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Am I the only whose scared by Tren?

superbigzane said:
My friend ran 300mg Tren ED for 30 Days.. he was healthy and did a blood test, everything was pretty normal.

I ran 300mg Tren ED for 60 days , i was healthy i looked healhy but i didnt do a blood test so i cant tell .

anyhow..

Sure you did.....don't post this crap on the boards, hoss. Some newbie might actually take you seriously.
 
Well, I respect Nelson and all of the other opions on the subject, but I just completed a 9 week cycle of tren/prop and I had no "noticable" sides. I did not do pre and during and post bloodwork (ok - sue me). For my next cycle I will do pre-mid-post cycle bloodwork and report back to everyone. I did NOT get:

1. Sleepless (hell I slept like a BABY)
2. Agression (none at all - not even a LITTLE road rage)
3. Trouble Breathing
4. Hairloss (none at all and I'm in my mid-30's)
5. Rashes (never heard of that one before - none here though)
6. Sweats at night (did sweat a lot during the day, but I've been taking T-rex too :) ).

I did notice that when I went ED with my doses (for the last week ONLY) I could "taste" the tren in the back of my mouth after injecting. I'm not sure what that is all about - but that is the only wackey thing that happened (besides hitting a vein twice - DOH!).

My cycle was 75Mg Tren EOD/ 100 Mg Prop EOD for weeks 1-8 and 75MG Tren ED/ 100 MG prop ED week 9. I have no idea what the long term effects are - but Tren has been around for YEARS (think Parabolin folks). Back in the 80's it seemed (From what I can remember) that Para was gear of the gods - LOTS of people were on it. I'm not sure how the Para stacks up against the newer Tren Acitate (I know we have to inject more - but I'm not sure what additional/fewer sides will come up long term). Why are you so against Tren Nelson? I mean it HAS been around for at least 30 years or more in para form, right?
 
Some of Nelsons comments show ignorance, dare i say. Fina has been studied for human use for decades, namely by a pharmaceutical company called Negma, ring a bell yet? Ok then look up Trenbolone as it's the active compund in Parabolan. So as far as i m concerned Trenbolone is trenbolone, you pick the ester. That' all that fina is, tenbolone actate and methycellulose sp, whch is basically paper used to give the implant it's structure. They are formed under high pressure with no glue or binders. Just trenbolone.

And just for the record tren use has been followed by fonz and myself as well. One board member (friend) finished a cycle and had a comlete blood profile done on him by his doctor post cycle. EVERYTHING was perfect his liver an kidney values were 100% ok, blood pressure, even cholesterol was more then perfect, a total of only 160. So in light of the evidence at hand with bloodwork to back it up, why do you insist on saying someone takes a cavalier attitude and that fina is so bad? Please explain with some science and not your story writing paragraphs.
 
newpump said:
Well, I respect Nelson and all of the other opions on the subject, but I just completed a 9 week cycle of tren/prop and I had no "noticable" sides. I did not do pre and during and post bloodwork (ok - sue me). For my next cycle I will do pre-mid-post cycle bloodwork and report back to everyone. I did NOT get:

1. Sleepless (hell I slept like a BABY)
2. Agression (none at all - not even a LITTLE road rage)
3. Trouble Breathing
4. Hairloss (none at all and I'm in my mid-30's)
5. Rashes (never heard of that one before - none here though)
6. Sweats at night (did sweat a lot during the day, but I've been taking T-rex too :) ).

I did notice that when I went ED with my doses (for the last week ONLY) I could "taste" the tren in the back of my mouth after injecting. I'm not sure what that is all about - but that is the only wackey thing that happened (besides hitting a vein twice - DOH!).

My cycle was 75Mg Tren EOD/ 100 Mg Prop EOD for weeks 1-8 and 75MG Tren ED/ 100 MG prop ED week 9. I have no idea what the long term effects are - but Tren has been around for YEARS (think Parabolin folks). Back in the 80's it seemed (From what I can remember) that Para was gear of the gods - LOTS of people were on it. I'm not sure how the Para stacks up against the newer Tren Acitate (I know we have to inject more - but I'm not sure what additional/fewer sides will come up long term). Why are you so against Tren Nelson? I mean it HAS been around for at least 30 years or more in para form, right?

