Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below looking fom suggestions on how to take ala just to create a caloric deficit due to trasportation of glucose into bloodstream. I'm not interested in using it to mimic insulin for bulking wich could take to fat storage too. So for my pourpose wich is cutting, wich is the best way to take it (with what meals?how much)
Ala For Cutting An To Minimaze Fat Storage
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Fener said:
Fener,
I used ALA for cutting and it worked great! Stats: Jan 1rst 203lbs @ 12%bf now: 180lbs @4.7%bf.
I did ZERO cardio. That's right zip, zero, nada, zilch. You do have to create a small calorie deficit by dieting however. I took anywhere from 900mg to 2100mg ALA with each meal. The more carbs I had the more ALA I used.
I alternated between 1 or 2 low carb days, followed by 1 or 2 medium to high carb days. Even though I was eating an average of 300gm of carbs/day I was almost always in trace to moderate ketosis.
Careful taking ALA first thing in the morning, following a low carb day, because you *will* go into into hypoglycemia. Your glucose levels are naturally low in the morning; add low carbingthe day before to that and you'll dispose of almost all your blood glucose. On those days I had 150gm carbs from ultra fuel, first thing in the morning, and still stayed in ketosis! ALA is Amazing stuff..
Oh and more thing: Take the ALA first, followed by *immediately* stuffing your face. Otherwise at that dosage you will get the nastiest heartburn you've ever experienced!
rangerx83 (aka RockHard)
Re: redsox
Alpha Lipoic Acid.
1) I would suggest you reduce your daily caloric intake by about 500 calories. Just eliminate some night snack(s) that you're having or your favorite desert. You may need to reduce your carb intake as well.
2) Take about a gram of alpha lipoic acid with each meal. Taken the ALA JUST BEFORE you eat, otherwise it's major heartburn city.
3) Take 4-6 psyllum husk fiber capsules whenever you have a meal which has fat in it. The fiber will absorb the fat, and it will pass thru your system undigested.
4) Do weight training.
5) If you follow those steps, you'll find that cardio is optional
Rangerx83 (aka RockHard)
jzch169 said:
Alpha Lipoic Acid.
1) I would suggest you reduce your daily caloric intake by about 500 calories. Just eliminate some night snack(s) that you're having or your favorite desert. You may need to reduce your carb intake as well.
2) Take about a gram of alpha lipoic acid with each meal. Taken the ALA JUST BEFORE you eat, otherwise it's major heartburn city.
3) Take 4-6 psyllum husk fiber capsules whenever you have a meal which has fat in it. The fiber will absorb the fat, and it will pass thru your system undigested.
4) Do weight training.
5) If you follow those steps, you'll find that cardio is optional
Rangerx83 (aka RockHard)
TraxZBT said:
The lethal toxic dose is 30gms/day. I take 3-4 gms/day. The amount that you guys are taking does not give the same level of effect that a multigram daily gives. I was in full ketosis even on the days that I ate large amount of carbs. You will never see that with just taking 600mg/day. To me the proof is in the pudding. I used to take ALA at the dosage you did, and never managed to lose 17 lbs of fat in 1.5 months, just with moderate dieting and NO cardio.
Remember when creatine used to come in 500mg caps? And people took 2 or 3 caps and essentially nothing happened? Same thing. Until some one said let me try a damn teaspoon full of creatine, and the rest is history.
This has been my observation and experience on it. Your mileage may vary. I take enough ALA to get a moderate hypoglycemic state which when combined with weight training and moderate dieting is highly beneficial to fat loss.
Rangerx83 (AKA RockHard)
I've been taking ALA for the past few weeks, also with no cardio, and I am losing fat faster than I ever have before. I've been taking 300-600 mg per meal, for a total of about 2g per day, and its been awesome. My diet has been alright, though I do have a large carb meal after I lift, but the ALA definately helps with that.
TraxZBT said:
I was using 3-4 300mg capsule with each meal. I used vitamin shoppe brand, but any will do. There is an issue of iron deficiency (and minerals in general) at that dosage. I take an iron pill/day as well as a multivitamin with minerals. There also a study that shows that extreme dosages of ALA interfere with biotin in rats. Whether this applies to humans is unknown. I don't intend to stay on this dosage forever.
