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milo hobgoblin

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If this guy ever procreated.. our sun would explode from too much coolness existing in the universe at a given moment.

My new hero

(sorry of its a repost.. but this story is just too damn good to be missed)

From Craigslist

I'll try to sum up a funny story that happened a few years ago:

I got a vasectomy.

I met a girl soon afterwards. She was nice and attractive but with a selfish streak that raised a big red flag. She was 32 at the time and I could practically HEAR her biological clock ticking. Regardless, she was a good lay, easy on the eyes, and reasonably good company.

I did NOT tell her about my vasectomy and I always used a condom with her to protect against STDs. She assumed, obviously, that the condom was only used for birth control. Silly girl.

We date for a few months. I never made any move towards commitment but she brought it up ocassionally. For me, this was a casual but pleasant relationship. For her - as I was to find out - it was part of life-changing series of events that she was planning very carefully.

Four months into dating, I get the "I'm pregnant" talk. She's going on and on about how the condom must have broke and now we really need to think about getting married "for the baby". She's positively giddy. She has a baby in her and she thinks she's gonna have a good meal ticket (me) to go along with her new 7lb annuity.

At this point, I'm just as giddy. I get to pull the reverse "oops" on her. I figured that she slept with some bad boy and got knocked up. Good thing I was using condoms! Better still that I have a serious mistrust of women who can't think beyond their own uteri.

So I wait a couple of days to "think about all this." I meet her again. I say I don't want kids and that she should have an abortion. I know where this is going and sure enough it goes there. She goes completely batshit insane on me. There were the usual insults about my manhood. There were threats of legal action. It was all very ugly and I was loving every minute of it.

Well, I let her stew for a few days. She leaves me nasty messages on my phone. She sends awful emails. I'm laughing hysterically.

It was time to drop the hammer. While she was stewing I was busy. First I get a notarized copy from the urologist who performed the vasectomy. Next I get a notarized copy of the TWO test results indicating a "negative test result for sperm" to show I'm sterile and shooting blanks. Finally, I get a letter from a shark attorney stating he has seen the other documents and is prepared to litigate against this woman if she continues to communicate with me in such an unpleasant manner. Also, the letter states that we will insist on DNA testing to show that the baby is not mine. I'm ready.

I meet with this woman at her place. I bring flowers and a small bit of jewelry to show I am willing to reconcile and assume my responsibilities as a new father. I also have stuck in my pocket the documents I have prepared.

She's all giddy again. Her plan is going perfectly - or so she thinks. We talk about our future. We have some pretty good sex. Then, as I am about to walk out the door, I ask her the $64,000 question. "Are you sure that this baby is mine?"

Well, she goes batshit insane again. Hell, she ought to. Her plan could completely unravel if there is ANY question about my paternity. Oh, she's really screaming now. How dare I question her morals. Do I think she's a slut. I'm just trying to weasel out of my responsibilities... blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda.

I'm not really mad. I'm kind of embarrassed for her. But since she won't shut up and the neighbors can hear all of this, I ask her to step back inside and sit down. She sits on the sofa and calms down a bit. She is glaring at me with all the moral self-righteousness that only a woman can muster up. She thinks she has me trapped. She is 100% convinced her plan has worked. Oh, the tangled web of lies and deceit she has wrought around herself and I am about to hack through them with a few pieces of paper.

I reach into my pocket slowly. I extract the three pieces of paper and unfold them slowly and deliberately.

I tell her simply, "You're screwed".

Her look doesn't change. There is no way she can fathom what I have prepared.

I continue. "I am sterile"

Her look changes just a bit. Something is beginning to sink in. Naturally, she reverts to women's logic. "You're full of shit. You're trapped and you know it."

I hold up the letter and the test results. "Three months before we met, I had a vasectomy. Here is a notarized letter from him stating what I had done. Here are two test results showing that I tested negative for the presence of sperm. Blanks. I am shooting blanks. That baby inside you is simply not mine."

This woman is not to be swayed by logic and clear documentation. "Bullshit, those are fakes."

I was ready for that. "No, they are real. This last piece of paper is from my attorney. It's a simple letter to you that states if you pursue any kind of legal action against me for child support that I will insist on a DNA test to prove paternity, that is, to prove that your baby is not mine."

