Ancillary help

[Pat_McCrotch]

Ok this will be my third cycle I am going to start in 3-4 weeks when i get all my gear:

Sust 250 @ 500/wk
Deca 400/wk
I wanna use primo but it cost so damn much
maybe primo at 400mg/wk


What should I use post and during my cycle. I have AIFM plano on usng that as well. Thanks in advance

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

In place of primo adding winny oral 50 mg a day. Would proviron be a good add to help as ancillary?

 

[brino]

probably but run letro pct with the aifm and id use winny the last 6 or so, what was your time plan 10 weeks?

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

probably but run letro pct with the aifm and id use winny the last 6 or so, what was your time plan 10 weeks?

Yea 10 weeks. left that out. So your saying winny oral lst 6 weeks? What is letro? Where do i get it?

 

[needtogetaas]

run aifm threw out the cycle.also run hcg threw out the cycle.use Dermacrine alone
for pct.have some dostinex on hand in case of gyno from the Prolactin that deca can cause.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Thanks need. Is this a good cycle for adding quality hard looking muscle?

 

[needtogetaas]

Thanks need. Is this a good cycle for adding quality hard looking muscle?

if your diet and training is on point then hell yes...

deit,training,aas,pct in that order bro.... there are better cycles for harder looking muscle but this will do fine.

 

[Varga]

Ok this will be my third cycle I am going to start in 3-4 weeks when i get all my gear:

Sust 250 @ 500/wk
Deca 400/wk
I wanna use primo but it cost so damn much
maybe primo at 400mg/wk


What should I use post and during my cycle. I have AIFM plano on usng that as well. Thanks in advance

Primo is best at 500mg/week or above.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

What other cycles would you reccomend to get harder that I can do after this one.

 

[needtogetaas]

drop the deca add 60mg var ed for the last six weeks.

how long of a cycle you doing with the sust250 12 weeks???

just remember hardening cutting has a lot to do with diet.

 

[Varga]

What other cycles would you reccomend to get harder that I can do after this one.

Test/Eq/var
Test/Eq/tren

 

[needtogetaas]

Test/Eq/var
Test/Eq/tren

var

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Yea 12 weeks and I will dial in my diet to do it right. Isnt var more toxic to the liver the most other orals?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Yea 12 weeks and I will dial in my diet to do it right. Isnt var more toxic to the liver the most other orals?

typically less.

 

[Varga]

Yea 12 weeks and I will dial in my diet to do it right. Isnt var more toxic to the liver the most other orals?

Nah, you must be thinking about Anadrol

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

maybe I am. SO var seems to be an orla of choice by most of yall for hardening muscles. Now running var provi and winny with some test, would be a good cutting cycle or is it too much? Had a bad experience with EQ. Didnt get much out of it and I abscessed maybe 4-5 times out of my 12 week cycle.

 

[Varga]

maybe I am. SO var seems to be an orla of choice by most of yall for hardening muscles. Now running var provi and winny with some test, would be a good cutting cycle or is it too much? Had a bad experience with EQ. Didnt get much out of it and I abscessed maybe 4-5 times out of my 12 week cycle.

Good stack if you are an intermediate because this will dry you out, keep the test low under 500mg/week. Better stack is to use primo instead of winny

What happened to your EQ cycle?

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Good stack if you are an intermediate because this will dry you out, keep the test low under 500mg/week. Better stack is to use primo instead of winny

What happened to your EQ cycle?

When does one become an intermediate. I am on my 3 rd cycle over the past 1.5 years.

 

[Varga]

When does one become an intermediate. I am on my 3 rd cycle over the past 1.5 years.

Usually after 5+ cycles simple cycles where you do not get results anymore and you need to move to multiple compounds to get results. It is a trial and error period to see what works and what doesn't for you so you do not have a bad reaction to something when you mix 3 compounds and do not know which one is causing a rush or gyno.
Begining period is usually using one compound and subsequently two compounds mix.

 

[D_Mac]

run aifm threw out the cycle.also run hcg threw out the cycle.use Dermacrine alone
for pct.have some dostinex on hand in case of gyno from the Prolactin that deca can cause.

Good advice. With the HCG you will be ok running it for a few weeks mid cycle, and stop taking the HCG 2 weeks before the end of the cycle. This way the HCG keeps the testes going but then taking the HCG away sensitizes the testes to LH so that as soon as you are off and start the dermacrine the testes will jump back up and respond much stronger to your natural LH release.