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Addicted to GHB

Re: Re: Re: Addicted to GHB

pgerardone said:

I have read reports that the detox from ghb is worse then heroin and can cause a massive long term depression.


and these reports are where? they were by whom? they were backed by scientific proof?

there are many scientific studies that go exactly against what you say.

on the other hand, there are plenty of websites out there with an agneda against and they use misinformation - like many anti-anythings will use propaganda to make their side look better.
standard psychology stuff man.

if you can point me to a well controlled study - even just one, that uses the propure procedures to back what you say, then I might start thinking along your lines - but until then, I think you are mislead.

you alread said in another post that you were addicted to other drugs - the problem with ghb is when you use it with other drugs or alcohol.
 
HumanShell said:


While I was able to control consumption, only using it when going to a party, out to the movies with my girl etc.


That is exactly what im talkin about, so far the people who are anti-ghb are because they, or someone they knew abused ghb, low doses before bed, thats IT
 
BigPsyco said:



That is exactly what im talkin about, so far the people who are anti-ghb are because they, or someone they knew abused ghb, low doses before bed, thats IT



Well, I took it recreationally, not just to sleep. I'm 100% for the legalization of GHB. If seriously abused, it will affect different people different ways. I stated that I went on binges, and suffered no after effects when stopping cold turkey. My friend on the other hand, nearly died. The nurses said that if he had not gone to get his father, and just tried to sleep it off/wait it out, his parents would have found him dead the next morning because of how high his pulse was, and how it was still accelerating.


I will say though, that after my friend was out of the hospital, about 5 months later, he made the decision to use some more GHB while watching wrestling PPV's, or when going out, with no problem. It was abusing it throughout the day for two years that fucked him up.
 
Re: Re: Re: Addicted to GHB

pgerardone said:

Fonz, this is not bullshit. You are just another one addicted to ghb and trying to justify it. But It gets me pissed that you put this shit out on here so people can read this garbage and go out and get addicted themselves. I know for a fact that ghb is addictive and that it is physically addictive. I have read reports that the detox from ghb is worse then heroin and can cause a massive long term depression. If you want to fuck your life up with this garbage and justify it to yourself fine. But don't try to convince everyone that ghb is a safe substance. The fact that you have been on it for 4 years speaks to your ignorance and to the fact that you have a seroius problem with addiction. Do what you want want with your life but to advise others that ghb is ok to use is irresponsible.

Addicted to GHB? me? What a HOOT!!!

You know NOTHING ABOUT ME.

I use GHB to get the most refreshing sleep possible, because
I HAVE A LOT OF WORK IN UNI. I only sleep 4 maybe
5 hours/night because the course-load for my
masters is horrendous. Thanks to the ghb I am able
to feel "refreshed" upon waking up. It decreses the time
taken to enter REM sleep.

YOU ARE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE HERE PAL.

I went through MASSES of studies published in the 1960's
and 1970's regarding GHB, and in NONE was it EVER found
to be physiologically addicitve. Psychologically yes,
physiologically NO
I WOULD NOT HAVE USED IT IF IT WAS PHYSIOLOGICALLY
ADDICTIVE. That simple.

Plus, when out-of-school I RARELY USE IT. Only as
an alcohol-replacement.

So don't give me this BS about WITHDRAWAL.

If by some miracle someone gets withdrawal, USE
YOUR FRIGGING BRAIN FOR A CHANGE and
TAPER-DOWN the dosage!!! over a 1-2 week period.

You're not talking to an irresponsible guy here, I VERY MUCH
research to death everything before even trying it.

Try doing it sometime.

Godspeed
 
this monday in the fort worth star newspaper they ran a piece on ghb that was identical to what you posted. I did not believe the piece at first, but now...?
 
I would say something but NCLifter has already laid it out in cold hard facts. Bottom line is if YOU have a problem with addictive behavior then GHB (or anything else) is not for you - but dont blame the G for an addictive nature.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Addicted to GHB

Fonz said:

You're not talking to an irresponsible guy here, I VERY MUCH
research to death everything before even trying it.

Try doing it sometime.



--totally agree with that... as should everyone do before they try something new that can affect them..
 
CYCLEON said:
I would say something but NCLifter has already laid it out in cold hard facts. Bottom line is if YOU have a problem with addictive behavior then GHB (or anything else) is not for you - but dont blame the G for an addictive nature.

EXACTLY.

In fact, the guy had a drug problem to begin with.

He's just a weak-willed individual. That simple.

Godspeed
 
Fonz, if you can handle it and if you only use it for sleep go bless you. But there are many out there who are dependant on it and take capfuls through the whole day. The problem is that when someone new to ghb tries it there is no guarantee that they will not become one of those who end up hooked on it. And believe me that when you use ghb all day long for an extended period of time there is physical withdrawal and it is not pleasant. Many become severely depressed upon cessation of ghb once dependant on it. There are so many safer way to get sleep if you have a problem. Ambien works great with no hangover and you can get it easily from your doctor(legally). Also with ambien you don't pop up awake after 4 hours like with ghb and have to take more. Ghb is a nasty and dangerous drug that has no place in bodybuilding.
 
pgerardone said:
Also with ambien you don't pop up awake after 4 hours like with ghb and have to take more. Ghb is a nasty and dangerous drug that has no place in bodybuilding.



One of the things I like about GHB is the ability it gives you to get a "full" night of sleep in only 4 hours. Great if you have to stay up all night studying, and be up early for school/work/training etc...
 
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