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My MAIN concern would be potential liver and kidney issues from the 17aa Anavar coupled with the high amounts of acetaminophen in most hydrocodone mixtures...
Its a lose lose situation
Its a lose lose situation
anavar and vicodine/morphine
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slash747
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I dont need to tellyou this you probably know it, but youre friend needs to get his priorities straight. If he admitedly has a drug problem it should not be something he just considers part of his life like a ingrown nail. You are talking about some serious shit. Not even the medical complications which can and will arise eventually. But the effect it will have on his ovedrall well being. Benzos , Hydrocodone, fuck with youre body's chemistry and usually make you depressed and dependant. Next he will possibly have to deal with depression that might be brought on from changing the hormones in youre body. Assuming he has a some type of addiction he is already probably not good at dealing with his problems and is most likely suffering from depression. Best thing that you can do for youre friend is let him know youre their for him to help him and then , and Im dead serious bro, get you and youre friends together and hand him a beatdown, but let him know its for his own good.
test-monkey
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tell him to drop the vics if he needs to continue (when you have a problem you have to stay on) just use the Morphine while he cycles anavar, the acetaminophen from the vics is the killer on his liver, I also know a few big guy's which some also compete and are on opiates on a daily bases because of medical conditions, and it seems that it's not effecting their gym life that much they all look good, geared or not.
test-monkey said:
It's irresponsible to suggest that he will be "OK" if he drops the the Vicodin and continues abusing the Morphine. Opiates abuse only degrades any benefit he would see from an AAS cycle anyway. Optiates are prescribed for short-term use, as they are very habitforming. I don't agree with your assessment of the situation.....he's an addict and he needs help.
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i have taken norco and morphine tabs while on but quit when i stopped lifting because of health. as many know i had pancrease diease and lived in pain and needed the pain killers for real reasons. i and this maybe stupid took steriods to try to keep up my weight as the diesae got worse. it was an endless spiral that ended for good when i received a whipple procedure this past May and spent 8 weeks out of work and 4 in the hospital having my pancrease removed ( 75% of it) and my stomache and intestines moved as well. my liver values were never bad during any of the pain killers and steriods and to be 1000% honest because of the diesase the steriods did very little for me and i still ended up being down 40 pounds. i went back to the gym this past week and now weigh 158 so since I got out of the hospital i have gained abck 18 pounds. i never had other than stones kidney issues but again my use of both was for a very good reason.
glennds
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hmmm, i don't get this post. how can you work out when high on vicodin or morphine? wouldn't you be too out of your mind to even want to? where does this "friend" even get this stuff? what kind of morphine are you talking about: oxycontin? heroin? percodan? i am not convinced this a legitimate post, but one to just get attention.
if meant towards me i was trying to keep weight on during the battle. many here can tell you what i went through as over the years many saw me in the hospital. in my case the morphine was 10 mg sulfate solu-tabs. gets to the point when you really need pain killers you take them and can function as I did. i neevr missed work unles in the hospital and traveled very often. his freind appears to be addicted and i used them for real reasons
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