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A word or two about seduction from a woman's POV

RottenWillow

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Bottom line is if you're hot then your scam can be cornball. We're not stupid. We know what you want and we know what we want. No player's guide neccessary.

If the face and bod is happening then we want you to succeed in perpetrating your scam but due to our need to protect our own self esteem (i.e. not feeling like we're giving it away) we still need you to work at it for a while. You understand? There is a dance that must be danced before there's any hookups.

But for me personally if I'm not down for the nasty then then I tell it straight up front. "Are you trying to hook up, cuz it's totally fine if you are?" "You are? Cool, but it aint gonna happen with me and you might want to spend your time and money elsewhere".


As for the average and maybe below average looking guys, your degree of successful scammage is going to be heavily dependent on the girl's self knowledge. If she is unsure of herself and/or unsure of what she really wants then your play IS going to be much more important.
 
Why call it a scam? This perpetuates the myth that men only want sex and girls just go along with it. Bullshit, I say girls love sex just as much if not more.

It's this sort of thing that makes many men feel like they're doing something morally wrong when they come onto a girl.
 
casualbb said:
Why call it a scam? This perpetuates the myth that men only want sex and girls just go along with it.

It's just a word Casual. It's the word a lot of people use, i.e pick-up, play, game, scam. I dont use it in a derrogative way.


casualbb said:
Bullshit, I say girls love sex just as much if not more.

Of course we do. And I dont think any man should feel like he's doing something covert or wrong when he's trying to get his game on.
 
juve said:
This being the integral part! Haha, well put...

It is still necessary because guys will call a girl a slut with a guickness that hooks them up too soon. If everyone could just be cool about it we could be adults, both get what we want, and move on.
 
velvett said:
Mmmmm seduction.

I remember when leave suggestive notes and poems on cars wasn't known as stalking.


yeah really. wtf happened??

I used to do that to girls I liked in HS. nothing too lovey or anything, but highly sensual. Now, I am not so sure how women would react to that.
 
what if im really ugly, face and body...

can i get some tips anya, or am i trash that should stick to lotion and pictures of women section?
 
SublimeZM said:
what if im really ugly, face and body...

can i get some tips anya, or am i trash that should stick to lotion and pictures of women section?

cash, money --> hoes :o
alternative route => sedative/anxiolytic drugs...bar/party...getting pasted with uncoscious chick...jail :wilted: :hed:

no wonder so many women claim looks are overrated :martini: :hed:
 
SublimeZM said:
what if im really ugly, face and body...

can i get some tips anya, or am i trash that should stick to lotion and pictures of women section?

I try to hold out Faith that women aren't that shallow, unfortunately like men, they have their share that give everybody a bad name.I just keep running into those, instead of the deserving ones.
 
anya, you also assume that the game of all guys is obvious. If I were trying to get into your panties, you probably wouldn't even realize that I wanted you.
 
Anya, how do you define "scamming."

When I was younger, pretty much the only time I'd even bother talking to a girl is if I was trying to boink her ASAP. As I've matured (somewhat), a lot of the time I just like to make conversation without having any expectations -- if I get a phone number or whatever, that's cool, but if not thats cool too. Is that still considered "scamming" or is it something else?
 
Nice post anya, I have never heard it better said. I am usually out every single weekend playing the "game" and most women react exactly as you said. I can walk up and say the most dumb ass comment ever known to man and have girls love it. I know this isn't due to my charisma but more because the girl wants me to be funny so she can get in my pants :artist: Also for those of us who aren't Brad Pitt, there is always alcohol, you can count on that old friend to up your looks any day :)
 
