ALA and r-ALA are the same.

[Animal]

Fonz did the research and 600mg of ALA is better than ANY amount of r-ALA.

Supplement #4: R-ALA

Dosages: 200mg R-ALA, 400mg R-ALA , 600mg R-ALA.
(From AF www.anabolicfitness.net
Food = 500kcal, 6g Fat, 14.3g protein, 98g Carbs (Sugars = 47.5g)

Nutrient breakdown = 11% Fat/ 11% Protein / 78% carbs (Fibre = 1.5g)

Dose 1: 200mg R-ALA

Initial BG measurement: 70mg/dl Temp: 36.9C(98.4F)
(Eat food as described above)

T+1hr Measurement: 110mg/dl Temp: 36.8C(98.2F)

T+2hrs Measurement: 80mg/dl Temp: 37.0C(98.6F)

T+3hrs Measurement: 75mg/dl Temp: 36.9C(98.4F)

T+4hrs Measurement: 70mg/dl Temp: 37.1C(98.8F)

Area under positive BG Curve(Taking initial BG measurement as the horizontal) =

20 + 10 + 15 + 5 + 2.5 + 2.5 = 55 Units Squared

Dose 2: 400mg R-ALA

Initial BG measurement: 70mg/dl Temp: 36.8C(98.2F)
(Eat food as described above)

T+1hr Measurement: 95mg/dl Temp: 36.8C(98.2F)

T+2hrs Measurement: 80mg/dl Temp: 37.0C(98.6F)

T+3hrs Measurement: 70mg/dl Temp: 37.0C(98.6F)

T+4hrs Measurement: 60mg/dl Temp: 36.9C(98.4F)

Area under positive BG Curve(Taking initial BG measurement as the horizontal) =

12.5 + 10 + 7.5 + 5 = 35 Units squared

Area under negative BG Curve(Taking initial BG measurement as the horizontal) =

0.5(10) = 5 Units squared

Dose 3: 600mg R-ALA

Initial BG measurement: 80mg/dl Temp: 36.9C(98.4F)
(Eat food as described above)

T+1hr Measurement: 100mg/dl Temp: 36.9C(98.4F)

T+2hrs Measurement: 90mg/dl Temp: 36.9C(98.4F)

T+3hrs Measurement: 75mg/dl Temp: 36.9C(98.4F)

T+4hrs Measurement: 70mg/dl Temp: 37.0C(98.6F)

Area under positive BG Curve(Taking initial BG measurement as the horizontal) =

10 + 10 + 5 + 3.33 = 28.33 Units squared

Area under negative BG Curve(Taking initial BG measurement as the horizontal) =

5 + 2.5 + 0.83 = 8.33 Units squared

R-ALA Analysis:
(Units squared)
Positive Area Negative Area Total Area

Dose 1(200mg): 55.0 0.0 55.00

Dose 2(400mg): 35.0 5.0 40.00

Dose 3(600mg): 28.33 8.33 36.67

Comparison to Placebo:

Placebo: 76.57 units squared(mean total Area)

(600mg R-ALA)(36.67 Units Squared) 36.67/76.57 = (1-47.89%) = 52.11% reduction

(400mg R-ALA)(40.00 Units Squared) 40.0/76.57 = (1-52.24%) = 47.76% reduction

(200mg R-ALA)(55.00 Units Squared) 55.0/76.57 = (1-71.83%) = 28.17% reduction

Supplement #5: ALA

Dosages: 600mg ALA, 1200mg ALA , 1800mg ALA.



