Abortion-do women have the right to kill?

[Dante Alighieri]

Do me a favor and define 'ethics'.

You use analogues and fancy vocabulary yet you can't define a simple a word as "ethics"?

Dont wory bor - I wont hold it aganst u.

 

[plornive]

You use analogues and fancy vocabulary yet you can't define a simple a word as "ethics"?

Dont wory bor - I wont hold it aganst u.

Thanks bro. But I am still intersted in your definition.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

Thanks bro. But I am still intersted in your definition.

Can't seem to find my dictionary - my desk is a mess!

When I find it I'll let you know

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Can't seem to find my dictionary - my desk is a mess!

When I find it I'll let you know

"Ethics" is slippery.

 

[atlantabiolab]

christ almighty, i wonder how many of these threads are on this site with the exact same topic.

Bottom line already is that it's anyones opinion as to what is considered a human life and what rights women have to anything going on with their own bodies.

Everything is not anybody's opinion. The world is not subjective, you do not get to define anything you wish simply because you desire. The world is, and you attempt to understand it. If its anyone's opinion on when life begins, then I guess murderers should be set free; maybe they decided that those they killed were not "human life". The woman who killed her five children should be exonerated of all charges; she defined life differently than what her children were, and who are we to disagree with her??

You can argue this shit up and down left and fucking right till the cows come home and you will never ever be right or wrong.

Simply because the debate exists for years, does not mean that no one is right. Last time I checked man believed that the world was flat for centuries, in contradiction to reality and what some reasoned men argued. Was no one correct because the debate lasted for years??? Did the world suddenly become round after people accepted this premise??

Abortion threads always pull in those who are advocates of the "philosophy of stupidity". As much as pro-abortion advocates condescend the religious right anti-abortionists for their weak stance, they too stand on a argument of shit.

I will probably never stop being amazed at the CHOSEN ignorance, the DESIRED ignorance of pro-abortion advocates. Most know my position on this issue and those whom I've debated base all of their arguments on one issue: ignorance of truth. If they cannot hold to ignorance of truth, if they actually realized that their is a black and white, and not everything gray, then they would have nothing to base their beliefs on, thus they espouse total ignorance. "We don't know when life begins?", "Who are you to tell a woman what to do?", "Who's morality?", ad nauseum. Everything is moral ambiguity, until, of course, it affected them personally -I am sure none of these pro-abortion advocates would ever claim moral ignorance if they were raped, robbed, beaten, scammed, etc. Immediately moral clarity would set in; the issue would be black and white instantly. But such is not the case in this issue, because they do not wish to ever know, for it would deprive them of their true desire -to have no responsibility -thus they will never seek the answers, for knowledge of reality is contrary to their whole position.

We live in the Age of Stupidity, we uphold stupidity, we teach it to our children, and we love it.

 

[Mandinka2]

Everything is not anybody's opinion.

I will probably never stop being amazed at the CHOSEN ignorance, the DESIRED ignorance of pro-abortion advocates.

We live in the Age of Stupidity, we uphold stupidity, we teach it to our children, and we love it.

Don't agree entirely with the last one but aside from that solid post! (I think we live in an era where we prefer not to let our children think for themselves , we have them watch flags be raised and sing anthems and say "trust us , don't think about it")

 

[Apöllo]

Don't agree entirely with the last one but aside from that solid post! (I think we live in an era where we prefer not to let our children think for themselves , we have them watch flags be raised and sing anthems and say "trust us , don't think about it")

Is it really safe to let children think for themselves?

 

[Mandinka2]

Is it really safe to let children think for themselves?

LMAO!!!

 

[velvett]

If a woman is so called responsible enough to make a decision to get an abortion.where was responsible woman when she got knocked up?

Fair enough.

Have you ever had uprotected sex?

 

[velvett]

Your inference indirectly assumes women to be irresponsible victims. If a woman consents to sex without sufficient protection, she is just as responsible as her partner. If you had sex without protection, and got pregnant, would you blame the man more than yourself? Would that mean you were unwilling to accept the potential consequences of your actions?

Either women are irresponsible and lack rights regarding their zygotes/fetuses/babies, OR women are responsible and have rights regarding their zygotes/fetuses/babies. This is one reason I am pro-abortion. I will not blame myself more than any girl I unintentionally impregnate. It would be her choice as well as mine.

The statement you quoted of mind does sound one sided yet, if I were to ramble on endlessly as I have in the past one would be able to know that is not how I feel. Truly, I think women have to have more responsiblity for birth control than a man. Bottom line is - it's her body and after she's pregnant she's the one that has to try and bring the child to term and raise it. The man can back out at any time.

A man is no more responsible that the woman regarding an accidental pregnancies but the woman should be more responsible than the man because the human fetus is in her body - with her body the human fetus would not have the opportunity to grow.

This ignores the idea of a zygote/fetus having it's own independent legal status, or the idea that it is simply wrong to terminate such regardless of any rights. I reject these two ideas because I don't consider a zygote/fetus to be complete human life with full rights, and I don't have any moral feeling regarding abortion.

I couldn't agree more.