A Man or a GOD .. you decide

[Spartacus]

you just had to show off that supra again didn't ya 4ever?

that house under construction has since been built and occupied by a Korean couple(we have a new hyundai plant nearby)
he has a teenage daughter and an older porsche 911 he takes out once in a blue moon
little chicks be driving by and dropping off his daughter etc.
waving at me
occassionally I'll hear drums playing from that house
like from real drums,not a stereo
I haven't pieced all that parts together of that sit yet
probably have to wait until the pool opens
I could ask the fat guy across the street who borrows my dirty DVDs when his wife's away
but that would be cheating

 

[Spartacus]

man-o-war drums eh?
samoth

 

[Spartacus]

my hijacked thread is trailing AAPs latest hot thread by a couple dozen views
but I sprinkle my threads with pics to document
AAP never does that

 

[Bikini Mod]

He bought her jewelry and stuff to make her happy so he could fuck her one more time before showing her the papers. Pretty obvious I thought...

If this is all about trapping the guy anyway why would he have to go to the touble? She would have dropped to her knees regardless. LOL

Either way this whole thread is unbelievably silly.

I especially liked the men who thought that foreign born women didnt want their "rich stupid American asses" for anything more than a green card and half. They were the most entertaining of all.

...but American women are opportunistic sharks that arent worthy of their attention. LMFAO

 

[KillahBee]

Beautiful

 

[Spartacus]

don't ignore

 

[Spartacus]

"Our character is not defined by our circumstances alone, but rather, by how WE CHOOSE to react to them."

"Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future."

Premier Dating Site for Swingers and Extramarital Affair Seekers

 

[Spartacus]

fuck

 

[Tweakle]

When I was trying to get a Russian visa a couple years back, I followed a link to to one of the numerous mail order bride support network forums.

The stories on there were hilarious, plump, unattractive middleaged men in shock and disbelief that the little Irina they'd had delivered would rather spend the day watching QVC and talking with her Russian friends online instead of serving her husband like a domestic slave. Or that she wasn't interested in sex at all now she was in her new home, or how she liked to party at the weekend with their money.

few of them realized the 'wife tours' that marriage agencies organize in Moscow are actually retirement policies for over the hill hookers, looking to be put out to pasture in the west.

Anyone who's dated a russian chick, real or 2nd generation knows they're mercenary in a way that 'american golddiggers' can only dream about.

 

[Spartacus]

When I was trying to get a Russian visa a couple years back, I followed a link to to one of the numerous mail order bride support network forums.

The stories on there were hilarious, plump, unattractive middleaged men in shock and disbelief that the little Irina they'd had delivered would rather spend the day watching QVC and talking with her Russian friends online instead of serving her husband like a domestic slave. Or that she wasn't interested in sex at all now she was in her new home, or how she liked to party at the weekend with their money.

few of them realized the 'wife tours' that marriage agencies organize in Moscow are actually retirement policies for over the hill hookers, looking to be put out to pasture in the west.

Anyone who's dated a russian chick, real or 2nd generation knows they're mercenary in a way that 'american golddiggers' can only dream about.

I'm not doing that
I'm taking a 10 trip to Volgograd for 5 grand
I'm a WWII history buff and I figure the trip will be interesting regardless
but my brother called me today
he's a christian minister to pro and collegiate atheletes
and he tells me just this morning he has a good friend in volgograd working as a minister with a russian wife
so I have a man on the scene

 

[Spartacus]

we'll see

 

[Tweakle]

Heh well good luck to ya, at least I knew mine was a hooker on sabatical and let her know I wasn't going to be bankrolling her. 4 months of great sex out the deal, but there's no way I could live with another EE again.

imo the most generous and loving women out there are 2nd generation from family oriented cultures, you get the best of both worlds.

 

[Spartacus]

Heh well good luck to ya, at least I knew mine was a hooker on sabatical and let her know I wasn't going to be bankrolling her. 4 months of great sex out the deal, but there's no way I could live with another EE again.

imo the most generous and loving women out there are 2nd generation from family oriented cultures, you get the best of both worlds.

I'm meeting face to face
I need 3 minutes to figure girls out

 

[myway]

Lol. U look like u could be a lot of fun. It's something about the look on ur face. I bet u would be a lot of fun.....