The 600mg/day dosage is great for liver protection. ALA's insulin potentiating properties as well as nutrient partitioning effects don't become pronounced until much more is taken. It depends on what you're trying to achieve with ALA.
In my opinion. using ALA at the multi-gram level/day has anabolic effects, (nutrient partitioning, muscle sparing etc) similar to low strength steroids like primobolan. When combined at that dosage with juice, it really potentiates it, much like adding insulin to your cycle..
Rangerx83 (aka RockHard)
slingblade
New member
This is very interesting. I just ordered some ALA for liver protection but keep hearing other good things as well.
SirWanksalot
New member
rangerx83 - Props to you bro for pushing the envelope and relaying the benefits of mega doses of ALA for dieting.
I'd like to see Fonz's input concerning the dosage you take
I'm doing 1200mg daily now and am thinking of incorporating
your scheme. Got 100 grams on order with beyond a century so I could try a month long test at 3 grams a day (90g).
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Enter keywords in search: LIPOIC ACID, ALPHA PURE
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Daily Dosage 900mg = 34.2 cents
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I'd like to see Fonz's input concerning the dosage you take
I'm doing 1200mg daily now and am thinking of incorporating
your scheme. Got 100 grams on order with beyond a century so I could try a month long test at 3 grams a day (90g).
---------------
Cheapest ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid)
Beyond-A-Century
https://www2.acadia.net/cgi-bin/BAC/web_store.cgi
Enter keywords in search: LIPOIC ACID, ALPHA PURE
50 grams (bulk powder) / Price: $19.00 / 3.8 cents per 100mg
Daily Dosage 900mg = 34.2 cents
http://nutriteam.com/alpha.htm
180 (300mg) caps = 54grams / Price: $28.95 / 5.36 cents per 100 mg
Daily Dosage 900mg (3 caps) = 48.24 cents
NOTE: NOTE: Beyond-A-Century also carries CAP-M-QUICK $10.20 for making own capsules (2nd best price i've located) ITEM Code 704
SirWanksalot said:
Thanks SirWanksalot. It was really by accident. One morning, after low-carbing for several days I decided to take 1200mg of ALA along with my whey protein and 50gm of ultrafuel. Half an hour later I started feeling dizzy, light headed, nauseous and could barely stand up. I felt like I was going to pass out...
At first I thought that it was just because I was dieting, and that I was just hungry, and tried eating some meat, but I could barely lift the fork to my mouth! I decided to take in liquid foods, milk, with tons of sugar, etc. Sure enough the light headed-ness left within half an hour.
It was then that I realized that I had experienced a brief hypoglycemia bout, induced by the ALA dose combined with low carbing the days before. This was powerful stuff! I decided to use that dose with every meal (which included a good amount of carbs) to help push nutrients into muscle tissue. Soon after that I noticed my fat loss had accelerated.
I was already dieting, but when I introduced the 1gram+ per meal the fat loss really took off... I think that being in ketosis while eating carbs helped a lot..
I am already corresponding with Fonz, since I'm writing an article on this for AnabolicExtreme. Fonz agrees with the benefits of the large ALA doses, and was happy to hear from a fellow ALA enthusiast. We may be collaborating together on the article....
Regardless, I've asked him to glance at this thread to see what if anything he'd like to contribute...
So again, thank you.
Rangerx83 (aka RockHard)
Burning_Inside
Elite Mentor
Fener said:
me too
Fener said:
You will experience hypoglycemic like effects if you low carb and do that dosage. I don't mind, but you may. Just eat slightly less than you do normally. No need to go superlow carb.
Also at that dosage ALA MUST be taken JUST BEFORE you eat, (I mean like seconds before). Eat IMMEDIATELY after you take it so that the food is on top of it in your stomach. This will prevent the huge heartburn that you would get if you either take it without eating at all, or taking it after eating.
rangerx83
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Polfa/Jelfa
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Great post...im also taking ala.. for liver protection..and noticed this ...=) no wim going up to 500 mg be4 each meal..on low carb diet..and feel like shit..means im in ketosis.=)..i wil go higherin carbs though
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Polfa/Jelfa
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Then take it with the bigger meals...or take 500 each meal
gmaninsane
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Ranger and Fonz
Let me break down a simple diet first:
Meal1:50carbs oatmeal 30protein egg
Meal2:50protein tuna
Meal3:40protein and salad
Meal4: (post workout) 2scoops protein 10oz juice
Meal5 Tuna or chicken
Meal6 steak , tuna , chicken or turkery , with dark vegies and salad.
