Advice needed

[muscle2012]

Hey ya all

I have a few questions and need some answers & advice…

I’m 33 years old, fit & healthy and never before been on any kind of steroids.

I’m about to finish my 12 week cycle of Depo-Testorone. I’ve taken 200 ml per week. I’ve also been taking Kessar 20mg (for an estrogen blocker) one a day from the start of my cycle.

I want to know when I should start with my PCT and the required dosage per day? I’ve been advised to take Clomid or should I rather take Nolvadex and how long should my PCT cycle last?

I really haven’t gained a lot of muscle during the time I was using Depo-Testorone (actually disappointing) and was thinking about taking Sustanon & Deca for my next cycle. Is that a good direction or should I take something else?

Any advice for my next cycle? Should I take both (sus & deca) at the same time and what would be the required dosage per day or week? Also should I take an Estrogen Blocker again from day 1? If so, any recommendations?

Lastly, the Depo-Testosterone has caused some decrease size in my testicles. I have heard Pregnyl is a good product to gain back testicle size. So I got Pregnyl 1500. Can I use that while I’m on my PCT and how much should the dosage per day/week be?

Thanx guys, I really appreciate your time & advice

 

[Judo Tom]

what were your gains?
what was your diet?
what was your routine?

 

[muscle2012]

Very true and inspiring words - thanx!
Well I workout 5 times a week for about an hour session which consists out of cardio 20 min and the rest weights.
I would say I have lost some fat round my belly and gained about 3 kg in weight. Not sure about how much muscle I gained.
I guess after I started my first cycle I have hoped/suspected far better results than what is currently being reflected by the mirror.
I am not on a specific diet - I've cut out all the "wrong" food and measure my portions of intake.
Indeed I want to learn from the mistakes of others and thats the reason why I have joined this site.
Any other advice on my earlier questions?

 

[Judo Tom]

def stay clear of deca for a while

read up on some much better ideas for pct my favorites are unleashed, post cycle and formastanzol

i hate nolva and clomid in the way they are typically used for pct

i would wait 2 weeks after your last shot and start pct then

you did not gain much for a few reasons

might not have ate enough
might not have worked out 'correctly' ie lack of intensity, too much volume, wrong routine
your dose was low 200mg is a very low dose. next time i would go w/ 400-500mg

hope that helps

 

[muscle2012]

Do you think it is possible to gain good results without using steroids?
I have a million questions and get millions of different answers for the same question. So its very confusing and I guess dangerous to just randomly use stuff.
Do you perhaps know of any pro's or specialized people i can talk about cycles etc. as my gp (doctor) is totally unhelpful. It seems everyone has their own opinion about a steroid and the usage therefor.

 

[dylangemelli]

Do you think it is possible to gain good results without using steroids?
I have a million questions and get millions of different answers for the same question. So its very confusing and I guess dangerous to just randomly use stuff.
Do you perhaps know of any pro's or specialized people i can talk about cycles etc. as my gp (doctor) is totally unhelpful. It seems everyone has their own opinion about a steroid and the usage therefor.

you most definitely can make good gains without steroids my man... you should only use steroids once you have reached plateaus you just can't get over... basically your true genetic potential... i waited years to see if i can could get past certain areas before i realized i just couldn't... people don't take the time though... they don't try new things... i tweaked things in every which way possible before i decided to start taking them...

dependent upon your goals, i can most definitely set you up on a proper cycle but you have a while until you get to that point... you have to finish this and run a proper pct and take the proper amount of time off first...

your pct should look like this: clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 the unleashed/post cycle combo and forma stanzol...

 

[Judo Tom]

definitely dont just use stuff randomly.

I truly think this board is the best place for new comers. Do a lot of research. Research some of the legal pro hormones / pro steroids. They are a great way to get your feet wet and blast through some sticking points.

Just post up questions and you will get good answers from the mods/vets on this forum.

 

[RickRock13]

Do you think it is possible to gain good results without using steroids?
I have a million questions and get millions of different answers for the same question. So its very confusing and I guess dangerous to just randomly use stuff.
Do you perhaps know of any pro's or specialized people i can talk about cycles etc. as my gp (doctor) is totally unhelpful. It seems everyone has their own opinion about a steroid and the usage therefor.

The truth of the matter is that if you don't know how to make gains without steroids, then you will not make gains with them either. Diet and training have to be correct for the goal, no matter if you use anabolics or not

 

[muscle2012]

True indeed!
As earlier mentioned I'm about the finished my ever first cycle of 12 weeks (Depo Test 200ml p/week) soon.
I've realized that the dosage should have been at least 300.
Any suggestions for my next cycle?
I have gained some muscle though and I'm on a diet and workout 5 times a week.

 

[RickRock13]

True indeed!
As earlier mentioned I'm about the finished my ever first cycle of 12 weeks (Depo Test 200ml p/week) soon.
I've realized that the dosage should have been at least 300.
Any suggestions for my next cycle?
I have gained some muscle though and I'm on a diet and workout 5 times a week.

We need your full stats before giving out cycle advice bro.

Rules are rules

 

[muscle2012]

1.8 meter tall
98Kg
13% body fat

 

[muscle2012]

33 Years age

 

[joeblow12345]

Bro you dont need 300 mgs week to make gains. My first cycle I used 250.mgs test e a week and gained 15lbs in 10 Weeks. Diet, training, and rest is everything on cycle and off. If you want to grow you need to eat. I see people on here all the time saying I cant gain weight, then you find out they eat like a bird. Eat like the man you want to be not the man you are. If you wanna gain weight you should never be hungry. You should have to force feed yourself.