ALA+Ephedrine: The next gneration stack.

[Fonz]

I understand that you tried ALC alone several years ago, but have you tried it in combination with r-ALA? Someone posted a research report that stated that ALA+ALC is very, very good for you, better than either alone. I've tried ALC alone and was not impressed. However ALC + r-ALA is *amazing*.

My motor skills and coordination have improved tremendously to the point that I feel ten years younger..

RangerX

2 questions:

1. Whats dosage of ALC

2. Where did you buy the ALC from(Purity counts)

I'm starting my Mega-nootropic stack now for
University(Start. Jan) si this interest me.

Fonz

 

[SofaGeorge]

2 questions:

1. Whats dosage of ALC

2. Where did you buy the ALC from(Purity counts)

I'm starting my Mega-nootropic stack now for
University(Start. Jan) si this interest me.

Fonz

Fonz, the dosage tends to go down with synergistic nootropics. Hence, if you are using 2000mgALC to get an effect... you may only need 500 when mixing it with r-ALA, vinpocetine, etc... There are a number of ways of testing a formula to see if you are using too much/too little/just right.

And ranger - yes - r-ALA with ALC. I have tried ALA as a nootropic but am having better results with r-ALA. I seem to get the "blocking" effect much quicker with ALA... which indicates my dose is too high when mixing the two... but that is on just one 500mg capsule. Oddly, it may also indicate that the S version of the ALA has a strong cognitive component... too strong in this mixture.

When I play chess on r-ALA my score goes up. When I play on ALA I start to go down... overloaded.

My best chess playing stack so far:

100-200mg r-ALA
1000-1500 ALC
200mg DMAE
100mg CDP
30mg Vinpocetine
50mg pregnenolone

 

[Fonz]

Fonz, the dosage tends to go down with synergistic nootropics. Hence, if you are using 2000mgALC to get an effect... you may only need 500 when mixing it with r-ALA, vinpocetine, etc... There are a number of ways of testing a formula to see if you are using too much/too little/just right.

And ranger - yes - r-ALA with ALC. I have tried ALA as a nootropic but am having better results with r-ALA. I seem to get the "blocking" effect much quicker with ALA... which indicates my dose is too high when mixing the two... but that is on just one 500mg capsule. Oddly, it may also indicate that the S version of the ALA has a strong cognitive component... too strong in this mixture.

When I play chess on r-ALA my score goes up. When I play on ALA I start to go down... overloaded.

My best chess playing stack so far:

100-200mg r-ALA
1000-1500 ALC
200mg DMAE
100mg CDP
30mg Vinpocetine
50mg pregnenolone

Thanks.

But whats CDP?

You don't use Bromo?Hydergine?Piracetam?Acetyl-L-Tyrosine?
Choline?
(Just curious)

Fonz

 

[EngiCream]

I'm starting my Mega-nootropic stack now for
University(Start. Jan) si this interest me.

Fonz

Hey Fonz........would you mind saying what your "Mega-nootropic" stack consists of?

 

[AAP]

So much for Fonz answering my question. I posted in here twice and PM'd you once dude.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Thanks.

But whats CDP?

You don't use Bromo?Hydergine?Piracetam?Acetyl-L-Tyrosine?
Choline?
(Just curious)

Fonz

CDP is CDP choline... very interesting stuff... stopped using bromo regularly in the mid-80s... wires me too much. (Two of my old clients were the first research scientists to recommend using hydergine and bromo as smart drugs.) Hydergine is okay... but vinpocetine packs a more tangible punch. Piracetam is okay... not as interesting long term as I would have hoped. I've never tried acetyl-l-tyrosine.

I'm assuming you've read SMART DRUGS AND NUTRIENTS and SMART DRUGS II. They are curently the best books out... but very out dated. The best current info usually comes out first in the SMART DRUG NEWS LETTER.

http://www.ceri.com/

Steve Fowkes, the publisher, has been a very long time friend of mine and I give him great credit for almost always scooping everyone else on what is new and interesting.

BTW... I'm leaving for a week. I very much look forward to seeing your ALA/BG info.

 

[Fonz]

CDP is CDP choline... very interesting stuff... stopped using bromo regularly in the mid-80s... wires me too much. (Two of my old clients were the first research scientists to recommend using hydergine and bromo as smart drugs.) Hydergine is okay... but vinpocetine packs a more tangible punch. Piracetam is okay... not as interesting long term as I would have hoped. I've never tried acetyl-l-tyrosine.

I'm assuming you've read SMART DRUGS AND NUTRIENTS and SMART DRUGS II. They are curently the best books out... but very out dated. The best current info usually comes out first in the SMART DRUG NEWS LETTER.

http://www.ceri.com/

Steve Fowkes, the publisher, has been a very long time friend of mine and I give him great credit for almost always scooping everyone else on what is new and interesting.

BTW... I'm leaving for a week. I very much look forward to seeing your ALA/BG info.

Thanks.

Acetyl-L-Tyrosine is a more bio-available form of L-Tyrosine.

I use it on OFF-stimulant weeks. 10-12g/day will make the
lethargy see after an ECA cycle go away really
quickly.

Cheap too. BAC 100g for $7

Fonz

 

[Fonz]

So much for Fonz answering my question. I posted in here twice and PM'd you once dude.

I did answer it.

With your ECA and 6-7 sugar-free TUMS with it.

That will get rid of the acid-in-your gut feeling.

Fonz

 

[rangerx83]

2 questions:

1. Whats dosage of ALC

2. Where did you buy the ALC from(Purity counts)

I'm starting my Mega-nootropic stack now for
University(Start. Jan) si this interest me.

Fonz

1) 500mg to 1000mg. ALC + 3-4 r-ALA first thing in the morning on empty stomach.
Wait (if possible) 30-45 minutes before having breakfast. (Then I do the usual r-ALA with breakfast, but I don't do any ALC)


2)From the same place I got my original racemic ALA, Vitamine Shop, price $43.77 for 90 500mg capsules.


I really like the combo. Here's the most dramatic thing I noticed about using the combo for 1 month:

I'm 41.5, and I slowly started noticing that running down (or even walking downstairs) was starting to get increasingly diffficult. We all take for granted that our feet will know where to go next, even at a rapid rate when going downstairs, but I started feeling the effects of aging; Sometimes I just couldn't figure out where to put my foot next. I even started using the handrails to walk, for fear that I would literally fall on my face. I've been doing r-ALA + ALC at the above mentioned dosage and I'm now able to actually run down the stairs without fear of falling! The only limit now is my messed up knees, but that's a different story.


RangerX83

 

[ryce]

Been there done that weeks ago.

I was the first person in the US to have research samples of Acetyl-L-Carnitine for commercial use. That was many many years ago. I have always been an enormous fan. (The real blessing has been watching raw materials prices come down over the last 10 or so years. It is now in the affordable range.) There were some amazing products developed with it (and other substances) years ago that never made it to market because they were not remotely cost effective.

I've been playing with different synergistic nootropic stacks for a while.
.

Sofa, what do you do for a living?