Almighty's Fina Word on R-ALA

[macrophage69alpha]

Hey BTW is anyone else worried Ala could become the next Phen-Phen?

r-ala is a naturally occuring co-factor.. which has insulin like properties, improves the action of insulin and decreases plasma insulin (all considered to be VERY HEALTHY effects)

your body makes r-ala (though albeit in smaller quantities than most people would like).. one of the dietary sources of r-ala is meat (though processing and cooking does destroy a lot of it)



on the other hand phentermine and fenfluramine when combined (a serotonergic agent and an amphetamine derivative) have been liked to some negative consequences (though how strong the link is unclear and due to the user population.. in which the heart valve issue is more common.. the results may be skewed). this combination or even indvidually could never be seen as healthy.. but merely as a means to an end..



though if your meaning was to intimate that its use and effectiveness (from a fat loss perspective) were to become as widespread and celebrated.. then that would not be an "unkind" comparison

 

[ndn diablo]

Hey BTW is anyone else worried Ala could become the next Phen-Phen?

Bump on what Macro said. ALA is naturally produced in the body in very small amonts. It has been researched for over 50 years now and has shown to have many positive effects. Another plus is that its toxicity has been shown to be at 34 grams (which is very high). Fen-Phen on the other hand was diet drug that was pulled off the market in 97 after it was linked to heart valve disease.

 

[gainerxxl]

I buy my ALA at my local Pharmacy, human grade stuff with a high content of r-ala, manufactured by a big german pharmaceutical company.
I´d never put any trust into Ala in powder form, since it degrades rapidly under Influence of oxygen, light or higher temperature. The Ala I buy at the pharmacy comes in specially coated, large pills, each one packed into a blister to protect the ala. The price is allright, I pay 45 Dollars for 100 pills, containing 600mg each.

Don´t buy that shit from kilosports, or any other powder form. They sell it for cheap, so you can bet they buy the cheapest stuff they can get. So it might be contaminated from the beginning on, and it´s going to degrade rapidly if proper treatment is not given. Since AF-Store sells it in capsules, this might be allright, although capsules are inferior to sugar coated, sealed pills.

Just my 2 cents from Europe

 

[macrophage69alpha]

the main issue with respect to ala degradation (whether it be r-ala or racemic) is UV light.

though agree that powder, for various reason, will degrade much faster.

believe that most of the extractions are 60-80%.. though the germans own the patent on at least one of the direct synthesis methods. Though they have not released it, think that they are awaiting approval. they intend to release it in the US a prescription drug (they have a use patent for this.. which gives it value..otherwise they would not be interested).

btw- for those that dont know.. most herbs in germany (at least the medical ones) are script and quite expensive (though they do have good standarization)