 

[heatherrae]

When I was trying to get a Russian visa a couple years back, I followed a link to to one of the numerous mail order bride support network forums.

The stories on there were hilarious, plump, unattractive middleaged men in shock and disbelief that the little Irina they'd had delivered would rather spend the day watching QVC and talking with her Russian friends online instead of serving her husband like a domestic slave. Or that she wasn't interested in sex at all now she was in her new home, or how she liked to party at the weekend with their money.

few of them realized the 'wife tours' that marriage agencies organize in Moscow are actually retirement policies for over the hill hookers, looking to be put out to pasture in the west.

Anyone who's dated a russian chick, real or 2nd generation knows they're mercenary in a way that 'american golddiggers' can only dream about.

Shhhhhh....don't tell him. I would love to have him try to just have an arranged marriage with a foreign bride.

 

[Spartacus]

Shhhhhh....don't tell him. I would love to have him try to just have an arranged marriage with a foreign bride.

like go haywire like your arranged pregnancy?

 

[Spartacus]

I've been down that path ms rae

 

[heatherrae]

like go haywire like your arranged pregnancy?

It wasn't arranged, but I love how the weakling men on here always attack my pregnancy. My pregnancy is a blessing, you dimwit. If it is a boy, I will raise him to not be so weak as to need to seek out a foreign bride because he needs someone who he thinks will just obey his orders. Grow a backbone.

 

[Spartacus]

hung doesn't make many mistakes
when he does he has good legal counsel
get off scotfree
costs a check

 

[Spartacus]

my best attorney used to play nose tackle for the georgia bulldogs

 

[Spartacus]

be calling me from the drive thru
bunch of kids in his SUV ordering
"mike this is what we're gonna do"
one of his kids played piano
atheletic kid too
I noticed that

 

[Spartacus]

It wasn't arranged, but I love how the weakling men on here always attack my pregnancy. My pregnancy is a blessing, you dimwit. If it is a boy, I will raise him to not be so weak as to need to seek out a foreign bride because he needs someone who he thinks will just obey his orders. Grow a backbone.

LOL @ "dimwit"
so a woman of foriegn origin is auto off limits?
share with me more counselor

 

[heatherrae]

LOL @ "dimwit"
so a woman of foriegn origin is auto off limits?
share with me more counselor

No, but your chauvanistic and ridiculous stereotypes of both American and foreign women are insulting to all of us. Any woman with half a brain whether foreign or American wouldn't appreciate your stupid assumptions.

 

[mrplunkey]

When you compare the "average" American woman to the "average" foreign one there does seem to be price/performance gap. On the appearance front, I bet some of it is from a higher average bodyweight and some of it is backlash against the "always fix up" mentality girls used to be raised with. But again, we're talking averages here so execeptions are the rule.

Then of course there are a lot of beer-bellied American men that are no prize either.

 

[Spartacus]

No, but your chauvanistic and ridiculous stereotypes of both American and foreign women are insulting to all of us. Any woman with half a brain whether foreign or American wouldn't appreciate your stupid assumptions.

funny thing is I'm the least chauvanistic guy out there
I was raised with two sisters both born within 2 years of me
me and my 2 sisters grew up together
one is a CPA
the other a highly compensated computer programmer
they both are the breadwinners

 

[Spartacus]

without a doubt neither of my sisters would consider using a child and/or marriage as a payoff
I remember when my first sister got impregnated by a "rough boy"
I drove her and my mother to Texas on about an 18 hour trip
bunch of crying
I took my sister to an adoption home in Texas
wasn't my choice,but I was there for them

 

[heatherrae]

funny thing is I'm the least chauvanistic guy out there
I was raised with two sisters both born within 2 years of me
me and my 2 sisters grew up together
one is a CPA
the other a highly compensated computer programmer
they both are the breadwinners

I'm glad for you sisters. They sound like wonderful women. There is no way you can't say you are the "least chauvanistic" man out there after all the tripe you posted on this thread.