Hardly any carbs are taken in on this diet monday - friday , sat and sunday i carb up good. How would ALA fit into this?
Im 510 235 around 12-14% just trying to look good for summer? Ive never used the product thanks for input.20yr old
I also use Flax oil 2 times a day. with 30 min of cardio 5 workouts a week.
Let me break down a simple diet first:
Meal1:50carbs oatmeal 30protein egg
Meal2:50protein tuna
Meal3:40protein and salad
Meal4: (post workout) 2scoops protein 10oz juice
Meal5 Tuna or chicken
Meal6 steak , tuna , chicken or turkery , with dark vegies and salad.
Hardly any carbs are taken in on this diet monday - friday , sat and sunday i carb up good. How would ALA fit into this?
Im 510 235 around 12-14% just trying to look good for summer? Ive never used the product thanks for input.20yr old
I also use Flax oil 2 times a day. with 30 min of cardio 5 workouts a week.
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Burning_Inside
Elite Mentor
Re: Re: redsox
why would you not want to digest fats? Would supplementing with flax be bad with this whole thing? Flax can't store in your body anwyay.
rangerx83 said:
why would you not want to digest fats? Would supplementing with flax be bad with this whole thing? Flax can't store in your body anwyay.
Burning_Inside
Elite Mentor
Re: Ranger and Fonz
i'd like to know how ala would work with this diet too. My diet is kinda low carb, i'd say 200 grams a day if im lucky. I weight train and am doing half hour of cardio 5 times a week and taking glutamine and flax, and im on clen right now, how would ala fit into my diet?
gmaninsane said:
i'd like to know how ala would work with this diet too. My diet is kinda low carb, i'd say 200 grams a day if im lucky. I weight train and am doing half hour of cardio 5 times a week and taking glutamine and flax, and im on clen right now, how would ala fit into my diet?
gmaninsane
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Ranger
gave me a heads up. He said there was no need to go that low carb as around 200 would be enough with ala. He said i would have to play around with the amount of ala with each meal to find my tolerance.
gave me a heads up. He said there was no need to go that low carb as around 200 would be enough with ala. He said i would have to play around with the amount of ala with each meal to find my tolerance.
Re: Re: Re: redsox
Because sometimes I cheat and have very greasy, fatty foods, such as fried porkchops. There's nothing wrong with fats, they are just highly caloric. If you're on a weight reduction diet, eating fatty foods is an extremely easy way to go over your caloric limit in-advertently.
By taking huge amount of psyllum husk before an exceptionally greasy meal, it allows me to still enjoy the decandent pleasure of eating the food, without worrying too much about its impact on my body. It's almost as if I was eating a low fat diet. (yuck)
Note that whenever I take fish oil, or flax seed oil, or oil soluble vitamins, like Vitamin E, I DON'T take psyllum hush fiber. Otherwise they would probably go thru my system undigested as well.
rangerx83
Burning_Inside said:
Because sometimes I cheat and have very greasy, fatty foods, such as fried porkchops. There's nothing wrong with fats, they are just highly caloric. If you're on a weight reduction diet, eating fatty foods is an extremely easy way to go over your caloric limit in-advertently.
By taking huge amount of psyllum husk before an exceptionally greasy meal, it allows me to still enjoy the decandent pleasure of eating the food, without worrying too much about its impact on my body. It's almost as if I was eating a low fat diet. (yuck)
Note that whenever I take fish oil, or flax seed oil, or oil soluble vitamins, like Vitamin E, I DON'T take psyllum hush fiber. Otherwise they would probably go thru my system undigested as well.
rangerx83
fsuwarrior
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I would like to keep these articles bumped for a few more days.
I am interested to find out from personal experience. Come on Kilosport I am waiting for my package.