AlbinoRhino said:
Nice post anya, I have never heard it better said. I am usually out every single weekend playing the "game" and most women react exactly as you said. I can walk up and say the most dumb ass comment ever known to man and have girls love it. I know this isn't due to my charisma but more because the girl wants me to be funny so she can get in my pants :artist: Also for those of us who aren't Brad Pitt, there is always alcohol, you can count on that old friend to up your looks any day :)


you see I find this type of shit as a problem

I have this girl in one of my classes in college who Ive been friends with since HS, she wanted to be more than friends at some point but shes kinda boring to me and too nice, plus I already hooked up with her sister way before I met her so I didnt think it would work out anyway

now in this class theres a guy who really really digs this girl, however she doesnt like him so she is kinda mean to him, never laughs at funny shit he says and than I say somethin thats not even funny and shes crackin up... stuff like that and I find that kinda gay especially since shes known to be a "nice" girl... I feel kinda sorry for the guy


these days if you're talking with the girl it means your hittin on her, and if you try to let her know that ur not tryin to get some from her she moves onto the next guy...

if I was to ask a girl to come have a drink with me somewhere be it just water she would most likely consider it as a date or as me hittin on her






the only real solution to this I see is to have a girlfriend but than some girls want you even more and its kinda hard to resist


either way I think its a messed up world we live in
 
everygirl has the same story

"yeah im straight up i tell the guys...." BULLSHIT

or "im not like those other girls.."

or "i dont want you to think im a slut..."

"i usally dont do this..."

blah blah

I visit elderly people once a month at a local nursing home, bring them food and talk to them, funny how the older ladies sometimes cry on how they where all stuck up and they could of had this guy and that guy and this and that... every girl should go talk to them and learn for once to get real sooner rather then later and guys are a big number game <---- keyword
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
anya, you also assume that the game of all guys is obvious. If I were trying to get into your panties, you probably wouldn't even realize that I wanted you.

I would assume you were trying to get into my panties. You'd have to prove otherwise, which takes a lot of time.


Taps I think you bring up a good point. In general I think people are less ruled by their hormones as they get older. Maybe it's just maturation, or maybe hormonal changes, or maybe both. But I see men and women in their '40's and older doing a lot more causal socializing without the ever present sexual subcontext that between teens and people in their '20's.

And I'd say scamming is when you go in with the primary intent of trying to hook up that booty.
 
anya, not if I just appeared to lose interest at the begining of our conversation and started glancing at other girls walking by. No, you would be like, "hey... why isn't this guy giving me any attention....wtf?"
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
anya, not if I just appeared to lose interest at the begining of our conversation and started glancing at other girls walking by. No, you would be like, "hey... why isn't this guy giving me any attention....wtf?"

LOLOLOL. That's a well known angle. Technique #231, Dont pay the girl too much attention.


A woman is like one of those preschooler games where you have to fit the geometric shapes into the appropriate slots in the board. You have to figure out which technique works best with which woman, but unlike the game you often only get one shot with each attempt. If you try #231 and she's like "this guy's a dick" you may not get the opportunity to try a different approach.
 
anya, true, and I do my best to figure out what approach to use ahead of time. If it fails, oh well, there are 200 other attractive girls in the club... Anywho, whos to say I'm not actually more interested in the girls walking by and am letting her know she needs to prove herself.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
anya, true, and I do my best to figure out what approach to use ahead of time. If it fails, oh well, there are 200 other attractive girls in the club...

Very true.



BodyByFinaplix said:
Anywho, whos to say I'm not actually more interested in the girls walking by and am letting her know she needs to prove herself.

And that could happen. All depends on her expectations of how hook ups are supposed to go.
 
So anya, the point is, with me, you probably wouldn't know I'm trying. You may suspect, but I seem very sweet and inocent in person (I've heard this often from ladies), and would have second doubts.
 
anya said:
But I see men and women in their '40's and older doing a lot more causal socializing without the ever present sexual subcontext that between teens and people in their '20's.

That's why I enjoy hanging out with uglies. I do all sorts of inappropriate shit and I don't care because they're not hot. haha. They love me.
 
anya if more women were like you guys would be MUCH better off..