Food = 500kcal, 6g Fat, 14.3g protein, 98g Carbs (Sugars = 47.5g)

Nutrient breakdown = 11% Fat/ 11% Protein / 78% carbs (Fibre = 1.5g)

Dose 1: 600mg ALA

Initial BG measurement: 65mg/dl Temp: 36.7C(98.1F)
(Eat food as described above)

T+1hr Measurement: 100mg/dl Temp: 36.8C(98.2F)

T+2hrs Measurement: 75mg/dl Temp: 36.8C(98.2F)

T+3hrs Measurement: 75mg/dl Temp: 36.8C(98.2F)

T+4hrs Measurement: 70mg/dl Temp: 37.0C(98.6F)

Area under positive BG Curve(Taking initial BG measurement as the horizontal) =

17.5 + 22.5 + 17.5 = 57.5 Units Squared

 

[Fonz]

You need remedial math.

Look at the numbers. 1800mg ALA caused a 47.76% drop in BG.

And 400mg R-ALA caused a 47% drop.

While 600mg R-ALA caused a 52% drop.

As can be CLEARLY seen R-ALA is 3-4X more potent mg per mg in clearing glucose from the blood stream.

Fonz

 

[DeepZenPill]

Animal selling ALA now? Why the hell is he out to discredit r-ala?

 

[Ulter]

It's not the supp bro. It's me he hates. It goes way back. Just ignore him.

 

[variation]

and glucose clearance isn't the only factor that makes r-ala differ from ala in terms of benefits...

 

[Dr. M]

You can't really blame animal for what he's doing...

(cue the narrator)
He was a street-smart fish-out-of-water, stuck in a world he never made...
(tell the narrator to beat it)

Uh, actually, he just has a hate-on for ulter, and he's trying to cook up facts and figures using Fonz's study...
... and Fonz himself has pointed out how wrong animal is on TWO separate occasions regarding the SAME issue!

Seriously, I think it's time that we put this baby to bed.

-M

 

[BonerBoy]

You can't really blame animal for what he's doing...

He was a street-smart fish-out-of-water, stuck in a world he never made...

LOL

 

[DaMan]

plasma insulin levels.

 

[chordz]

Whats a good source of ALA? Is the ALA in flax seed oil the same?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Whats a good source of ALA? for r-ala -- glucorellR Is the ALA in flax seed oil the same? NO

 

[E23]

Just buy some R-ALA and some biotin from a raw materials manufacturer, tell them what purity you expect then test it after it arrives or you could save a few thousand $ and just buy Glucorell from AF.

 

[mt]

I'm with Ulter. Animal is a delusional, arrogant, condescending, anti-American ingrate. If the Patriot Act was as bad as he makes it out to be he would have been thrown out of this country or hanging upside down in a Federal prison. What are you doing on this board anyway, you self-righteous, whiny, conceited little prick? You would always bash this board and say how we are all a bunch of idiots.

It feels so good to be critical of you without being edited or banned by your "Site Nazi." You who whine and cry about censorship and oppression do far worse when you're in "power."
Typical of a delusion, self-absorbed tyrant such as yourself. Get off this board and get out of this country that you profit from but hate so much! Still cheering for Taliban John and calling Michael Moore a hero? You contemptible, ungrateful, whiny little shit.

 

[mt]

BTW, wasn't it Fonz that was also banned from your boad after he was getting the better of you in an argument? I wonder how you'd handle yourself against him in a forum where you don't make the rules?

 

[manny78]

When was the last time a thread made by Animal didnt turn ugly ?

 

[BonerBoy]

Just buy some R-ALA and some biotin from a raw materials manufacturer, tell them what purity you expect then test it after it arrives or you could save a few thousand $ and just buy Glucorell from AF.

Actualy if you find a supp you like and plan on taking it for a long time you can save alot of money by capping powders yourself

paying retail for all your supps can run into some serious cash

 

[matto18]

"Actualy if you find a supp you like and plan on taking it for a long time you can save alot of money by capping powders yourself

paying retail for all your supps can run into some serious cash"


amen dude. i have a ton of r-ala powder and biotin i'm getting ready to cap and i guarantee you it will save me a shit-ton in the long run. i'm also capping my b5 these days too. if you've got a few minutes, it doesn't take too long to cap hellz of this stuff...