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Anavar Only Cycle - Final Results

scorpion_X

scorpion_X

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Cycle Info: (1st cycle for me)
Chosen for lean mass gain + safety

Lost my other handle - away on vacation for >3weeks...oh well

Week 1-8: 30mg/ED papervar
Week 9-10: 20mg/ED papervar
Week 1-10: 15mg/ED creatine
PCT 4 weeks
(trib, ZMA, creatine)


W: start (155) peak(172) current (168)
BF: 7-10% (estimate - all abs, obliques visible)
*increased thickness in all major muscle groups especially arms/back

Strength: increase across the board (maintaining most)

Pumps/Vasc: noticable increase (less of a shock now as I am accustomer to seeing)

Sides: few pimples around weeks 3-6
soap and water, pore cleanser and tanning eliminated
hair - very very little shedding
appetite remained pretty much normal
slight increase in good ol' libido

I'm very pleased with the results - papervar is truly awesome.
 
awesome scorpion! i am on my second cycle of PV only. i upped from 40mg/day from first cycle to 50mg this cycle. after one week i have added 3 lbs. i don't know what it is but going to the gym is way more fun when on cycle.

there was another post about many newbies starting off with var or primo because of the safety factor and (with var) the fear of needles. after a cycle or two many move into other AASs like test.

this is very insightful. now after seeing what var can do i am more and more curious about other roids. i guess var is the "gateway" drug for AASs! that is how they hook us.
 
im on a 50mg/ed of papevar for 10 weeks day 8 and lookin good
 
No cycle history - this was my first one

Age = 32

I gained a very small amount of body fat since I was very lean at the start.
I kept my protein intake fairly high (1.5 - 2 grams/pound) throughout the cycle.
I also think the high creatine amount was making me retain a little bit of water.

My waist went from a "loose" 29 inches to a "tight" 29 inches based on how my pants now fit.
 
glennds/wootum:

I totally agree - the results came very fast with a steady progression!

I was only originally expecting 5-10 pounds gain.

I gained over 5 lbs the first 3 weeks and the pumps were awesome.

Being lean to begin with my vascularity really stood out especially in my arms and shoulders when I was working out - certainly generated a few stares in the gym.

Most of the comments I got from friends (who did not know I was using) were about how "thick" I looked.
 
i cant wait to do mine!!!!!anavar and primo...maybe a little sust also...im getting impatient waiting...:D :D good to see your results i hope mine are good to:)
 
I am pumped also to do the anavar only cycle. But i am having trouble choosing a brand. I had a spot for source for BTG but as usual it fell through.

So i am debatibg on papervar, so far it looks good.

JK
 
i ran my first cycle of PV with no PCT. i even went and ordered clomid but decided against it. i had absolutely no side effects PC.
 
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Scorpion you said in your post PCT for 4 weeks but I'm not sure what you were referring to. What exactly did you do for PCT? Also specifically what did you notice in terms of hair loss as I thought that Anavar didn't have any effect on hair loss since it's not test based, i.e DHT, I guess I was wrong. The hair loss issue for me is the deal breaker.
 
good to see everyone liking anavar i love it the pumps are great and im only on day 8 . keep up the good work boys. over and out
 
When I origninally was planning my cycle I asked this forum about PCT for anavar and got a mixed response.

I have heard a lot of negatives about the standard clomid therapy and decided to use a few natural supplements instead.

The original plan was to use avena sativa, trib, zma and creatine to recover. I had difficulty locating any avena up here in Canada so decided to go with the others.

I didn't experience any crash at all and that fits in with the general consensus of most people I have talked to.

The hair shedding was extremely minor - maybe not even worth mentioning but I did notice a tiny bit.

My next go around I am planning to do PCT as the following:
Week 1-8: 30mg/ED anavar (I think 10 weeks is overkill)
Week 8-11: 25mg/ED proviron
Week 9-11: 20mg/ED Nolvadex
Week 12-14: 40mcg/ED Clenbuterol

This is more to dramatically increase hardness at the end of the cycle while giving the libido/natural test levels a boost. The clen is for further definition, energy and anti-catabolic effect.
 
Today is day nine for me. Did Legs on Tuesday... ready to do them again TOMORROW. With the added gPlennish the recovery times are crazy short. HAMMERED arms today, pumps were hard as flint steel. I girl I used to flirt with bumped into me on my way out of the 'heavy' room, giggled, and said 'that hurt' .

How big a confidence booster is THAT!!!

Weight is up due to mostly creatine, I would guess, as I usually dont use it, but decided to take advantage of the increased uptake while on pVar.