 

[Spartacus]

I'm glad for you sisters. They sound like wonderful women. There is no way you can't say you are the "least chauvanistic" man out there after all the tripe you posted on this thread.

too bad for you
most woman can't recognize a good thing if it hit them in the face
just sayin'

ms rae I have 14 years experience dealing with people at extreme times
don't school me

 

[dead_reggin_storage_fashi]

alot of action on this thread heather, it seems you are angry because you have been abused by a man or men and seem to take it out on the male posters in this thread

 

[velvett]

Why doesn't everyone just back off of Heather!?

She is right, the moaning that goes on here about women (girls) does grow tiresome at times but after a while it's like yes, OK that's just how some guys process what they feel and the rest well, like there are women that don't respect men there are men that don't respect women.

We all should start to get that - women and men - both guilty of being assholes to the opposite sex (and sometimes even worse to their own sex) it's just the way life is and it's my personal opinion that being aware is probably the best way not to be guilty of such behavior (or try not to at any rate).

You think you know all about being treated poorly or abused because "it's been done to you" - that's not true at all...

 

[Spartacus]

Why doesn't everyone just back off of Heather!?

She is right, the moaning that goes on here about women (girls) does grow tiresome at times but after a while it's like yes, OK that's just how some guys process what they feel and the rest well, like there are women that don't respect men there are men that don't respect women.

We all should start to get that - women and men - both guilty of being assholes to the opposite sex (and sometimes even worse to their own sex) it's just the way life is and it's my personal opinion that being aware is probably the best way not to be guilty of such behavior (or try not to at any rate).

You think you know all about being treated poorly or abused because "it's been done to you" - that's not true at all...

incorrect velvett
read through the thread
myself I've managed to be victimized by a woman once
and I've dated dozens
truth be told I've retired my playboy self
too many tears
I can remember like it was yesterday in my minds eye when I cut them loose
it hurts
I even wanted to retract my decision when I saw the pain
don't tell me

 

[heatherrae]

alot of action on this thread heather, it seems you are angry because you have been abused by a man or men and seem to take it out on the male posters in this thread

Oh dear boy, how little you know.

 

[samoth]

Velvett = wise beyond years.

 

[Spartacus]

these girls keep steppin' in the dog shit
and they wonder why

 

[heatherrae]

I'm just not afraid to speak my mind and point out when I think that unfair stereotyping and mysogynistic behavior is afoot. I do the same when I hear ridiculous stuff about Mexican immigrants, or blacks, or homosexuals. I'm just outspoken and tireless. Take it or leave it. I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Thanks for all the positive karma gang.



and to answer your question in the red karma you gave me Heatherrae..

yes I do.. in Molecular Biology and Biochemistry, and a second in phys ed. (just a lowly A.A there though)

 

[heatherrae]

Why doesn't everyone just back off of Heather!?

She is right, the moaning that goes on here about women (girls) does grow tiresome at times but after a while it's like yes, OK that's just how some guys process what they feel and the rest well, like there are women that don't respect men there are men that don't respect women.

We all should start to get that - women and men - both guilty of being assholes to the opposite sex (and sometimes even worse to their own sex) it's just the way life is and it's my personal opinion that being aware is probably the best way not to be guilty of such behavior (or try not to at any rate).

You think you know all about being treated poorly or abused because "it's been done to you" - that's not true at all...

Thanks Vel. You are always a reasonable and wise woman.

 

[velvett]

incorrect velvett
read through the thread
myself I've managed to be victimized by a woman once
and I've dated dozens
truth be told I've retired my playboy self
too many tears
I can remember like it was yesterday in my minds eye when I cut them loose
it hurts
I even wanted to retract my decision when I saw the pain
don't tell me

Maybe I didn't state it clear - but you're agreeing with me

Or I don't understand this post (which is not impossible).

 

[Jimsbbc]

Both sides have entitlement issues and unrealistic expectations. My "bitching" about divorce on other threads is related to my limited sample from a not so average society. My brother-in-law has recently been taken through the ringer by a cruel, vindictive, manipulative ex-wife and his kids are suffering. There is a lot of ugliness on both sides, however I see the women doing it more.

