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a question for the americans...

Maxpain said:
IN IRAQ !!! Korea also. BUT IN IRAQ !!! Apparently your liberal ways and thinking keeps you uninformed???

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html

http://www.spacewar.com/2004/040701203743.9i07uh3m.html

Here is just TWO of the mnay articles where they were FOUND IN IRAQ !!! Just let me know when you want me to quit making you look stupid!
10 mustard gas shells found in one location from a war fought in the 1980s does not constitute the WMD vesion promoted by the Bush Administration.
 
I believe that if the American forces where to withdraw from Iraq at this moment. A civil war would erupt. The country would be thrown into chaos and mayhem. That's not a good thing

Robert Jan said:
Depends how you define power. but this is an unnecessary pissing contest. What it comes down to is that the USA of now is the greatest power in the world.

A more interesting question is whether or not this is a good thing


Good post, and in my view, no this is not a good thing. Not because it's America, but because no country should be in such a position of power by itself. It upsets the balance of the world. But in it's own way, they do a better job being in this position than both the roman & british empire, since they are not set on global conqest.

Another interesting question is that both the roman & british empire has crumbled. When will this happen to the United States, and who do you think will take over? EU, China. The Scandinavian republic of Norway ;)

There is no denying that USA has done alot of good in this position, when it has served their purpose, but there is also no denying that it also has fucked up big time, meddling in others affairs, overthrowing elected governments, etc.

But would any other country do much better in similar situations? I think not. Countries are made up by humans, and we make mistake. Humans with power make big mistakes, and power corrupt. The biggest "problem" with America, is not their dominant position, or their habit of "forcing" your culture on others. It's that this is done with so much arrogance and "righteousness". That people & countries that has a different way of living, needs to be rescued by the american dream, and that the whole world is jealous of you. This might not be the truth, but this is what your "selling". And this is perhaps one of the reasons why so much hatred and rage are directed against USA.
Any thoughts?
 
Yes but at the same time there is not a country in the world that does not have citizens willing to risk their lives and/or livelyhoods to come to the USA. The US empire will never end. It will augment itself to changing times. It's doing it already. Economic forces will dominate in the future. There are new markets coming into play, (china) So the us is exporting production and making trade agreements. Also the whole electronic monetary system/network was invented and setup by the USA, It's banking system is world dominant. The USA now simply intergrates countries with it's economic prowless and allows every nation that wants to prosper plenty of prosperity, this in itself prevents war from happening in the first place. Everybody is content.

Also the American culture is not shoved on anyone. It's just that we are so big and popular it rubs off everywhere. Remeber that the USA is not some faceless entity, we are a collection of a myriad or different cultures and races. It's a collective effort. We have the some of the worlds coolest melting pot cultures. We accept everyone and they all add to and make what the USA is today.
 
WODIN said:
10 mustard gas shells found in one location from a war fought in the 1980s does not constitute the WMD vesion promoted by the Bush Administration.

Maxpain said:
IN IRAQ !!! Korea also. BUT IN IRAQ !!! Apparently your liberal ways and thinking keeps you uninformed???

In two words I'm branded an Uninformed Liberal from someone with his head in his ass.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html

http://www.spacewar.com/2004/040701203743.9i07uh3m.html

Here is just TWO of the mnay articles where they were FOUND IN IRAQ !!! Just let me know when you want me to quit making you look stupid!

Making me look stupid? Hardy har har. They found a handfull of weapons from the 80's that where kept in such horrid conditions they where as affective as you are smart. Naturally a country readily holding and making nukes is to be ignored for a country holding enough gas to effect a city block. Nice reasoning to this.
 
Maxpain said:
IN IRAQ !!! Korea also. BUT IN IRAQ !!! Apparently your liberal ways and thinking keeps you uninformed???

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html

http://www.spacewar.com/2004/040701203743.9i07uh3m.html

Here is just TWO of the mnay articles where they were FOUND IN IRAQ !!! Just let me know when you want me to quit making you look stupid!
For a few frigging shells we went to war?

Where was the "imminent threat?" Where was the "reconstituted weapons program"?
 
Maxpain said:
MY friend WMD's HAVE BEEN FOUND !!! Apparently you have third world news there. Like the liberal bias media here. We are there now as a peace mission. The Iraqis control there own affairs. The Americans are ASKED by the interim government to help on certain missions. But the Iraqis make their own calls on things. MAYBE if you and you're country men heard the REAL TRUTH. Maybe then you would have a different opinion??


Funniest shit I've heard all week.
 
WODIN said:
10 mustard gas shells found in one location from a war fought in the 1980s does not constitute the WMD vesion promoted by the Bush Administration.

REALLY ??? Why is that? A WMD is a WMD not matter when he got it.
 
Vash said:
Making me look stupid? Hardy har har. They found a handfull of weapons from the 80's that where kept in such horrid conditions they where as affective as you are smart. Naturally a country readily holding and making nukes is to be ignored for a country holding enough gas to effect a city block. Nice reasoning to this.

A city block!!! Are you NUTS! There was enough gas to wipe out THOUSANDS of people. Far from a city block. Trying to change the subject now. You agreed there were no WMD's found. NOT whether there are other nations with the same capabilities! I showed you prove they had them adn they were found!
 
The Nature Boy said:
For a few frigging shells we went to war?

Where was the "imminent threat?" Where was the "reconstituted weapons program"?

AGAIN, the debate was over whether they had WMD's. They were found. So Saddam having weapons like this to use or sell to people willing to use them was not a "imminent threat" ?????
 
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