I give the woman all the documents. She reads them slowly, deliberately. With each passing second she can feel in her soul that she has made a very bad mistake. With denial swept away, she started to cry. It's a small cry at first. Then it becomes deeper and more painful. By the time she gets to the letter from the lawyer she is sobbing.

I had no sympathy for her. I turned and walked out the door. Even after I closed the door I could still hear her sobbing.

Epilogue -

I never heard directly from this woman again. I did hear through my friends that she did indeed have the baby. I also heard that the real father was some guy in a band she had met. I assumed that after 30, women stopped going after musicians, bikers, criminals, and thugs. Silly me for thinking the best of American women.

The Moral of the Story -

Get a vasectomy but keep it a secret.
 
heatherrae said:
:rolleyes:

Obviously fake and dumb drivel written by some dumb kid.
Its perfect. Should be required reading for guys like healother who have yet to experience what idiocy women are capable of.
 
Ehhh, I wouldn't go through all the trouble of "proving" it to her. That's giving her too much respect. Let her do what she wants, then "prove" it, if you have to, much later.
 
Here is the quote in the paragraph which is so obviously fake:

"Her look changes just a bit. Something is beginning to sink in. Naturally, she reverts to women's logic. 'You're full of shit. You're trapped and you know it.' "

No woman is going to say, "you are trapped, and you know it." That is such obvious bad dialogue. That would never come out of a woman's mouth in that situation.
 
heatherrae said:
Here is the quote in the paragraph which is so obviously fake:

"Her look changes just a bit. Something is beginning to sink in. Naturally, she reverts to women's logic. 'You're full of shit. You're trapped and you know it.' "

No woman is going to say, "you are trapped, and you know it." That is such obvious bad dialogue. That would never come out of a woman's mouth in that situation.

speaking from experience.

Your post about deadlifts pretty much shows you view men as something for you to toy with.
 
heatherrae said:
Here is the quote in the paragraph which is so obviously fake:

That would never come out of a woman's mouth in that situation.
maybe not all women are as classy as you, there are some dumb broads out there...and doods too
 
milo hobgoblin said:
speaking from experience.

Your post about deadlifts pretty much shows you view men as something for you to toy with.
The deadlift comment was self deprecating humor. You're not the type to get it.
 
heatherrae said:
Here is the quote in the paragraph which is so obviously fake:

"Her look changes just a bit. Something is beginning to sink in. Naturally, she reverts to women's logic. 'You're full of shit. You're trapped and you know it.' "

No woman is going to say, "you are trapped, and you know it." That is such obvious bad dialogue. That would never come out of a woman's mouth in that situation.
True, but probably thrown in just for effect and is immaterial to the story. Everything else is very good reading for young padowans.
 
You know, all the woman hating on this board gets so old. You guys just think women are dying to get your seed and so that we can be chained to your sides forever? :lmao: Most of the really misogynistic fellas on here are probably just angry that they can't get regular dates. Learn some respect. There are plenty of men with way better attitudes waiting in the wings for women. Believe it or not, most of us want a mature and enduring love with someone special, not some paranoid little boy who thinks his semen is liquid gold to us.

I'm not referring to you Fishtales and superdave, although you are being borderline mysoginistic in applauding some obviously faked story about how women are just DYING to have a baby and trap some dead beat. Truth be told, we dream about having nice fathers and husbands who are deep and sensitive and with whom we share a real connection.
 
Real or not, you know that sort of shit happens all the time (female entrapping...) I am willing to bet there aren't a lot fo guys who have a vasectomy & use condoms. Not for the fake out, but for the safety part of it. I would LOVE to know what % of men actually carry condoms w/ them & use them.
 
Sassy69 said:
Real or not, you know that sort of shit happens all the time (female entrapping...) I am willing to bet there aren't a lot fo guys who have a vasectomy & use condoms. Not for the fake out, but for the safety part of it. I would LOVE to know what % of men actually carry condoms w/ them & use them.
Oh please, in this day and age everyone knows about paternity testing. I just get soooo sick of all the guys on here high fiving and talking about women like we are so desperate to have their money and their babies. It gets so OLD.
 
heatherrae said:
You know, all the woman hating on this board gets so old. You guys just think women are dying to get your seed and so that we can be chained to your sides forever? :lmao: Most of the really misogynistic fellas on here are probably just angry that they can't get regular dates. Learn some respect. There are plenty of men with way better attitudes waiting in the wings for women. Believe it or not, most of us want a mature and enduring love with someone special, not some paranoid little boy who thinks his semen is liquid gold to us.