I see plain looking guys all the time trying to hook up with chicks they stand no chance with only to be lead on all night so the chick can get free drinks, some attention and soemone to dance with. Kinda sad.
 
milo, see, that is a big mistake. Never buy a girl a drink at a club. You should go tell those guys.
 
QOUTE:
milo, see, that is a big mistake. Never buy a girl a drink at a club. You should go tell those guys.


That is solid advice,
She can find anybody to dance with, give her attention, so don't offer to buy her drinks and see if she's really interested.
 
anya said:
Bottom line is if you're hot then your scam can be cornball. We're not stupid. We know what you want and we know what we want. No player's guide neccessary.

If the face and bod is happening then we want you to succeed in perpetrating your scam but due to our need to protect our own self esteem (i.e. not feeling like we're giving it away) we still need you to work at it for a while. You understand? There is a dance that must be danced before there's any hookups.

But for me personally if I'm not down for the nasty then then I tell it straight up front. "Are you trying to hook up, cuz it's totally fine if you are?" "You are? Cool, but it aint gonna happen with me and you might want to spend your time and money elsewhere".



I like your attitude.

I think what you are saying is that when he hits on you, you just do not give it away right off the bat, you just do not rip of his pants if you want it (eventhough you are thinking it). You might say " not right now", or "quit it", then you subtly give him hints to continue.

Give me an example of having to work for it awhile.

Does this involve money? From my take on you, it doesn't envolve spending alot of $$$$$, but I may be wrong.

As for the average and maybe below average looking guys, your degree of successful scammage is going to be heavily dependent on the girl's self knowledge. If she is unsure of herself and/or unsure of what she really wants then your play IS going to be much more important.
 
anya said:
And I'd say scamming is when you go in with the primary intent of trying to hook up that booty.


IMO, here is the scam hot girls ought to be wary of. These are the ugly, loser dudes pull. They want to be your fiends and then become your friends. They say they do not want to get into your panties but they do. They bid their time when you are emotionally weak to make they move by being there for you in the worst time of your life. Its the sorryest scam by the sorryest men.
 
ok ok. girls use words like SCAM , ect because they love to be incontrol of a guy !! not some girls,ALL GIRLS. its true tht most girls belive tht they r the gate keeper and will decide when it is suitable for a shag.(only when she wants it ) this much control makes girls feel like a greater race thn men! they also use mind games like, im BI or im really quite attracted to woman.(ie i love brests )to get the guy thinking "god i have to try harded, improve my fitness, looks" ect. but also going onto the better race thing, because if all woman went gay, it would b the end of us !! u see what i mean! they know what they r doing!!lol
 
Dirk Howat said:
IMO, here is the scam hot girls ought to be wary of. These are the ugly, loser dudes pull. They want to be your fiends and then become your friends. They say they do not want to get into your panties but they do. They bid their time when you are emotionally weak to make they move by being there for you in the worst time of your life. Its the sorryest scam by the sorryest men.

LOL, what a poser. Way to give away all us ugly guys who reunite with hot ''friends'' from high school when they're down
 
SCAM!!! SCAM!!!

fuck that, it's a game. I generally hate women and love to play the game. Women torture men, it's only fair to do the same back.

Ever see the movie Rodger Dodger? God I love that flick.
 
RottenWillow said:
Bottom line is if you're hot then your scam can be cornball. We're not stupid. We know what you want and we know what we want. No player's guide neccessary.

If the face and bod is happening then we want you to succeed in perpetrating your scam but due to our need to protect our own self esteem (i.e. not feeling like we're giving it away) we still need you to work at it for a while. You understand? There is a dance that must be danced before there's any hookups.

But for me personally if I'm not down for the nasty then then I tell it straight up front. "Are you trying to hook up, cuz it's totally fine if you are?" "You are? Cool, but it aint gonna happen with me and you might want to spend your time and money elsewhere".

