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satchboogie
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90% of the bros here juice.. the other 10% are about to.
wrong question in the wrong forum...lol
wrong question in the wrong forum...lol
BigCracker
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I've been natural for 3 hours and I'm hanging in there...until I jab another 750mg in my glute tomorrow.
SgtSlaughter
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BigCracker said:
LMAO... bro if I could give you more Karma I would.
Back on topic:
It's all about the diet and training... cycle everything like you would juice for increase gains. Supplements... eh, not many are cut out to be what they say as you probably know.
PureCEE I like
Gluc-R I like
T-rex I LOVE (cutting right now)
Protein powders, pick one if you can't afford to eat whole food all day like myself
Experiment as you did with juice.
True satch.....Im one of the 10%. Take superdrol by anabolic extreme..........They also have some other products like ergo max. I dont remember the names of the other ones.......Superdrol is amazing!!! I took it for only 3 weeks and gained 16 pounds. Strength went through the roof. I still have another 3 weeks in the bottle left. Im saving it to take in like a month or so. If you dont want to gain 16 lbs then dont take the weight gainer that I took with it.
Get a bunch of superdrol, I just ordered some so I can't say first hand its good, but I've heard MANY MANY people say its good! Check out the anabolix forum here for some other very good legal STERIODS.(superdrol IS a steroid, and is legal) Also if you want more of an outside omph, try running nolva at 20-40mg continually, it can really help boost your test levels when off.
SgtSlaughter
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Nate82 said:
I'm actually doing that... going to switch to LiquiDex when I run out though and experiment with that.
there's no feeling as the one you have when you are on. Pumps are incredible, stamina, etc. But now that you are natural you will have to adjust a bit. Diet needs to be in check as always. Protein, carbs and fat might have to be adjusted to meet your new state. Workouts should be adjusted but not that much. Since your strenght will probable drop somewhat, you will have to adjust for that. As far as days of working out you can keep your current schedule.
Remember that if you are on or off, diet is key.
Remember that if you are on or off, diet is key.
bluehen
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krishna said:
Well I trained clean for over 16 years before touching anything. I'll tell you this you need to get all your meals in, get your sleep, and still train hard. When your clean you need to do everything right, be consistant and paitient and you should do well.
pendit
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I work out 3 on 1 off. I focus on being consistant in my schedule. Sometimes I'll take 2 days off or reduce sets if I'm feeling a little run down. I track my food intake with fitday and make sure I'm hitting 3500 cals. I try to get as much protein in my diet as I can and focus on staying away from fat more than carbs. I don't use any supps or shakes, but I run different vitamins (mostly A and E) and zinc daily. I focus on drinking as much water as I can. Sleep is most important to me, so I try not to cheat myself of any. Nothing too special, but it's very effective for me.
shoestring
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Crappiie said:
Ummm, I hate to be the one to tell you this but... Superdrol is a methylated oral steroid. Every bit as much as anadrol, debol, t-bol, etc... You are not in the 10% who don't juice, you are just a juicer in denile. Not that I am that against superdrol, but please...
I know some people who train naturally and would blow away 80% of the people on this board in every discipline.
Even powerlifting. Kyle posts on the Anabolic Fitness board. He's 19. I met him in NJ at a wedding. He benches 600 for two. Deads 860. Squats 800.
And no, he's not fat, he's 275. He's still talking about the day he might do his first cycle.
Here is a athlete we sponsor who was totally natural when he won Team Universe.
You don't HAVE to use AS to be number one.
Even powerlifting. Kyle posts on the Anabolic Fitness board. He's 19. I met him in NJ at a wedding. He benches 600 for two. Deads 860. Squats 800.
And no, he's not fat, he's 275. He's still talking about the day he might do his first cycle.
Here is a athlete we sponsor who was totally natural when he won Team Universe.
You don't HAVE to use AS to be number one.
Throw2Far
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Ulter said:I know some people who train naturally and would blow away 80% of the people on this board in every discipline.
Even powerlifting. Kyle posts on the Anabolic Fitness board. He's 19. I met him in NJ at a wedding. He benches 600 for two. Deads 860. Squats 800.
And no, he's not fat, he's 275. He's still talking about the day he might do his first cycle.
Here is a athlete we sponsor who was totally natural when he won Team Universe.
You don't HAVE to use AS to be number one.
Raw? Thats impressive either way.
BigCracker
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Ulter said:I know some people who train naturally and would blow away 80% of the people on this board in every discipline.
Even powerlifting. Kyle posts on the Anabolic Fitness board. He's 19. I met him in NJ at a wedding. He benches 600 for two. Deads 860. Squats 800.
And no, he's not fat, he's 275. He's still talking about the day he might do his first cycle.
Here is a athlete we sponsor who was totally natural when he won Team Universe.
You don't HAVE to use AS to be number one.
Um...I think I'd have to see it to believe it-along with the past few years of bloodwork. I've only met a couple teens capable of doing over 500 lbs on the bench(w/shirt) in my life and they were on enough juice to kill an elephant. Who knows? Maybe this guy is from another planet or his mom ate 5lbs of london broil a day during pregnancy?