Yup.. you got it, we are all simple minded mysogenists who cant get dates..

All we do is sit around at Dungeons and Dragons club after a hard day working at Comp USA for min wage and hate on women.

Damn you must have a camera in my moms basement.
 
milo hobgoblin said:
Yup.. you got it, we are all simple minded mysogenists who cant get dates..

All we do is sit around at Dungeons and Dragons club after a hard day working at Comp USA for min wage and hate on women.

Damn you must have a camera in my moms basement.
Yeah, next time pull the drapes and shave your back.
 
myself
I think men and women are equal idiots
I don't know what to do
kinda rough
 
heatherrae said:
You know, all the woman hating on this board gets so old. You guys just think women are dying to get your seed and so that we can be chained to your sides forever? :lmao: Most of the really misogynistic fellas on here are probably just angry that they can't get regular dates. Learn some respect. There are plenty of men with way better attitudes waiting in the wings for women. Believe it or not, most of us want a mature and enduring love with someone special, not some paranoid little boy who thinks his semen is liquid gold to us.

I'm not referring to you Fishtales and superdave, although you are being borderline mysoginistic in applauding some obviously faked story about how women are just DYING to have a baby and trap some dead beat. Truth be told, we dream about having nice fathers and husbands who are deep and sensitive and with whom we share a real connection.
Doesnt matter if its a real story or not, its the lesson it gives. Plenty of stories arent real but its the lessons learned.
 
superdave said:
Doesnt matter if its a real story or not, its the lesson it gives. Plenty of stories arent real but its the lessons learned.
so the lesson learned is to begin every relationship with a paranoid lie?

How about this for a lesson? Have sex with someone whom you love and trust. Then, show each other respect. If she turns out to be unworthy of your affections, move on to a better woman.
 
shit, i ate approximately 3000 calories too much today. talk about a mother of a cheat day. not a bad workout, though, all things considered.
 
4everhung said:
myself
I think men and women are equal idiots
I don't know what to do
kinda rough
I think you certainly lean the scales way over to the men's side on idiocy.
 
lol. That story is awesome.

Heather - Just like not all guys are great, the same goes for girls. There are some women who I would totally see pulling something like that. Holy fucking shit I can't even explain how nutso some girls I've met ended up being.
 
Nathan said:
lol. That story is awesome.

Heather - Just like not all guys are great, the same goes for girls. There are some women who I would totally see pulling something like that. Holy fucking shit I can't even explain how nutso some girls I've met ended up being.
nathan, you can't possibly believe that story. It is so obviously made up for SO MANY reasons. It renders the author looking laughable.
 
heatherrae said:
nathan, you can't possibly believe that story. It is so obviously made up for SO MANY reasons. It renders the author looking laughable.

I don't believe the story, no. I don't believe that the guy would get the vasectomy in the first place. I DO believe there are people fucked up enough to lie abuot shit like that. And I DO believe a fair number of girls sleep around enough - not necessarily even frequently but have cheated at some point - to end up in a situation like that.
 
Basically, I think a lot of people of both sexes do things other people might not approve of. Hell, a lot of people do things that if somebody else did to them they'd freak the fuck out. Hypocrisy is human nature. People are fucked. Try to surround yourself with the ones who think closest to the way you do and you will be happy - hopefully.
 
Nathan said:
I don't believe the story, no. I don't believe that the guy would get the vasectomy in the first place. I DO believe there are people fucked up enough to lie abuot shit like that. And I DO believe a fair number of girls sleep around enough - not necessarily even frequently but have cheated at some point - to end up in a situation like that.
Okay, sure I'm sure girls lie and get themselves in these situations. However, the point of the made up story is that you should get a vasectomy and go into relationships not telling the woman about the vasectomy so that you can trick them, because all women are just dying to "trap" you by getting pregnant. I just think it is silly and immature.
 