 

[Spartacus]

it's the other people that let you know
"she loves you"
I'm wtf
"I can tell by the way she looks at you"

 

[heatherrae]

Both sides have entitlement issues and unrealistic expectations. My "bitching" about divorce on other threads is related to my limited sample from a not so average society. My brother-in-law has recently been taken through the ringer by a cruel, vindictive, manipulative ex-wife and his kids are suffering. There is a lot of ugliness on both sides, however I see the women doing it more.

When I used to handle divorces, I saw equal ugliness from both genders. I don't think it is even a matter of gender. There are ruthless men and ruthless women out there. There are also very beautiful women and beautiful men out there, too.

The entire point is not to approach every relationship setting out the lie and manipulate because you have come to the conclusion that all men are bad or all women are bad. Coming here and bashing women day in and day out creates an unpleasant atmosphere for the women who enjoy coming here, as well. I'm sure if you approach a relationship with the mindset toward women that has been expressed in this thread, nothing good could come of it, even if the woman had only the intention of having a nice relationship. It is just toxic and unfrutiful thinking.

 

[medical]

didn't read everthing so if this is redundant so be it. From the original post: "Three months before we met, I had a vasectomy." Not long enough to prove efficacy of vasectomy.
Even without that it is so fake. Funny though.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

It is just toxic and unfrutiful thinking.

Couldnt agree with you more. And after I thought about it last night.. I realized spending time thinking about things like this doesnt fix the problem and just makes one angry.

Its still a funny story.



But.. even you HR have to admit.. men are not treated equally in divorce court.. especially in matters of child support and custody. That "inequality" fuels a lot of the resentment men have about this issue.. and untils its addressed .. it will never get better.

Women cant ask for equality only when it suits them.

 

[medical]

didn't read everthing so if this is redundant so be it. From the original post: "Three months before we met, I had a vasectomy." Not long enough to prove efficacy of vasectomy.
Even without that it is so fake. Funny though.

For honesty's sake I will say I have had a vasectomy and I keep it a secret early in a relationship WHILE STATING CONTINUOUSLY THAT I WILL NEVER HAVE ANY MORE CHILDREN because there are women out there that think they can change my mind and I still want to fuck them. That is as honest as I can be. It has been a few years since this situation applied but I have done it and would probably do it again if my relationship status changed.
Just being honest about my dishonesty!

 

[dead_reggin_storage_fashi]

Oh dear boy, how little you know.

thats all I know of you and seeing how you are attacking men in this thread is how I came to my answer.

sorry

 

[heatherrae]

Couldnt agree with you more. And after I thought about it last night.. I realized spending time thinking about things like this doesnt fix the problem and just makes one angry.

Its still a funny story.



But.. even you HR have to admit.. men are not treated equally in divorce court.. especially in matters of child support and custody. That "inequality" fuels a lot of the resentment men have about this issue.. and untils its addressed .. it will never get better.

Women cant ask for equality only when it suits them.

From what I have seen, and I am being 100% honest here, the assets are usually very fairly divided. Now, if it is different in other states, I can't really say.

With regard to child support/custody/visitation, it has been my experience that men usually are happy to let the children live with mom and to just visit with them. I would say about 85% of my cases, that was the case. The other 15% duke it out and it can get SO NASTY that it is disheartening. Now, maybe men do this because they wrongly assume that the woman will automatically get to be the residential parent, anyway. On the other hand, maybe they don't want to have to take care of the child every day and prefer having set visitation times, instead. In Ky, and lots of states, there used to be a presumption that children under 7 are better off with mom unless mom is unfit. This was called the "tender years doctrine", but that was found unconstitutional years ago, and now the standard is the "best interests of the child." Believe it or not, in my experience, if there is any favoritism toward giving residential custody to mom, it is usually the older, MALE judges who do it. I'm not kidding! They are just more old fashioned. Here, after a kid is about 10 or so, the judge does place some weight on where the kids says she/he wants to live so long as it is for good reasons.

With regard to child support, in almost every state, child support is primarily determined by formula and in NO STATE is there any regard whatsoever as to gender in determining the amount of child support to be paid. Most of the time, you plug in incomes of residential and non-residential parent, health insurance premiums, day care expenses, and viola, a presumptive payment is determined.