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fsuwarrior
I am interested to find out from personal experience. Come on Kilosport I am waiting for my package.
peace
fsuwarrior
ascension2001
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Got my ALA at the lowest price i've seen
Got it @ $70 for 200 grams from [email protected]
his list said $36 for 100
PEACE
Got it @ $70 for 200 grams from [email protected]
his list said $36 for 100
PEACE
Ok, I'm cutting with tren 75mg EOD and NYC. I'm going to add low dose cyp starting next week. I'm trying to eat 250-300g protein and moderate carbs <150g and 2-3 tbs flax oil, divided over 5-6 meals a day. 6-0 220 lbs around 15% b/f.
How should I incorporate ALA into this cycle?
Thanks.
How should I incorporate ALA into this cycle?
Thanks.
HugeWannabe
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"3) Take 4-6 psyllum husk fiber capsules whenever you have a meal which has fat in it. The fiber will absorb the fat, and it will pass thru your system undigested. "
can anyone elaborate on this ? Does this work? I did a search and only came up with 2 posts, so I am guessing this stuff is no miracle!
can anyone elaborate on this ? Does this work? I did a search and only came up with 2 posts, so I am guessing this stuff is no miracle!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: redsox
I understand what you are saying. I should have reworded that.
My basic premise is that fiber in general, and psyllum husk specifically, will absorb most of the fats digested with it, especially when the fiber is taken in mass quantities. Just look at any Quaker oatmeal box.
Furthermore, even saturated fats, or the horrific partially hydrogenated oils, are not bad for you if taken in reasonable MODERATION. I have very low bad cholesterol level.
I contend that if the above premise is true, then most of the "bad" fats will pass thru your system along with the fiber.
Notice that I mentioned, at the bottom of my post, NOT to take fiber when taking the "good" fats. Why, because you do want these to be digested. Same thing goes for fat soluble vitamins.
Therefore, I should have reworded my original statement to say "...there is nothing wrong with fats, especially if they pass thru your system largely undigested".
Look just don't eat fried chicken every day. Just have it on a special occasion, and take a shitload of fiber with it.
I think that the combination of alpha lipoic acid, fiber and moderate dieting really helped me lose a *lot* of fat.
There were times that I just *had* to cheat.
regards,
rangerx83
jboldman said:
I understand what you are saying. I should have reworded that.
My basic premise is that fiber in general, and psyllum husk specifically, will absorb most of the fats digested with it, especially when the fiber is taken in mass quantities. Just look at any Quaker oatmeal box.
Furthermore, even saturated fats, or the horrific partially hydrogenated oils, are not bad for you if taken in reasonable MODERATION. I have very low bad cholesterol level.
I contend that if the above premise is true, then most of the "bad" fats will pass thru your system along with the fiber.
Notice that I mentioned, at the bottom of my post, NOT to take fiber when taking the "good" fats. Why, because you do want these to be digested. Same thing goes for fat soluble vitamins.
Therefore, I should have reworded my original statement to say "...there is nothing wrong with fats, especially if they pass thru your system largely undigested".
Look just don't eat fried chicken every day. Just have it on a special occasion, and take a shitload of fiber with it.
I think that the combination of alpha lipoic acid, fiber and moderate dieting really helped me lose a *lot* of fat.
There were times that I just *had* to cheat.
regards,
rangerx83
McBane said:
Yes please elaborate ranger, I am interested too as I sometimes cheat with chicken fingersand it would be nice if the husk fiber caps help reduce the fat storage.
I understand. An occasional cheat will preserve your sanity, and prevent you from overbinging on ice cream and other stuff, if you haven't had it in a while.
I'm the guy who believes that mass quantities of ALA together with a moderate diet, helped tremendously with fat loss. I'm the first one to really point it out. My stats are: start: 203lb @ 12%bf end: 180lb at 4.5%bf. Timespan: about 2.5 months.
I also believe in mass quantities of psyllum husk, taken strategically at times when eating fatty meals which contain the "bad" fats (partially hydrogenated oil, saturated fats).
It is a documented fact that the fiber contained in oatmeal absorbs cholesterol and fats. Just look at any Quaker oatmeal box. It's also a documented fact that psyllum husk is 7-10 times more powerful than oatmeal fiber, so draw your own conclusions.