I totally see your side of it heather. Obviously men are going to lean more towards having compassion for the man in the story since that is who they can sympathize with the easiest. And vice versa women and the woman in the story.
Dude was weird for not telling the girl, sure. And the girl was just weird. The story was written to highlight the girl's oddities and the reader is meant to assume the guy smelled something was up (her character was not what it should be) and hence his decision to not be fully open with her.
 
i would enver ever have sex without a condom again in my life...for birth control or STD prevention...always have one on me too..hell i keep one in my truck and even in my wallet @ all times.
 
I might entertain the idea of getting a vestoritiy. My wife and I are done with kids. We certainly won't give our kids away, but we don't want any additional kids, so I'll chop it off.

It's chopping your dick off, right? I dread that. I really do.


or my wife can get sewed up. That would suck too.

life sucks when you're me.
 
heather.....I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on one point........women do this shit left and right. Not only do they get money then from the father......they also get more money from the state. Are the majority of men prick fucks?..........you bet. But women are quickly catching up. And I know first hand of women who have done this "multiple"....read "multiple" times. Real or not the story is depressingly accurate in terms of the woman's behavior. I'm not high fiving anybody either......it's depressing that things have gotten like this between men and women........and no it ain't all womens fault.

I'll agree with you though that the majority of women "start out" wanting a deep, enduring connection with a man.........but like men, they quickly become jaded in this world.
 
I agree with everyone..... in one way or another. It was a funny story.
If I ever ended up pregnant by a man who didn't want to be a father, I wouldn't want anything from him.... except, maybe GONEness. I would want him out of my life and not slowing me down. It would be easier to get a dead beat dad out of the picture, early, than making my child deal with having a dead-beat dad. I wouldn't want child support. It gives too many "rights" to dead beat dads(like visitation). I am from a good, solid, strong family. My child would be fine. Trapping a man is bad for the child. Trapped men make bad husbands. Men should want children and a wife if he's gonna have them. If a man does not want these things, then leave him the fuck alone. It's not for everybody and it's harsh for women to manipulate away the rest of a man's life.
 
heatherrae said:
Here is the quote in the paragraph which is so obviously fake:

"Her look changes just a bit. Something is beginning to sink in. Naturally, she reverts to women's logic. 'You're full of shit. You're trapped and you know it.' "

No woman is going to say, "you are trapped, and you know it." That is such obvious bad dialogue. That would never come out of a woman's mouth in that situation.


...i agree

to a point.
 
why the hell did he buy her jewelry after getting all those papers and knowing she was trying to trap him?
 
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It must be ficticous! No woman would ever cheat with a (loser) bad-boy then once pregnant try to stick with the stable, mature, nice guy to take care of her.

No way that would ever happen!
 
gonelifting said:
I might entertain the idea of getting a vestoritiy. My wife and I are done with kids. We certainly won't give our kids away, but we don't want any additional kids, so I'll chop it off.

It's chopping your dick off, right? I dread that. I really do.


or my wife can get sewed up. That would suck too.

life sucks when you're me.

Same here.....me and your wife are thru having kids also.

lololol

Seriously though, I do not want kids so I have thought about getting fixed. The past 2 girlfriends did not want kids either, and the 3 before that were undecided.

Perhaps young people are realizing kids aren't the joy society portrays them to be. (plus the younger the generation, usually equals less responsibility and patience. Kids are more of a burden than they use to be)
 
My dad had a vasectomy and along came my second brother :)

Sometimes they dont work 100%. But its cool, my little bro is awesome.
 
eh, I found it funny. They could have told it in a much shorter form to make it more believable though.

I could see some of the trailer that lives in my town doing that.

But, I could also see some guy somewhere actually try to get a girl pregnant if her family was rich and then try to marry her. I'm shure that happens quite often

Whiskey
 
as I have always said

1. donate sperm and have it saved on ice if you want kids later
2. bang away being sterile
3. you want kids go the sperm bank and pull it out and go from their



I love this story^^
 
heatherrae said:
You know, all the woman hating on this board gets so old. You guys just think women are dying to get your seed and so that we can be chained to your sides forever? :lmao: Most of the really misogynistic fellas on here are probably just angry that they can't get regular dates. Learn some respect. There are plenty of men with way better attitudes waiting in the wings for women. Believe it or not, most of us want a mature and enduring love with someone special, not some paranoid little boy who thinks his semen is liquid gold to us.