As for the average and maybe below average looking guys, your degree of successful scammage is going to be heavily dependent on the girl's self knowledge. If she is unsure of herself and/or unsure of what she really wants then your play IS going to be much more important.

disclaimer lol: This isnt directed towards anya, but she chose to be a used as an example...sorry babe :)

You know what i want? THe truth is, most women HAVE NO CLUE what we men want....and it goes waaaayyyyy beyond spreading your legs. This is why women's game just sucks...and some dont even realize that they control their destiny and that they ALSO have game.

And whats this callin it a "scam"..... were doing you a favor by approaching you because women *would rather die* than approach a man....try it, try approaching ONE guy this week u think is hot. Most women actually have ZERO seduction/attraction skills, or any other skills for that matter. Ive been approached by so many girls who just come off weird, or ask me for the time, or tellin me lame jokes. BUT at least they have my respect for trying. Then there are the girls who wouldn't know how to kiss well if they had personal coaching lessons from the worlds best kissers lol! these women will be lonely for a long long time :worried:

since women are usually not leaders, *most* usually have no aspirations beyond "getting married", and no fortitude to go for what they want, and its left to the men to come up to you, start BS'ing with shit that we dont find interesting just cuz we feel that you would be into it (because we dont have to hide our desire for sex), to get to know what type of woman you are, this unfortunately feeds your ego, makes you feel special or desired so that you can turn around and tell your friends that guys think your hot, or you have so and so chasing you......

BUT you choose to sabotage your own life by not considering most guys who approach you.....guys who could turn out to be the love of your life....guys who could be a great lay.....guys who could help you grow from a little girl to a mature woman.....because you let society dictate what you think of yourself and your sexuality..like you need a reason or go through a *dance* to be able to kiss/sex a man.

WHY do i say sabotage?? because women *especially in the US* dont really think about what they might be loosing by turning away a guy (mainly cuz most guys are pussy whipped cowards), women feel like they are made of gold and hold real power because they have a vagina. We wont get started on the serious ADD / entertain me mindframe that most have.

*TO ALL THE WOMEN READING THIS* I want you to **seriously** think about this and not just provide emotional outburts on this board about how wrong i am, that women now are empowered and independant, blah blah blah. If you woke up tommorow, and NO GUY EVERRRRRR approached you again, would your life be dark, bleak, drab and so unbelievably boring??? Would u still have this "i dont give a shit" attitude towards men? Our would u become scrambling to change your life and try to get men to talk to you, lost in how to make the approach, lost in how to even interact with your average man?

*To ALL THE GUYS* dont be so fukin needy, make a woman chase you, so she will feel validated and have a reason for sleeping with you, or even being attracted to you. Work on yourself (in all areas of your life) just so that you will be a better man, FOR YOURSELF. start approaching women...just for the sake of approaching women. Dont have the mentality to get a #. Just approach and see if you can get her attracted/have a good interaction. Keep practicing on women....especially the hotties. Fuck with their minds a little, let them think you want some P, get them smiling and giggling.....and then JUST WALK AWAY! if she doesnt chase you down, you will still have learned something new from that interaction w/her.

We're weird creatures! learn to love life and yourself....
 
CanadianCutie said:
the true art of seduction is individual.. if your doing what everyone else is doing.. then you're not ndoing it right:)


Very true! Be genuine and more people will like you. Ever since i became more true to myself and didnt try to please others as much i get more respect and love from everybody. hey, its all a learning process....
 
-Coldcut
Very impressive post, its sad to see so many other men out their turn into pussywhipped approval seeking machines. Then they wonder why they struggle to get any p !
 
Damn, I hate these kind of games. I just call an escort agency and order a petite brunette or a blond with big tits if I'm in the mood for silicone. When she arrives, I just tell her I want a BJ and Full Service. She names the price, I hand over the cash and the deal is done! It doesn't get any simpler and I don't buy anybody drinks all night only to leave alone.
 