Furthermore, it's also a documented fact that one should not take mass quantities of fiber with the 'good' fats (fish oil, flax seed oil, and others) since you do want your body to fully utilize these.
Have a bad meal once every two weeks or so, sometimes every week, but rarely. Take fiber with it. Go to the bathroom the next morning and look in amazement at your offspring. I think you'll be amazed
rangerx83
You might want to add guar gum to your magic fat bullet! It is pretty amazing stuff whn mixed with psyllium. You can get both cheap from beyond a century!
It is pretty amazing stuff whn mixed with psyllium. You can get both cheap from beyond a century!rangerx83 said:
I understand. An occasional cheat will preserve your sanity, and prevent you from overbinging on ice cream and other stuff, if you haven't had it in a while.
I'm the guy who believes that mass quantities of ALA together with a moderate diet, helped tremendously with fat loss. I'm the first one to really point it out. My stats are: start: 203lb @ 12%bf end: 180lb at 4.5%bf. Timespan: about 2.5 months.
I also believe in mass quantities of psyllum husk, taken strategically at times when eating fatty meals which contain the "bad" fats (partially hydrogenated oil, saturated fats).
It is a documented fact that the fiber contained in oatmeal absorbs cholesterol and fats. Just look at any Quaker oatmeal box. It's also a documented fact that psyllum husk is 7-10 times more powerful than oatmeal fiber, so draw your own conclusions.
Furthermore, it's also a documented fact that one should not take mass quantities of fiber with the 'good' fats (fish oil, flax seed oil, and others) since you do want your body to fully utilize these.
Have a bad meal once every two weeks or so, sometimes every week, but rarely. Take fiber with it. Go to the bathroom the next morning and look in amazement at your offspring. I think you'll be amazed
rangerx83
Isn't guar gum used as binder in foods? What does it do in terms of fat loss, exactly?jboldman said:You might want to add guar gum to your magic fat bullet!
Also, shoot me the url....
thanx
rangerx83
solidspine
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I am about to start a cycle of clen,
21 days on
7 off
21 days on
7 off
21 days on
Would ALA help with this cutting cycle or could I simply try ALA and skip the clen?
Thanks
21 days on
7 off
21 days on
7 off
21 days on
Would ALA help with this cutting cycle or could I simply try ALA and skip the clen?
Thanks
SirWanksalot
New member
rangerx83 said:
Your statements about blocking fats with fiber lends support to this article concerning CHITOSAN vs. XENICAL.
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=136537
HugeWannabe
New member
Will I go hypo if I take 500mg with each meal? Here is my diet
Meal One Calories Carbs Protein Fat
2 cups low ft. milk 200 24 16 6
2 scoops whey protein 220 5 44 3
1 Cup Non Fat Yogurt 120 17 13 0
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Total 540 46 73 9
Meal Two Calories Carbs Protein Fat
2 Whole Wheat pieces bread 140 26 6 2
Turkey meat, 5-6 slices 135 0 30 3
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Total 275 26 36 5
Meal Three Calories Carbs Protein Fat
0.17 kg Turkey breast 240 0 48 2
0.045 kg pasta 164 35 3 1.5
.5 cup tomato sauce 40 7 1 1
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Total 444 42 52 4.5
Meal Four (Post Workout) Calories Carbs Protein Fat
1/2 Cup Strawberries 20 5 0 0
2 cups low ft. milk 200 24 16 6
2 scoops whey protein 220 5 44 3
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Totals 440 34 60 9
Meal Five Calories Carbs Protein Fat
0.2 kg chicken breast 217 0 45 4
.5 cup cooked wht rice 130 35 3 0
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Totals 347 35 48 4
Meal Six Calories Carbs Protein Fat
2 cups low ft. milk 200 24 16 6
2 scoops whey protein 220 5 44 3
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Totals 420 29 60 9
Totals 2466 212 329 40.5
Thanks in advance guys
Meal One Calories Carbs Protein Fat
2 cups low ft. milk 200 24 16 6
2 scoops whey protein 220 5 44 3
1 Cup Non Fat Yogurt 120 17 13 0
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Total 540 46 73 9
Meal Two Calories Carbs Protein Fat
2 Whole Wheat pieces bread 140 26 6 2
Turkey meat, 5-6 slices 135 0 30 3
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Total 275 26 36 5