I'm not referring to you Fishtales and superdave, although you are being borderline mysoginistic in applauding some obviously faked story about how women are just DYING to have a baby and trap some dead beat. Truth be told, we dream about having nice fathers and husbands who are deep and sensitive and with whom we share a real connection.


weak heather
weak
just a few days ago you were high fiving that dumb bitch who thru a public temper tantrum.
remember that? throwing his belongings in the streets
that was okay and perfectly justifiable in your eyes.
double standard
 
Gambino said:
weak heather
weak
just a few days ago you were high fiving that dumb bitch who thru a public temper tantrum.
remember that? throwing his belongings in the streets
that was okay and perfectly justifiable in your eyes.
double standard
I thought she was funny. I said I wouldn't make an ass out of myself like she did, but that the cheater deserved it.

Now, in this case, if the story were remotely true, the girl would have deserved what she got. My problem isn't with the fictional guy in the story, although I think he is a moron for beginning a relationship the way that he did. My real problem is with the men on this board always being derogatory to women in general and thinking that we all are just fucking dying to have a baby with them to get their meager little paychecks. It gets OLD hearing it. Having a baby with someone that you have to try to squeeze a nickel out of their pockets is not exactly a fun time. The misogynistic generalizing gets on my nerves.

If a woman is meek, she is a "dumb whore" around here. If she is strong willed and outspoken she is a "bitch" or a "femi-nazi." It is tiresome, at best.
 
heatherrae said:
My real problem is with the men on this board always being derogatory to women in general and thinking that we all are just fucking dying to have a baby with them to get their meager little paychecks. It gets OLD hearing it.

It gets equally as old seeing it happen in real life.

heatherrae said:
If a woman is meek, she is a "dumb whore" around here. If she is strong willed and outspoken she is a "bitch" or a "femi-nazi." It is tiresome, at best.

There are still some females out there (Velvett, Seashell, Sassy, Jen, etc) who seem to get it. They are the definition of a true woman. I in no way see them as weak, bitches, or femi-nazis.

Most however, don't have a clue and will never be happy in life. Nothing will ever satisfy you....uh I mean 'them'.
 
Only marry foreign women.
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"Now you understand why US men prefer foreign born women: THEY TREAT US BETTER, RESPECT US, APPRECIATE THAT AFFECTION WE SHOW THEM, AND ACKNOWLEDGE OUR EFFORTS TO PROVIDE A BETTER LIFE."


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A huge percentage of American women are selfish, flighty, insecure, needy and psychotic, and quite capable of concealing those traits during the dating phase

White 'career' American chicks are the bottom of the barrel marriage-wise.

Foreign women from South America, Eastern Europe, and Asia are at the top. Only guys who travel (in other words, guys who are successful and ambitious enough to travel a lot) find these. But they never, ever go back.

Foreign-born women living in the US are the next best. They get married early...they are highly sought-after by American guys for their wifely skills (hell, any women who has ANY ability to be a wife is better than your average American chick, who knows NOTHING about being a wife)

Bottom of the barrel---white American chicks. Yecch.

Here's a story: I knew a guy who was Hungarian (parents emigrated) who tried for 15 years to find a half-decent women to marry. He's a doctor, by the way. Finally after 8 psycho-weirdo US chicks, he went back to the 'old country' to find a wife. The people there were lining the women up for him to meet...he's a rich American guy...they are considered the best husbands in the world.

He found this lovely wife. She is a total gem, and he's happy as hell. 2 kids. Happily ever after.


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I will go one step further and differentiate between Western women vs. non-Western women. This is not just an American phenomenon, most women in Western countries have that cold, bitchy, superficial, stuck up attitude. A lot of Western women hold themselves as the pure center of the relationship. If the men don't fit a rigid and unrealistic criteria or she doesn't feel the man can take care of her enough (even if she has a higher paying job) then she will drop him like a hot potato, regardless of his character or commitment to the relationship.

Popular Myth: Western men looking for foreign wives are only seeking subservient slaves.

Truth: Most Western men today are evolved and modern and truly believe in the 50/50 system. Most Western men are dismayed by the lack of sincerity of Western women. I can do my own laundry and cooking thank you!

Yes, Latin American and Eastern European women do make better mates because both come from more conservative and family oriented cultures where relationships and commitment are actually revered.


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I was absolutely blown away by the quality of women on my trip to eastern Europe. Classy, cultured, traditional values, how could you ask for more?