*To ALL THE GUYS* dont be so fukin needy, make a woman chase you, so she will feel validated and have a reason for sleeping with you, or even being attracted to you. Work on yourself (in all areas of your life) just so that you will be a better man, FOR YOURSELF. start approaching women...just for the sake of approaching women. Dont have the mentality to get a #. Just approach and see if you can get her attracted/have a good interaction. Keep practicing on women....especially the hotties. Fuck with their minds a little, let them think you want some P, get them smiling and giggling.....and then JUST WALK AWAY! if she doesnt chase you down, you will still have learned something new from that interaction w/her

I couldn't agree more. It's dumass guys like that that have ruined everything. Girls have the power because guys give it to them, it's sad really :(
 
ColdCut said:
disclaimer lol: This isnt directed towards anya, but she chose to be a used as an example...sorry babe :)

You know what i want? THe truth is, most women HAVE NO CLUE what we men want....and it goes waaaayyyyy beyond spreading your legs. This is why women's game just sucks...and some dont even realize that they control their destiny and that they ALSO have game.

And whats this callin it a "scam"..... were doing you a favor by approaching you because women *would rather die* than approach a man....try it, try approaching ONE guy this week u think is hot. Most women actually have ZERO seduction/attraction skills, or any other skills for that matter. Ive been approached by so many girls who just come off weird, or ask me for the time, or tellin me lame jokes. BUT at least they have my respect for trying. Then there are the girls who wouldn't know how to kiss well if they had personal coaching lessons from the worlds best kissers lol! these women will be lonely for a long long time :worried:

since women are usually not leaders, *most* usually have no aspirations beyond "getting married", and no fortitude to go for what they want, and its left to the men to come up to you, start BS'ing with shit that we dont find interesting just cuz we feel that you would be into it (because we dont have to hide our desire for sex), to get to know what type of woman you are, this unfortunately feeds your ego, makes you feel special or desired so that you can turn around and tell your friends that guys think your hot, or you have so and so chasing you......

BUT you choose to sabotage your own life by not considering most guys who approach you.....guys who could turn out to be the love of your life....guys who could be a great lay.....guys who could help you grow from a little girl to a mature woman.....because you let society dictate what you think of yourself and your sexuality..like you need a reason or go through a *dance* to be able to kiss/sex a man.

WHY do i say sabotage?? because women *especially in the US* dont really think about what they might be loosing by turning away a guy (mainly cuz most guys are pussy whipped cowards), women feel like they are made of gold and hold real power because they have a vagina. We wont get started on the serious ADD / entertain me mindframe that most have.

*TO ALL THE WOMEN READING THIS* I want you to **seriously** think about this and not just provide emotional outburts on this board about how wrong i am, that women now are empowered and independant, blah blah blah. If you woke up tommorow, and NO GUY EVERRRRRR approached you again, would your life be dark, bleak, drab and so unbelievably boring??? Would u still have this "i dont give a shit" attitude towards men? Our would u become scrambling to change your life and try to get men to talk to you, lost in how to make the approach, lost in how to even interact with your average man?

*To ALL THE GUYS* dont be so fukin needy, make a woman chase you, so she will feel validated and have a reason for sleeping with you, or even being attracted to you. Work on yourself (in all areas of your life) just so that you will be a better man, FOR YOURSELF. start approaching women...just for the sake of approaching women. Dont have the mentality to get a #. Just approach and see if you can get her attracted/have a good interaction. Keep practicing on women....especially the hotties. Fuck with their minds a little, let them think you want some P, get them smiling and giggling.....and then JUST WALK AWAY! if she doesnt chase you down, you will still have learned something new from that interaction w/her.

We're weird creatures! learn to love life and yourself....
A++
 
Fast Twitch Fiber said:
Damn, I hate these kind of games. I just call an escort agency and order a petite brunette or a blond with big tits if I'm in the mood for silicone. When she arrives, I just tell her I want a BJ and Full Service. She names the price, I hand over the cash and the deal is done! It doesn't get any simpler and I don't buy anybody drinks all night only to leave alone.
this is a good idea
 
I personally find it amusing when I'm trying to pick up a girl. It's all a game. Back and forth, than I take the upper hand and she's hooked.