Added weights are remarkable, it takes a lot of will power not to keep putting them on, as I am sure ligatures are NOT ready for it.

Will take an accounting of added weights next tuesday, that will make it two weeks at 50mg/ed.
 
if you are taking in close to 2 grams of protein per pound of muscle like i am, there is no need for G-Plenish or any other glutamine products, unless you are a stinkin vegan.
 
From Anabolic Review:

The third reason which speaks well for an intake of Oxandrolone is that even in a very high dosage this compound does not influence the body's own testosterone production. To make this clear: Oxandrolone does not suppress the body's own hormone production. The reason is that it does not have a negative feedback mechanism on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis, meaning that during the intake of Oxandrolone, unlike during the intake of most anabolic steroids, the testes signal the hypothalamus not to reduce or to stop the release of GnRH (gonadotropin releasing hormone) and LHRH Luteinizing hormone releasing hormone). This special feature of Oxandrolone can be explained by the fact that the substance is not converted into estrogen Oxandrolone (Anavar), when given to normal men in high doses does not reduce the seminal volume or count, nor can it be converted (aromatized) into estrogen.
 
Andriol (testosterone undecanoate)

It is dissolved in a type of sterile oil and then sealed inside a cap. As a whole, the dissolved steroid is then easily absorbed by the lymphatic system, prior to passing the liver, and delivered with ease to the heart where it is then sent out across the body. The system itself is ingenious and in theory perfect. Maximal delivery and no hepatoxicity. A potent steroid capable of being used for long treatments. However (I'm sure you saw that one coming) in practice things don't always turn out the way they appear in theory. In studies1 done on both men and women, andriol was shown to be a mild and inconsistent steroid at best. Mild is a problem that is easily solved with higher doses, but inconsistent is another story entirely. It seems that the amount that was delivered and the peak levels of testosterone in the blood as well as the length of activity, differed not only from person to person, but from day to day. That means a different person, from day to day, will get very varying levels of testosterone in the blood. And the differences were not minor.

Stacking and Use:

Andriol doesn't have that many uses. When utilized in doses of 8-16 caps per day are used and it can obviously be stacked with most any other steroid. Water retention problems that are common with testosterone are usually controllable enough to warrant use even during cutting phases, and even if not Proviron can be added to maximize its potential. The use of ancillaries is generally not required as its very mild to begin with and most problems can be solved by discontinuing use or lowering the dose. The usual anti-estrogens can be used, but generally with the cost of andriol for what little it does makes it less appealing to invest in the likes of Nolvadex or arimidex.

Caps are best spread out throughout the day. Most oral steroids have a 17-alpha-methyl alteration that changes affinity and binding of the steroid, so that a single dose is usually enough. With andriol delivery is swift, peak doses high, but the steroid never outlasts its half-life of 3-5 hours. So it should be taken in three equal doses throughout the day, preferably with meals as lymphatic absorption is promoted in the presence of bile and other secretions in the GI tract.
 
Scor

Thanks I read that to. I also read that the anvar/androil stack. is good for beginners, because they both don't shut they don't shut the body down hard. But, androil is almost expensive as anvar. And, if you can gain 13 lbm in one cycle (congradulations) Maybe i should just start w/anvar like you.
 
Anavar only was very effective in achieving impressive gains for the first go around when combined with high protein intake and intense training.

As my first cycle I wanted to play it safe and see how my body responded.

I would love to stack Primo with anavar next go around but it is tough to come by in Canada so I am debating around using EQ. I think this will still be a relatively safe stack and one where most of the gains will be kept post cycle.
 
That's exactly how my next cycle will look like: Primo + Var. But I am still in doubt about which doses to use:

Primo 150mg to 250mg per week
Var 20 to 40mg ED

I am not after massive gains: just 10 lean pounds (retained after cycle!) would do. Any opinions as to which doses I should go for?

Age 40, weight 193, heigth 6'3
 
I think most people run primo at 600mgs / week, not sure about when taken with Var though. Can't primo cause accelerated hair loss if you have any sort of mpb. It this the same for EQ.
 
confid12000 said:
That's exactly how my next cycle will look like: Primo + Var. But I am still in doubt about which doses to use:

Primo 150mg to 250mg per week
Var 20 to 40mg ED

I am not after massive gains: just 10 lean pounds (retained after cycle!) would do. Any opinions as to which doses I should go for?

Age 40, weight 193, heigth 6'3
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Wouldn't run primo any lower than 300mgs p/w.
I'm sure Satchboogie would agree with this.
Primo is a great drug.

Remember weight gain is based more on your diet than AAS.
 
SCORP great thread!

How long are you goint to wait to start your next Anvar cycle?