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One year with my Japanese girlfriend

So far...
-No fights.
-Great sex every night.
-She cooks a delicious meal every night (unless I take her out).
-No guilt trips for going out with the guys.
-Thin and absolutely beautiful.

Think I've finally found myself a keeper. One thing's for sure; I'll never go date an American girl again.


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Latin American women seem to make decent wives. My friend married a hot girl from Venezuela. Sweet, beautiful, cooks, cleans, and is the perfect wife. Like how American women were in the 1950s America.


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As I said, it's a competitive marketplace. We're not looking to marry other men. The real world is not about what is fair, but what you can get.

American men have options. American women do not. So the American women huff and puff, and scowl at the incoming foreign brides who don't demand the feminazi equality bullshit. You WISH American men didn't have choices. You're like a labor union that's pissed off because the company is hiring non-union employees.


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Honestly I wish I could have found an American wife with all the qualities of my foreign wife. I could not, because they do not exist. Here is a partial list of her loveliness

1: Sensible and good with money.
2: Genuine commitment.
3: Very family oriented.
4: She enjoys housework.
5: Hard working.
6: She does not have to diet to look great

Foreign women are comfortable in their femininity. As a male I am attracted to this. And I love her with all my heart.

I believe that American women have priced themselves out of the marketplace. Too needy, too many headgames, too easy to divorce.

Not many foreign men want American wives either.


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American women..
- highest maintenance (I've never heard of a foreign bride demanding her husband buy expensive house & cars)
- fattest in the world
- most likely to cheat
- highest rate of divorce (60% - US-US marriages; 20% - US-foreign marriages)
- largest payout in divorce court (you'll be ass-raped for everything you earned, plus most of what you will earn for years to come)
- bitchiest
- most likely to nag constantly
- most likely to believe in feminism and "equality"
- most likely to hate men
- spend least amount of time with her children
- worst at cooking and cleaning
- fucked & chucked by tons of guys before tricking you into marriage


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3 reasons to marry an American woman

You actually believe BBW = big BEAUTIFUL wife.
You believe nagging is essential for personal growth.
You really look forward to the day your BBW wife divorces you and you gladly fork over 50% over your hard earned assets, plus child support and alimony (a lard ass bitch for sure is not going to have a good job). Then after that you have to figure out how to live on 20% of your income.

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Every foreign girl I've met was superior in every conceivable way to any other girl I've known, from attractiveness to personality.


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I have a foreign Latino girl and she blows away American women. This web site are 100% true; I can speak from experience of living with my girl for a month. I could never go back to American trash women. I also use to think web sites like that were stupid until I had the experience for myself. It has changed my life for the better, made me look at American women in a different light.


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I wouldn't even consider dating an American women, the majority are bitchy prudes that only put out when they think they can cash in. I for one will never spend a huge amount of money of some stupid bitch just to get laid. Mexican and Asian women are a much better choice and they look better than American chics too.


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After many many years of dealing with American women, I've hit an interesting point. I've lost ALL sexual interest in them, in fact I just about puke walking down the sidewalk on any day, seeing all those shitty, rude, mean, snotty American women.

Strange thing, cause for so long I've been quite a horndog, chasing women at all levels. I'm still totally attracted to foreign women...Indians, Orientals, Europeans.

But show me an American chick and I basically couldn't care less. Tell me how "beautiful" she is...doesn't matter. I suppose from an intellectual viewpoint I can see the beauty, but it's not any more attractive to me than...let's say...admiring a beautiful horse or a well-groomed cat. OK, admirable, but not sexy folks.

They say that sex is 90% mental...well, my mind has rejected American women completely.


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Since I've been traveling overseas I have met many nice Japanese, Russian, and Spanish women. I can tell you this....the women are so much better. I want a lady that, when I get home from work, would rather kiss me than scream at me for some trivial reason like I didn't mow the lawn. I can do without the nagging thanks. To all my fellow American men... American women are easily replaceable...go Asian, or Russian, even European (except British, Italian, and French women) and you can't go wrong. Experience is the best teacher.


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I can not date white American women anymore. I was in the navy and I have seen the light. Women from other countries just look better and treat you better too! I didn't pay for shit when I was overseas and I pay up the wazoo here. Any rational person can figure it out from here.