But whatever you posted was total bullshit. You love the attention.
 
RottenWillow said:
Bottom line is if you're hot then your scam can be cornball. We're not stupid. We know what you want and we know what we want. No player's guide neccessary.
EXACTLY. In a club setting, looks rule. period.

When I'm looking good, I could say "hi... can I pee in your shoe?" and the girl will giggle and say "you're so funny.... want my number?" .

When I'm looking like shit, I can quote love sonnets and it doesnt matter. No nookie.

(p.s. I've never actually asked a girl if I could pee in her shoe, or quoted love sonnets, but you get the idea)
 
lmao at women that are straight up and let guys know what they want. Such ladies are more rare than the Dodo bird.
 
bivk said:
But whatever you posted was total bullshit. You love the attention.

In the few years I've posted on this site, I've often seen people sound off about a post without actually even reading it. They skip to the end of the thread and start eargerly sharing their wisdom.

At least this dunce freely admits that he presumed to know the content of the post without having a clue what it actually was. Bravo
 
ColdCut said:
disclaimer lol: This isnt directed towards anya, but she chose to be a used as an example...sorry babe :)

You know what i want? THe truth is, most women HAVE NO CLUE what we men want....and it goes waaaayyyyy beyond spreading your legs. This is why women's game just sucks...and some dont even realize that they control their destiny and that they ALSO have game.

And whats this callin it a "scam"..... were doing you a favor by approaching you because women *would rather die* than approach a man....try it, try approaching ONE guy this week u think is hot. Most women actually have ZERO seduction/attraction skills, or any other skills for that matter. Ive been approached by so many girls who just come off weird, or ask me for the time, or tellin me lame jokes. BUT at least they have my respect for trying. Then there are the girls who wouldn't know how to kiss well if they had personal coaching lessons from the worlds best kissers lol! these women will be lonely for a long long time :worried:

since women are usually not leaders, *most* usually have no aspirations beyond "getting married", and no fortitude to go for what they want, and its left to the men to come up to you, start BS'ing with shit that we dont find interesting just cuz we feel that you would be into it (because we dont have to hide our desire for sex), to get to know what type of woman you are, this unfortunately feeds your ego, makes you feel special or desired so that you can turn around and tell your friends that guys think your hot, or you have so and so chasing you......

BUT you choose to sabotage your own life by not considering most guys who approach you.....guys who could turn out to be the love of your life....guys who could be a great lay.....guys who could help you grow from a little girl to a mature woman.....because you let society dictate what you think of yourself and your sexuality..like you need a reason or go through a *dance* to be able to kiss/sex a man.

WHY do i say sabotage?? because women *especially in the US* dont really think about what they might be loosing by turning away a guy (mainly cuz most guys are pussy whipped cowards), women feel like they are made of gold and hold real power because they have a vagina. We wont get started on the serious ADD / entertain me mindframe that most have.

*TO ALL THE WOMEN READING THIS* I want you to **seriously** think about this and not just provide emotional outburts on this board about how wrong i am, that women now are empowered and independant, blah blah blah. If you woke up tommorow, and NO GUY EVERRRRRR approached you again, would your life be dark, bleak, drab and so unbelievably boring??? Would u still have this "i dont give a shit" attitude towards men? Our would u become scrambling to change your life and try to get men to talk to you, lost in how to make the approach, lost in how to even interact with your average man?

*To ALL THE GUYS* dont be so fukin needy, make a woman chase you, so she will feel validated and have a reason for sleeping with you, or even being attracted to you. Work on yourself (in all areas of your life) just so that you will be a better man, FOR YOURSELF. start approaching women...just for the sake of approaching women. Dont have the mentality to get a #. Just approach and see if you can get her attracted/have a good interaction. Keep practicing on women....especially the hotties. Fuck with their minds a little, let them think you want some P, get them smiling and giggling.....and then JUST WALK AWAY! if she doesnt chase you down, you will still have learned something new from that interaction w/her.