Well maybe you should meet Kyle. He's the world record holder for a teenager in all three lifts and total. I know him and his trainer Mike Miller very well and he's natural. Like it or not.
If you go to the Anabolic Fitness board and go to the training and rehab forum you can see his workout log.
SgtSlaughter
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gjohnson5 said:
Size does not always coincide with strength. Plus his arms are up.
Good for him though!
bluehen
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Ulter said:Well maybe you should meet Kyle. He's the world record holder for a teenager in all three lifts and total. I know him and his trainer Mike Miller very well and he's natural. Like it or not.
If you go to the Anabolic Fitness board and go to the training and rehab forum you can see his workout log.
The problem with people believing him being natural is that the Team universe is a joke in terms of being a natural show.
You're mixing up two people. The pick is of Kraig Fellman. The powerlifter I am talking about is Kyle. Kraig is a natural athlete, well he was up until that pic, I don't know if he still is. He's been using our supps for 2 years and we sponsored him.
Retabolil2
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I`m going natural too! Most natural guys like Satch looks pretty damn good! 
Retabolil2
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I dont think that such a miserable joke would bust his balls but to answer your question - Yes sir, I love it!boston789 said:
SgtSlaughter
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slat1 said:
Don't we all...
BUT... I'm working on changing that feeling damnit!
Retabolil2
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We have one BIG BAD MOTHERFUCKER that is way bigger than me though!sgtslaughter said:Don't we all...
LOL Read his message and guess who I`m talking about:
"your vids are gay, your tris and lats and chest are lacking hella...lol keep bombing...i see you're into karma now, aren't you a big boi with no time on his hands, biz is slow for you i know..."
SgtSlaughter
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I'm well aware of the mass that is on this board. No clue who you're talking about there. We're just saying your avatar is inspiring to alot of us bro.
Retabolil2
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well a little bit offtopic but its my old "good" friend DBBTsgtslaughter said:
His pics doesnt inspire me though
SgtSlaughter
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OK, gotcha! He's a good bro, good posts I've seen around.
lol... creating our own inspiration is key at one level or another though!
lol... creating our own inspiration is key at one level or another though!
BigCracker
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If I were mentoring a teen powerlifter that wanted to go somewhere in the sport of bodybuilding or powerlifting, the 1st thing I would teach him is how to lie like a Sicilian Gangster about his roid use. I would tell him to never admit it to a soul to boost his marketability to natural supplement users. My biggest problem with him being natural is that according to his stats he's years ahead of others his age that aren't natural. As a coach, I'd support him in his natural claims whether or not he was. As a sponsor of his, I would do the same. Sorry for being skeptical, but you can't shit me cuz I have a plastic turd in my back pocket.Ulter said:Well maybe you should meet Kyle. He's the world record holder for a teenager in all three lifts and total. I know him and his trainer Mike Miller very well and he's natural. Like it or not.
If you go to the Anabolic Fitness board and go to the training and rehab forum you can see his workout log.
Then again, I guess it's somehow possible this teen is some genetic anomaly? I just think it's highly unlikely.
SgtSlaughter
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I COMPLETLY understand your point of view and mentality towards the kid. But I think almost anything is possible if enough time is put towards goals... what if he's got a nutritionist, trainer, someone to make him go to bed at 8pm, someone to feed him every hour... ect?
Who knows... either way it takes alot of work, no? I respect that a kid (I say kid.. only being a few years older and wiser lol) his age would dedicate himself in that manner, no matter juice or not, he trains his ass off I'm sure. Just trying to be more positive I guess.
Who knows... either way it takes alot of work, no? I respect that a kid (I say kid.. only being a few years older and wiser lol) his age would dedicate himself in that manner, no matter juice or not, he trains his ass off I'm sure. Just trying to be more positive I guess.
shoestring said:
Not a juicer in denile....I just didnt know. now I do. I guess im a juicer for 3 weeks out of 22 years........Does that even count though???
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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yea but look at his faceslat1 said:
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been doing this for 20 years. I know what a user looks like from across the room. I happen to know the people Kyle Millheiser trains with and his friends. So I don't doubt it for second. He doesn't have to lie, so he's lucky he doesn't have you training him and trying to convince him he should. He's already way past anyone you will ever train, and he's a good and honest kid.BigCracker said:
These are his lifts when he broke the IPA records.
IPA WORLDS
squat 850
bench 630
deadlift 720
total 2200 biggest all time teenage total
And oh BTW he has vertical leap of 48", 50" when he tested for Div 1 football.
He's now 20, so no longer a teenager.
instant.muscle
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Crappiie said:
hey what is this stuff and where do u get it? thanks
BigCracker
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Ulter said:I've been doing this for 20 years. I know what a user looks like from across the room. I happen to know the people Kyle Millheiser trains with and his friends. So I don't doubt it for second. He doesn't have to lie, so he's lucky he doesn't have you training him and trying to convince him he should. He's already way past anyone you will ever train, and he's a good and honest kid.
These are his lifts when he broke the IPA records.
IPA WORLDS
squat 850
bench 630
deadlift 720
total 2200 biggest all time teenage total
And oh BTW he has vertical leap of 48", 50" when he tested for Div 1 football.
He's now 20, so no longer a teenager.
Impressive- whether he's natural or not.