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American women are high-maintenance primadonnas with attitudes. I'd take a foreign born Russian or Latina woman any day. They are much nicer and normally MUCH SMARTER than most American women - plus they don't watch Rosie and Ricci Lake - they go to the library or perform outside activities.


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Dating or being married to an American woman is like driving a beat-up Ford Escort. If you are only used to driving a beat-up Ford Escort, then you have no idea what it feels like when you drive a Bentley or Ferrari. You need to at least test-drive a Ferrari, so you'll have a reference point on what a real car feels like.
 
LOL@this entire thread.

I agree with Stilleto - why did he buy her jewelry if he had all those papers ready to spring on her. That doesn't make sense. I believe the story was more fictitious than true to life though there were most likely kernels of truth in it.

As for how often this sort of thing happens - all too often. Makes me ashamed to be female.

I am mystified by the number of women who go on talk shows swearing up and down they are 1000000000 percent sure, there is not a shadow of a doubt that THIS MAN (as opposed to the 12 others who the paternity test showed were NOT the father) is the father of her baby. Then when they come out flat busted they jump up and run off the stage covering their faces screaming and crying! I dont know whether to laugh or shake my head. Although the lie detector tests are funny too when the men swear up and down that they haven't been cheating.... a lie detector can be beat. A paternity test can not. So I have to hand it to the men on this one. In this ONE area they have succeeded in coming off as "smarter" than their female liar counterparts.

Equally mystifying are those women who DO prove that THIS MAN is the father of her child. Why on earth would a woman degrade herself by dragging a LOSER onto national TV just to prove that he fathered her baby? What did she gain by that?

*scratches head*

As for heatherrae's point about all the woman hating around here getting old. Getting? Was old years ago... I suppose we need consider the source. :)
 
BIKINIMOM said:
LOL@this entire thread.

I agree with Stilleto - why did he buy her jewelry if he had all those papers ready to spring on her. That doesn't make sense. I believe the story was more fictitious than true to life though there were most likely kernels of truth in it.

As for how often this sort of thing happens - all too often. Makes me ashamed to be female.

I am mystified by the number of women who go on talk shows swearing up and down they are 1000000000 percent sure, there is not a shadow of a doubt that THIS MAN (as opposed to the 12 others who the paternity test showed were NOT the father) is the father of her baby. Then when they come out flat busted they jump up and run off the stage covering their faces screaming and crying! I dont know whether to laugh or shake my head. Although the lie detector tests are funny too when the men swear up and down that they haven't been cheating.... a lie detector can be beat. A paternity test can not. So I have to hand it to the men on this one. In this ONE area they have succeeded in coming off as "smarter" than their female liar counterparts.

Equally mystifying are those women who DO prove that THIS MAN is the father of her child. Why on earth would a woman degrade herself by dragging a LOSER onto national TV just to prove that he fathered her baby? What did she gain by that?

*scratches head*

As for heatherrae's point about all the woman hating around here getting old. Getting? Was old years ago... I suppose we need consider the source. :)
I don't get that either. Why would anyone go on TV, when they know there is such a HUGE potential to be humiliated. You can get home paternity tests now for like $100 bucks. If the guy will cooperate, just get one of those.

My only guess is that these women really feel they need the child support and they can't afford to test all the men that they slept with. So, they go on TV for the free paternity tests. ??? Geezo, that has to be humiliating if you have any self pride.

Personally, I would rather skip any support from an unwilling father so that my baby wouldn't have to visit him and hear nasty things about mom and just generally be around a toxic father.
 
heatherrae said:
I don't get that either. Why would anyone go on TV, when they know there is such a HUGE potential to be humiliated. You can get home paternity tests now for like $100 bucks. If the guy will cooperate, just get one of those.

My only guess is that these women really feel they need the child support and they can't afford to test all the men that they slept with. So, they go on TV for the free paternity tests. ??? Geezo, that has to be humiliating if you have any self pride.

Personally, I would rather skip any support from an unwilling father so that my baby wouldn't have to visit him and hear nasty things about mom and just generally be around a toxic father.

LOL What support can these women get from a dude whose only skill lies with XBOX?

As for "give me my kids and just leave us alone." From your lips to the ears of God.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
LOL What support can these women get from a dude whose only skill lies with XBOX?