We're weird creatures! learn to love life and yourself....


I LOVE YOUR STYLE, BRO
 
sconoscuito said:
you see I find this type of shit as a problem

I have this girl in one of my classes in college who Ive been friends with since HS, she wanted to be more than friends at some point but shes kinda boring to me and too nice, plus I already hooked up with her sister way before I met her so I didnt think it would work out anyway

now in this class theres a guy who really really digs this girl, however she doesnt like him so she is kinda mean to him, never laughs at funny shit he says and than I say somethin thats not even funny and shes crackin up... stuff like that and I find that kinda gay especially since shes known to be a "nice" girl... I feel kinda sorry for the guy


these days if you're talking with the girl it means your hittin on her, and if you try to let her know that ur not tryin to get some from her she moves onto the next guy...

if I was to ask a girl to come have a drink with me somewhere be it just water she would most likely consider it as a date or as me hittin on her






the only real solution to this I see is to have a girlfriend but than some girls want you even more and its kinda hard to resist


either way I think its a messed up world we live in

you're right man, girls are really fucked up today, especially the ones from ages 16-35. even if you're just trying to spark a normal friendly conversation they think you are hitting on them, even if its something that you have ridiculously in common with the girl such as she says "i just had brain surgery the other day" and you did also, which is like a billion to one chance, you couldnt even tell her about how you just had the same crazy ass thing happen to you without them thinking you're trying to hit on her. it sucks anymore, thats why im moving out in the woods 200 miles from any human and just lift eat and take roids all day.
 
RottenWillow said:
I would assume you were trying to get into my panties. You'd have to prove otherwise, which takes a lot of time.

.
When women once said to me; " All you want to do is screw me, or hit the skins." My reply was if that is all you have to offer, then that's all I can possibly get, right???

There are only 3 types of Azzz, bad, good, and indifferent. Thinking that I just want to screw you, is taking away from time that could be spent getting to know each other. The lines of communication are muddled when your thoughts flow back to the panties subject.
 
RottenWillow said:
Bottom line is if you're hot then your scam can be cornball. We're not stupid. We know what you want and we know what we want. No player's guide neccessary.

If the face and bod is happening then we want you to succeed in perpetrating your scam but due to our need to protect our own self esteem (i.e. not feeling like we're giving it away) we still need you to work at it for a while. You understand? There is a dance that must be danced before there's any hookups.


But why is this dance unnecessary if the guy's in a band or is on the big screen? There are always exceptions to the rule. And the rule itself it often broken (ie, college).

The attraction process is so convoluted it's kinda pathetic when you think of it. But in a way I guess it weeds out the weak and clueless.

Wait, it doesn't even do that; I've seen plenty of fools get lucky.


Everything's up in the air, really.
 
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ColdCut said:
disclaimer lol: This isnt directed towards anya, but she chose to be a used as an example...sorry babe :)

You know what i want? THe truth is, most women HAVE NO CLUE what we men want....and it goes waaaayyyyy beyond spreading your legs. This is why women's game just sucks...and some dont even realize that they control their destiny and that they ALSO have game.

And whats this callin it a "scam"..... were doing you a favor by approaching you because women *would rather die* than approach a man....try it, try approaching ONE guy this week u think is hot. Most women actually have ZERO seduction/attraction skills, or any other skills for that matter. Ive been approached by so many girls who just come off weird, or ask me for the time, or tellin me lame jokes. BUT at least they have my respect for trying. Then there are the girls who wouldn't know how to kiss well if they had personal coaching lessons from the worlds best kissers lol! these women will be lonely for a long long time :worried:

since women are usually not leaders, *most* usually have no aspirations beyond "getting married", and no fortitude to go for what they want, and its left to the men to come up to you, start BS'ing with shit that we dont find interesting just cuz we feel that you would be into it (because we dont have to hide our desire for sex), to get to know what type of woman you are, this unfortunately feeds your ego, makes you feel special or desired so that you can turn around and tell your friends that guys think your hot, or you have so and so chasing you......

