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Acouple TRT questions?

Fatboy1984

Fatboy1984

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Im shortly gonna get on the TRT boat with some of you guys. Im only 25 ive ran 2 cycles. and ive takin about every PCT drug and natural shit like TRS, Forged PCT, Unleashed... all that. Cant get my natty test over 330??
How much HCG do you guys usually go through in a year?
I was gonna run 150-200mg test Cyp a week... you think thatll cause gyno probs?
Is there any crash at all after your cycles? Do you still break out etc..?
I know its still uncommon grounds but you think TRT leads to more heart problems down the road?

Any help or answeres are appreciated.. thanks guys.
 
The Question is why????? why at such a young age do you want to mess up you're body by getting on TRT,you realize that doing so will put you on TRT the rest of your life as your body will no longer have a need to make it's own test.

Bad idea.

RADAR
 
Yes i realize that. But my body doesnt do to good at making its own test anyway right now.... So i dont feel like im loosing to much. I already have kids too. and my wife and i are done with that... so i feel the question is why not? What else does it screw up in my body.. If your natty test is low, its low. Why does age matter so much?
 
Are you working with a Endo or is this self admin .



Brad.
 
I just had one last blood test, to verify i am still low. Ill know the results in acouple more days. I know its gonna be though. Its always very dissapointing. Im working with an endo right now, and it seems like shell write me out a script if she thinks its low enough. But im thinking that if she doesnt id do it on my own. Im sick of having low test, and im sick of just starting to look good on a cycle and than "Bam" looking soft and shitty afterwards. I have all the symptoms of low test. wanting to sleep all day, feel out of it while im awake, depressed, ill lose most of the fat on my mid section even in short cycles, and than right after the cycle is done it starts to creep back up on me.
Honestly i just think if you have shitty genetics and have low test, why does it matter your age. i know theres pros and cons.... but if lifting and doing athletic sports like Bodybuilding, why be held back with something just because most people say to wait. Chances are ill do acouple more cycles and have to for sure get on in 1-2 years anyway... its only gonna get worse from here.
 
Fatboy1984 said:
it was about 6 months. after a 9 week cycle.
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With a good PCT? Yeah, that's kinda low, especially ate your age.

Hey, you may be genuinely a little hypogonadal. I hate to advise anyone to goon HRT but you may have a legitimate need. Well, it isn't "technically" dangerously low, but gains will be very difficult for you with only that much.

I'd say, give it one more PCT and try again. If it's still down, you're lifer.
 
Go see an endo. and see if you can get hcg and or hmg.

A fried of mine who was in worse shape than you and was on AAS for over 2 years made a full recovery after 6 months of therapy.

It can be done IF you don't want to use test for the rest of your life.

I can lay out the exact protocol if you want.
 
Thanks for the info guys. Im finishing up this last PCT that im in right now so that i can give it one more good chance.

And fudge funnel ive done a blood test before i ever even started cycling and my test was 390... still very low. I dont really have faith that i can maintain a higher test level than that ever since thats what i started with.
 
anyone have any answeres to these questions?

How much hcg do you guys usually go through in a year?
I was gonna run 150-200mg test Cyp a week... you think thatll cause gyno probs?
Is there any crash at all after your cycles? Do you still break out etc..?
I know its still uncommon grounds but you think TRT leads to more heart problems down the road?
 
Fatboy1984 said:
anyone have any answeres to these questions?

How much hcg do you guys usually go through in a year?

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I was gonna run 150-200mg test Cyp a week... you think thatll cause gyno probs?

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USE POST CYCLE AND 1/4 OF ADEX 2x's a week AND YOU SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEMS.


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Is there any crash at all after your cycles? Do you still break out etc..?
I know its still uncommon grounds but you think TRT leads to more heart problems down the road?

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ONCE YOU'RE ON HRT YOU CAN DO AN OCCASIONAL MILD CYCLE WITH NO CRASH BUT IF YOU DO A LONG, HARD CYCLE YOU CAN MESS YOURSELF UP. DON'T.
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Thanks nelson. Yeah i was thinking 2 cycles a year. Propably just 8-10 weekers.

If your already shut down from being on HRT for awhile. How come you get more messed up if you run a longer cycle. you talking like a 6 month cycle. Longest cycle i would personally ever consider would be 14 weeks.. if i was using really long esthers like EQ or somthing
 
150-200mg a week is on the high side...I would do 100mg a week. There are no health problems with TRT, as long as you keep your levels inside what is considered "normal" range. Still, keep working with your doctor.
 
Fatboy1984 said:
Thanks nelson. Yeah i was thinking 2 cycles a year. Propably just 8-10 weekers.

If your already shut down from being on HRT for awhile. How come you get more messed up if you run a longer cycle. you talking like a 6 month cycle. Longest cycle i would personally ever consider would be 14 weeks.. if i was using really long esthers like EQ or somthing
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Because the success of HRT is based on creating a hormonal balance. If it swings too far off, it's hard to settle in.
 
Gotcha. Thanks for all the help guys.
Im rolling this last PCT out and in a month ill get another blood test and see what my levels are. If i can even just get it above 400 i dont think ill do it till later. But lower than that, i know its only gonna get worse. Than ill start 100mg test C, and about a month and a half get a blood test and add or subtract alittle to get into the normal high range.
Thanks guys
 
Nelson Montana said:
What do you mean by "cruising?"
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well as mentioned in a thread i posted few wks back, im 42 in feb..have done 3 test e, dbol 12 weekers in last 3 years,.each time i gain 10-14 lbs i lose it all after pct ,.2 monhts after my last pct of nolva and sustain i had test levels checked ,came back just over 300.so maybe my natty low level test is reason i always lose gains each time.i dont know what is was before i touched aas .unfortunetly.so seeing as im 42 have been considering .blast cruising .as in 10 weeks of 500mg test e ,then 8 weeks cruise on 250mg every ten days before doin another cycle of 500mgs.then i will come of with pct .have levels checked 6 weeks later and decide if trt is for me.
 
skaman007 said:
well as mentioned in a thread i posted few wks back, im 42 in feb..have done 3 test e, dbol 12 weekers in last 3 years,.each time i gain 10-14 lbs i lose it all after pct ,.2 monhts after my last pct of nolva and sustain i had test levels checked ,came back just over 300.so maybe my natty low level test is reason i always lose gains each time.i dont know what is was before i touched aas .unfortunetly.so seeing as im 42 have been considering .blast cruising .as in 10 weeks of 500mg test e ,then 8 weeks cruise on 250mg every ten days before doin another cycle of 500mgs.then i will come of with pct .have levels checked 6 weeks later and decide if trt is for me.
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At this point, cycling to gain big and then hold onto it may not be a great idea. HRt with a little assistance (i.e and extra 100 mgs of primo) may be best. Then you can do a mild 6 weeker once or twice a year.

After the mid 40's gains are limited, and big leaps in weight can increase BP.
 
nelson montana said:
at this point, cycling to gain big and then hold onto it may not be a great idea. Hrt with a little assistance (i.e and extra 100 mgs of primo) may be best. Then you can do a mild 6 weeker once or twice a year.

After the mid 40's gains are limited, and big leaps in weight can increase bp.
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and how do use hcg on a regime like that?i was thinking one shot of 2500ius every 8 weeks ...i know smaller and more frequent is more common ,but i have issues keeping it in the fridge at home.
 
skaman007 said:
and how do use hcg on a regime like that?i was thinking one shot of 2500ius every 8 weeks ...i know smaller and more frequent is more common ,but i have issues keeping it in the fridge at home.
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You can split it in half a few days apart. That's plenty.
 
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