Meal Three Calories Carbs Protein Fat
0.17 kg Turkey breast 240 0 48 2
0.045 kg pasta 164 35 3 1.5
.5 cup tomato sauce 40 7 1 1
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Total 444 42 52 4.5
Meal Four (Post Workout) Calories Carbs Protein Fat
1/2 Cup Strawberries 20 5 0 0
2 cups low ft. milk 200 24 16 6
2 scoops whey protein 220 5 44 3
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Totals 440 34 60 9
Meal Five Calories Carbs Protein Fat
0.2 kg chicken breast 217 0 45 4
.5 cup cooked wht rice 130 35 3 0
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Totals 347 35 48 4
Meal Six Calories Carbs Protein Fat
2 cups low ft. milk 200 24 16 6
2 scoops whey protein 220 5 44 3
500mg of ALA
500mg of Ginger
Totals 420 29 60 9
Totals 2466 212 329 40.5
Thanks in advance guys
HugeWannabe said:
I don't know if you will get hypo or not, but that is an awesome diet. Looks great! If you are worried about becoming hypo carry a snicker bar with you or an apple. If you feel the effects of it hypoglycemia coming on, eat it.
I think everyone will be different in regards to being hypo or not.
Ty
is this enough?
would taking 2000mg of ala a day at breakfast, lunch and dinner in combo with test,deca,and dbol for 8 weeks prove to be good mass builder? will it cause the muscle to grow faster than say like 300 mg a day? or should u take it stratigically through out the day or just after workouts for the insulin properties? im trying to figure out this ALA stuff to see how benifical this would really be. any comments on this would be greatly appreciated.
minitor2
would taking 2000mg of ala a day at breakfast, lunch and dinner in combo with test,deca,and dbol for 8 weeks prove to be good mass builder? will it cause the muscle to grow faster than say like 300 mg a day? or should u take it stratigically through out the day or just after workouts for the insulin properties? im trying to figure out this ALA stuff to see how benifical this would really be. any comments on this would be greatly appreciated.
minitor2
pitbullstl
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Can't wait
Can't wait to try this again!!!!!!!!! It's been about a year....PEACE
Can't wait to try this again!!!!!!!!! It's been about a year....PEACE
HugeWannabe
New member
tyguy said:
Thanks a lot for the compliments on the diet, its hard to get people to help you with the diet!!! That was i was thinking was to carry an apple or something with me, maybe organge juice boxes in the car just in case. Thanks a lot TY!
Re: is this enough?
We haven't heard a immense amount of information with ALA for bulking although the info we have heard hasn't been discouraging. Like most people I say you should start at 1500mgs a day divided between three meals and see how you feel. I noticed the pumps at 1500mgs but didn't notice the fat loss till 3 grams. If you are bulking you may not want to go as high as 3 grams, but then again maybe you would want to to keep gains high and hold less fat.
Experiment, learn about your own body, not mine.
Ty
Minitor2 said:
We haven't heard a immense amount of information with ALA for bulking although the info we have heard hasn't been discouraging. Like most people I say you should start at 1500mgs a day divided between three meals and see how you feel. I noticed the pumps at 1500mgs but didn't notice the fat loss till 3 grams. If you are bulking you may not want to go as high as 3 grams, but then again maybe you would want to to keep gains high and hold less fat.
Experiment, learn about your own body, not mine.
Ty
CalifMadDog
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Why dosnt Ranger or Fonz answer gmaninsane or Burning_Insides questions????????????
THE PROTOTYPE2000
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Thought this was pretty intesresting read. Maybe you will too....
xonic2xonic
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ALA Rebound?
Whats it like coming off ALA. Do you find your BF goes back up quickly?
Thanks!
Whats it like coming off ALA. Do you find your BF goes back up quickly?
Thanks!
MiniColemans
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was'nt someone gonna post about insulin potentiation and ALA regarding effects of weight loss and muscle building?
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