Right, and this is what most users report at the dosages you described/used. Same goes for my friend, very similar cycle except he used a longer acting ester for the test, but the tren was the same. His blood profiles were perfect.
 
OH - I almost forgot, my GF told me that I needed to LOWER the test dose, I wanted to nail her too often (3~5 times daily - no joke). I'm not sure if this was the prop hitting me, but WHOA I felt like a teenager again, a stiff WIND would give me wood.

I will come clean about one side that I got - acne (just a little). That also reminded me of my teen years :( - the NEGATIVE side of my teen years. I think the acne is a common problem with test usage though, correct?

Sorry I didn't post this in my original message, it wasn't top of mind as I was posting. Also, during cycle I DID run the following sups:

1. r-ala (anywhere from 200 to 500 MG post meal - depending on how many carbs I was eating)
2. Protine shakes - 2 per day
3. Men's Mega vitaman from GNC (no flames please - I bought it a while ago and still have to kill the bottle :) )
4. T-Rex
4. A Saw Palmetto (320 Mg day), Vit B-6 (10 mg day), Zinc (30 Mg day), Pumpkin seed oil extract (80 Mg day), Pygeum Africanum Extract (20 Mg day) and FINALLY BearBerry Extract (10mg day) Combo for the prostate
5 LOTS OF WATER

that is all I can think of that is relevant for now. Hope this helps?!?
 
Nelson Montana said:

This is the problem. Some internet guru says it's fine, so it's fine. Somebody felt okay after using it. So it's okay. Can't tell if it caused any damage? Everythig must be allright.


Bllod work says otherwise my friend. You can play deaf to this fact but it still is a fact. Bllod work says it's all good.

This is NOT a case of fearing the unknown. It's a case of having a rational fear based on some very well known facts.

Fina is not intended for human consumption. It has never been tested in humans.


Yes it is, parabolan was trenbolone. Trenbolone is Fina.

The very fact that it creates weird side effect should tell you something is not right. Flu-like symptoms. Night sweats. Rashes. Insomnia. Increased blood pressure. Kidney damage. Irritability. WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED?!?!?!

Steroids should make you feel good, not sick.


Well Deca, test and your beloved primo will cause those as well. The sweats are caused by hormone spikes, incedentally test gave those symptoms to som guys i know, it also gave some rashes. Sorry no kidney damage, this is just your unfactual stoy, irritability can be caused by just about ALL seroids in suffucuent doses, so what?

I also believe a lot of the magically "fat burning" is really the dehydration it causes.

Not to mention...

THE STUFF KILLS YOUR DICK!!!


No really open your mind and read some more, LOL! Itdoes aid in fat burning ad it des not do it trough magic, as you put it. Also it killing your dick happens only i some users, but incedentally deca and winny did that to me as well, guess those are garbage as well.


Frankly I'm appauled how cavalier people are about this. What good is muscle if you can't fuck? Jeez, how can anyone be so vain that they'd trade their manhood for some temporary ego gratification. WHERE ARE THE MEN? Bodybuilding is a manly pursuit...or so I thought. I want to be strong, healthy and virile. I get the feeling some of you would castrate yourselves to get another inch on your bicep.

One of the benefits of juicing is the boost in libido. (sus--yea!) But, hey, you'd rather inject cow medicie that's been sterilized in your kitchen sink, be my guest. And while you're all impressed with how much weight you're lifting, I'll be tapping some juicy tang and loving life.

Who's the dope?


That is some dumb shit your just said. You assume everyone abuses anabolics. Some are well read and experienced and use them in a safe manner. Same goes or tren, it a relatively safe compound when not abused, which can be said for most anabolics.
 
I'm scared of tren, I'll admit. I've used test and dbol, deca a little, bread and butter to me, but tren seems a little different somehow. If parabolan proper were still around I know I'd feel differently, though it's a little irrational. I like the discussion on this thread so far. I've been curious about tren for a few months now, and this stuff is interesting posted here. Anyone got more on tren and the kidneys in humans? How would tren/test be different than test alone to me?
 
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