BUT you choose to sabotage your own life by not considering most guys who approach you.....guys who could turn out to be the love of your life....guys who could be a great lay.....guys who could help you grow from a little girl to a mature woman.....because you let society dictate what you think of yourself and your sexuality..like you need a reason or go through a *dance* to be able to kiss/sex a man.

WHY do i say sabotage?? because women *especially in the US* dont really think about what they might be loosing by turning away a guy (mainly cuz most guys are pussy whipped cowards), women feel like they are made of gold and hold real power because they have a vagina. We wont get started on the serious ADD / entertain me mindframe that most have.

*TO ALL THE WOMEN READING THIS* I want you to **seriously** think about this and not just provide emotional outburts on this board about how wrong i am, that women now are empowered and independant, blah blah blah. If you woke up tommorow, and NO GUY EVERRRRRR approached you again, would your life be dark, bleak, drab and so unbelievably boring??? Would u still have this "i dont give a shit" attitude towards men? Our would u become scrambling to change your life and try to get men to talk to you, lost in how to make the approach, lost in how to even interact with your average man?

*To ALL THE GUYS* dont be so fukin needy, make a woman chase you, so she will feel validated and have a reason for sleeping with you, or even being attracted to you. Work on yourself (in all areas of your life) just so that you will be a better man, FOR YOURSELF. start approaching women...just for the sake of approaching women. Dont have the mentality to get a #. Just approach and see if you can get her attracted/have a good interaction. Keep practicing on women....especially the hotties. Fuck with their minds a little, let them think you want some P, get them smiling and giggling.....and then JUST WALK AWAY! if she doesnt chase you down, you will still have learned something new from that interaction w/her.

We're weird creatures! learn to love life and yourself....




I think there should be an award given for this post. Bravo, Johnny. :)
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
But why is this dance unnecessary if the guy's in a band or is on the big screen? There are always exceptions to the rule. And the rule itself it often broken (ie, college).

The attraction process is so convoluted it's kinda pathetic when you think of it. But in a way I guess it weeds out the weak and clueless.

Wait, it doesn't even do that; I've seen plenty of fools get lucky.


Everything's up in the air, really.

Certainly, any rule can and will be broken. And there are penalties for breaking rules. If a woman breaks this one she's likely to be labeled slut, ho, skank.....pick your euphemism of choice. The "fool gets lucky" and the girl probably gets moved into the "skeezer" category by her male peers.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
But why is this dance unnecessary if the guy's in a band or is on the big screen?
Amen. I get so sick of my female friends that have these high standards for prospective male companionship, but if someone with any level of fame or someone with alot of money wants them, they open up faster than you can say "hypocritical,stank-ass, groupie hoe".
 
AMEN Coldcut your right is actually our fault!!!. Us Guys sweat women wayyyyyyy too much!!. So they think they are the last drop of of water in Dessert. Women now at days not all but large majority like the status, they want to be center of attention, they like to think every guy wans them etc........also it comed down how pop culture has accept it this. Look for example TV look at MTV everything is about being superficial I know some chicks that actually think that real life is like that. By the way I live in Miami,Fl so I'm here in the cream of crop of superficial chicks!!!
 
RottenWillow said:
Certainly, any rule can and will be broken. And there are penalties for breaking rules. If a woman breaks this one she's likely to be labeled slut, ho, skank.....pick your euphemism of choice. The "fool gets lucky" and the girl probably gets moved into the "skeezer" category by her male peers.

thats because women can get pregnant and that is precisely the reason they shouldnt go around fucking everything that moves like most of them do. and for the record, women try to fuck more than men, which, even if they didnt have the ability to make children would make them a slut. so, youre a slut. thank you. good night.
 
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