GLENNDS/CHEFWIDE

Please keep us informed on your progress and thoughts as you complete this cycle.

Thanks
 
I am curious to see how "permanent" the gains and strength I made on my first anavar cycle are - so I want to hold out at least 3 months.

If I start the next cycle in April this should put me in peak condition for the start of the summer in early June.
 
Great idea. Please keep us informed on how you keep your gains.

How long have you trained?

Did you use creatine during or just post? If you used it during, did it really increase the uptake of the creatine like it is rumored to?
 
I've been training on/off for around 20 years (naturally). Wish this kind of information was availble to me 10-12 years ago.

I used creatine throughout and after so it's hard to tell how much it actually added (if any).
My strength increased dramatically and vascularity and muscle pumps were all enhanced.

I did feel the creatine was responsible for me holding some water which var is not supposed to affect.

I plan to drop the creatine during cycle next go around to see for myself.
 
SAVAGE pumps!

Had some extra time on my hands, sunday, my wife and the boys all out of town... so I got Medieval on back and arms. Heavy, heavy. Dips, elbows in, with 40kg added. That was a little scary.

Tuesday rounds out two weeks at 50mg ED, glut and creat, and I am experiencing some unusual effects. Like growth. Didnt expect that to happen. Hardening, yes, strength, of course, but i am noticibly larger accross the board, so I must assume that I react VERY favorably to paperV.

Again, recovery times are their shortest ever, much shorter than on a wee dbol/primo party I had in the fall: I attribute this mostly to a MUCH smarter diet, better monitoring of water intake, but mostly to gPlennish... I THINK?!? My recovery times from a total anhilation leg day last sunday had me doing legs again yesterday. UNREAL. thats 5 tween days instead of 8 or 9.

Is this the var? I havent read anything about unusual changes in recovery time with var... anyone else?
 
>> Chefwide:

Wow man !!!! Soundz awsome. Can't wait to feel my stuff:D :D :D

I'm hitting my 8th day of var and primo tomorrow......
 
Chefwide pretty much summed up exactly how I felt.

Workouts were energized and recovery times were insane - I almost had to force myself to take rest days.

Vascularity - anavar seemed to improve what I already had - became more pronounced. This effect was most evident while working out - especially in my arms and shoulders.
It's about 5 weeks post cycle and the effect is not as noticeable now.

Libido - actually increased for me during cycle, slight slow down but no crash post cycle.

Hair - I started using nizoral 2% around week 6 just to be on the safe side. I had been noticing just a few extra hairs coming loose while showering (maybe 5-10). This stopped pretty much when my cycle ended - not been a problem to date.

I did have a few pimples show up across my shoulders around mid-cycle which I remedied with frequent washing, GF's neutragena products and lots of tanning.
 
you guys are making me jealous..i have to stay away from this site..the more i read the more umpatient i get ...lol...getting ready to move up north soon so gonna have to wait till after then (: lol
 
ChefWide:

Not only you put me jealous, mate, but you've made me think of dropping the Primo in my next cycle and doing Var only... Conclusion: I just ordered some Papervar and some G-Plenish... I have until April to decide if I keep the Primo in the game.

And...the story about the girl at the gym telling you "that hurt!" is great! Great timing too, now your wife and kids are out...:D

Finally, if that flag is what I think it is, congrats on the World Cup (better late than never)...
 
Icelanders are good footballers but I am not even sure if there is a national rugby club... hmmm.. dont think so....

Girl at the gym: yowch! Fire hot... I always get the jitters when she does dumbell rows... perfect, er, 'form' if you know what i mean...

No sidelines on the wife though, I dont play that way, but it sure is fun to feel 'marketable' LOL.
 
confid12000 said:
Ooops! Sorry ChefWide. I mistook your flag for England's!
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A shameful mistake! England have been the best rugby side in the world for 2 years at least now.

FYI - England flag is white with red cross..... jeese!!
 
had some quick stomach flu durring the week this past week, but all is well and totally back in saddle again.

Friday: chest, tris
saturday: back, bis
sunday: legs, shoulders
monday: feeling hard as a rock and loving it.

Great recovery still the word of the day. starting on wed I am working out with a strength trainer, so recover should get blasted to hell, but I am really looking forward to the gains involved. Just got another 8 weeks worth of graph paper in the mail today... so watch out, purrrrrrrrr..

;)
 
lol....i cant wait
 
PV sounds awesome. I just have to find someplace to get it now...lol.

Congrats on the gains man!

-2z-
 
Chef, what does your cycle look like? Also, how much creatine are you taking (you too scorp). Thanks, great info bros.
 
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