 

[dead_reggin_storage_fashi]

From what I have seen, and I am being 100% honest here, the assets are usually very fairly divided. Now, if it is different in other states, I can't really say.

.

California laws are much different classes with splitting. I am not talking about anything regarding community property laws but how the court makes the rulings

 

[heatherrae]

For honesty's sake I will say I have had a vasectomy and I keep it a secret early in a relationship WHILE STATING CONTINUOUSLY THAT I WILL NEVER HAVE ANY MORE CHILDREN because there are women out there that think they can change my mind and I still want to fuck them. That is as honest as I can be. It has been a few years since this situation applied but I have done it and would probably do it again if my relationship status changed.
Just being honest about my dishonesty!

I once had a serious boyfriend who lied about having a vasectomy. When we met we discussed future plans. I told him that one day I would like to get married and have kids. He said that he already had kids but would be willing to have more. I later found out that he had a vasectomy. He told me he lied to me because he didn't want to lose me. DUH!

And for the men on here who are going to ask, no, I never told him I was pregnant or anything crazy.

 

[heatherrae]

thats all I know of you and seeing how you are attacking men in this thread is how I came to my answer.

sorry

This is priceless! The entire thread was an opus of woman hating! You have one woman who comes on and says what bullshit it is to constantly woman hate, and you point out the woman and say she must be abused to "attack" the men! LOL. Don't you even see how ridiculous that is?

 

[Spartacus]

I can look at you and can tell if your're going to get fat

 

[Spartacus]

I have a personal ad up
woman 35+ with2 kids etc will write
"I'm interested in you,tell me about yourself"

 

[Spartacus]

fuck you

 

[Spartacus]

you read their ads detailing all their requierments for ideal man
and they don't have 20 dollars
to become gold members
trash

 

[-SD-]

it's the other people that let you know
"she loves you"
I'm wtf
"I can tell by the way she looks at you"

All in the way she looks at you. 2 EZ broham

 

[hotzie]

god

 

[Spartacus]

god

yeah well
2 of elite's finest ran their mouths on the thread

 

[Spartacus]

titty barn drive thru

 

[OfficerNate]

Wow.....I know God, I have seen His words......I will build a temple to honor Him. I will mass produce t-shirts and bumper stickers.

 

[nimbus]

i thought this thread was going to be about wade boggs

 

[PBR]

Why doesn't everyone just back off of Heather!?

She is right, the moaning that goes on here about women (girls) does grow tiresome at times but after a while it's like yes, OK that's just how some guys process what they feel and the rest well, like there are women that don't respect men there are men that don't respect women.

We all should start to get that - women and men - both guilty of being assholes to the opposite sex (and sometimes even worse to their own sex) it's just the way life is and it's my personal opinion that being aware is probably the best way not to be guilty of such behavior (or try not to at any rate).

You think you know all about being treated poorly or abused because "it's been done to you" - that's not true at all...

when all is said and done, we must go back to the begining...IF we would look at what our "motives" are, and be truthful with them, 90% of the BS would never occur in the first place. Heather had a very real and simple point- which is where relationships should evolve from, that is wanting to be in something that is enduring and special...In order to have THIS- the "motive" must be shared by both...otherwise you have two people going in opposite directions trying to hold hands.
Having respect for each other is what is "golden". if this is met at the begining, the journey can be enjoyed, no matter what the distance.

 

[Jimsbbc]

Respect and trust are the two key elements.

 

[heatherrae]

when all is said and done, we must go back to the begining...IF we would look at what our "motives" are, and be truthful with them, 90% of the BS would never occur in the first place. Heather had a very real and simple point- which is where relationships should evolve from, that is wanting to be in something that is enduring and special...In order to have THIS- the "motive" must be shared by both...otherwise you have two people going in opposite directions trying to hold hands.
Having respect for each other is what is "golden". if this is met at the begining, the journey can be enjoyed, no matter what the distance.

Will you marry me?

 

[PBR]

Will you marry me?

im a little boy, with a big dream...and there's something i want to tell you:

 

[heatherrae]

im a little boy, with a big dream...and there's something i want to tell you:

LOL....I'll push. ;-)

 

[PBR]

LOL....I'll push. ;-)

OK...I'll then.