.

WAS...

lot of Messicans and turds too now.

 

[BNG]

why should our tax dollars be used to rebuild florida after hurricanes? Cali after quakes? The midwest after tornados? Those people should know better than to live in an area like that!

absofukinlutely!

 

[rnch]

I love it, a parody thread three years later.....

3 years' later, President Bush's promises of restoring what the shoddily built Corps of Engineer's levies destroyed had turned into a parody...

 

[txbondsman]

damn, I though that the Corps of Engineer's guy said he was standing behind one of the retaining walls that was keeping Gustav from flooding the damn place all over again, and they were holding. I believe he said they were still building on the 200 plus miles or so, the part that keeps the other 49% that's under sea level from washing away. again.....











damn government.

 

[txbondsman]

I love it, a parody thread three years later.

Of course there'll be no question of rebuilding Galveston, since there's white people there.

damn, RNCH, HHC and beachboy, sorry, yall have to leave NO, only blacks allowed says DB....

 

[guest username]

Why should our tax dollars be used to rebuild florida after hurricanes? Cali after quakes? The midwest after tornados? Those people should know better than to live in an area like that!

Exactly. Every part of the country has its own risks (flooding, tornadoes, earthquakes, hurricanes, brush fires, etc.).

Unfortunately New Orleans will never be the same. I really enjoyed the city.

 

[Beachboy6294]

they should all have to pay crazy high flood insurance

I know I do pay crazy amounts!!!

My mom's house just after Ike on the MS Coast!!
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/chrisjaye12/FloodFrontOfHouse.jpg

I have my daughter's Dora Floaties about to make the 2 mile journey to my SUV parked on the main hwy. I had to take my nephew to his homecoming game and wanted to make sure it was ok.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/chrisjaye12/2006_0101FloodSeptemberIKE0004.jpg

 

[Beachboy6294]

the peeps in LA are blamin. We had a ton of em here in the DFW area the crime rate went through the roof, they were everywhere. And there were a lot of people here that had 12 or more of the 2k debit cards when they were arrested. Not a bad hit, but, they were still steelin...

I just don't get it. love where ya live but make sure it's not a fishin pond.

Oh yes we are all gangsta and stealing here in Louisiana and abusing the Feds!. I don't think so!! The problem with the people that evacuated to Dallas and Houston on the buses are the poor mixed with many felons! Most of us in Louisiana in known for our hospitality and we work hard for everything we have. That's why it's so hard for us to our homes when there is a hurricane in our path. I got my 1 2k card and I was very appreciative of that card but of course the criminals are going to find ways in any state to get free money if they can. It's not like I made money and I had good insurance but it hurt to lose the many thinks like pictures and military stuff that I can't get back because I was out of the state during Katrina. When I bought my house it was shown that it's on high enough ground where I didn't need flood insurance but I went ahead and got it anyways. Then when we bought these homes the Federal Government promised us that these levees were able to withstand these hurricanes and come to findout they breached due to poor building. We didn't need all these levees until the government built the Mr Go for all these ships to transport goods up the MS for all of the US.

Gustov and Ike didn't do to much damage to my house this time but if it did I would build again. This is why I pay such high insurance payments because I was raised here and love everything about this place which if you aren't from here you can't understand! It's not just New Orleans either we had flooding all the way from Daulpin Island, AL to the TX coast. We had major damage in Baton Rouge are capital to Hattiesburg, MS which is a good hour and a half drive north. I spent 3 days battling the water at my Mom's house and will post pics for you to see. They expect some flooding and pay a pretty penny for insurance and build their homes on pilings. Still it's hard because they really had fixed up the downstairs and you lose many things like riding lawnmower, tools, and so many other outdoor things.

Some of you will not even bother to read all this but all I'm asking is to not judge all of us on some idiots and have some compassion. I know I have been to AL and OK to help after tornadoes because I feel thats the American way but sometimes I wonder too when I see the things that go on at distribution places! Well hopefully I'll be leaving to go back to work offshore any day now because I hear we have alot of damage. Peace to all!!!!

 

[Beachboy6294]

I'm going to have contest to give away all my K if anyone has any ideas let me know!

 

[NEO1]

Wow! Glad everyone is ok. At least she was smart and I am assuming most of her stuff is ok due to the design of the house.



Cute floaties

I know I do pay crazy amounts!!!

My mom's house just after Ike on the MS Coast!!
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/chrisjaye12/FloodFrontOfHouse.jpg

I have my daughter's Dora Floaties about to make the 2 mile journey to my SUV parked on the main hwy. I had to take my nephew to his homecoming game and wanted to make sure it was ok.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/chrisjaye12/2006_0101FloodSeptemberIKE0004.jpg

 

[Beachboy6294]

Wow I just bet about 2 million of K in the bookie forum