As for "give me my kids and just leave us alone." From your lips to the ears of God.
Amen! lol.
 
dead_reggin_storage_fashi said:
as I have always said

1. donate sperm and have it saved on ice if you want kids later
2. bang away being sterile
3. you want kids go the sperm bank and pull it out and go from their



I love this story^^
only about 1 in 10 guy's can have thier sperm succesfully frozen
 
Vasectomy: $400. Speechless look on her face: priceless.

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Date: 2007-02-06, 2:24PM PST


I'll try to sum up a funny story that happened a few years ago:

I got a vasectomy.

I met a girl soon afterwards. She was nice and attractive but with a selfish streak that raised a big red flag. She was 32 at the time and I could practically HEAR her biological clock ticking. Regardless, she was a good lay, easy on the eyes, and reasonably good company.

I did NOT tell her about my vasectomy and I always used a condom with her to protect against STDs. She assumed, obviously, that the condom was only used for birth control. Silly girl.

We date for a few months. I never made any move towards commitment but she brought it up ocassionally. For me, this was a casual but pleasant relationship. For her - as I was to find out - it was part of life-changing series of events that she was planning very carefully.

Four months into dating, I get the "I'm pregnant" talk. She's going on and on about how the condom must have broke and now we really need to think about getting married "for the baby". She's positively giddy. She has a baby in her and she thinks she's gonna have a good meal ticket (me) to go along with her new 7lb annuity.

At this point, I'm just as giddy. I get to pull the reverse "oops" on her. I figured that she slept with some bad boy and got knocked up. Good thing I was using condoms! Better still that I have a serious mistrust of women who can't think beyond their own uteri.

So I wait a couple of days to "think about all this." I meet her again. I say I don't want kids and that she should have an abortion. I know where this is going and sure enough it goes there. She goes completely batshit insane on me. There were the usual insults about my manhood. There were threats of legal action. It was all very ugly and I was loving every minute of it.

Well, I let her stew for a few days. She leaves me nasty messages on my phone. She sends awful emails. I'm laughing hysterically.

It was time to drop the hammer. While she was stewing I was busy. First I get a notarized copy from the urologist who performed the vasectomy. Next I get a notarized copy of the TWO test results indicating a "negative test result for sperm" to show I'm sterile and shooting blanks. Finally, I get a letter from a shark attorney stating he has seen the other documents and is prepared to litigate against this woman if she continues to communicate with me in such an unpleasant manner. Also, the letter states that we will insist on DNA testing to show that the baby is not mine. I'm ready.

I meet with this woman at her place. I bring flowers and a small bit of jewelry to show I am willing to reconcile and assume my responsibilities as a new father. I also have stuck in my pocket the documents I have prepared.

She's all giddy again. Her plan is going perfectly - or so she thinks. We talk about our future. We have some pretty good sex. Then, as I am about to walk out the door, I ask her the $64,000 question. "Are you sure that this baby is mine?"

Well, she goes batshit insane again. Hell, she ought to. Her plan could completely unravel if there is ANY question about my paternity. Oh, she's really screaming now. How dare I question her morals. Do I think she's a slut. I'm just trying to weasel out of my responsibilities... blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda.

I'm not really mad. I'm kind of embarrassed for her. But since she won't shut up and the neighbors can hear all of this, I ask her to step back inside and sit down. She sits on the sofa and calms down a bit. She is glaring at me with all the moral self-righteousness that only a woman can muster up. She thinks she has me trapped. She is 100% convinced her plan has worked. Oh, the tangled web of lies and deceit she has wrought around herself and I am about to hack through them with a few pieces of paper.

I reach into my pocket slowly. I extract the three pieces of paper and unfold them slowly and deliberately.

I tell her simply, "You're screwed".

Her look doesn't change. There is no way she can fathom what I have prepared.

I continue. "I am sterile"

Her look changes just a bit. Something is beginning to sink in. Naturally, she reverts to women's logic. "You're full of shit. You're trapped and you know it."

I hold up the letter and the test results. "Three months before we met, I had a vasectomy. Here is a notarized letter from him stating what I had done. Here are two test results showing that I tested negative for the presence of sperm. Blanks. I am shooting blanks. That baby inside you is simply not mine."

This woman is not to be swayed by logic and clear documentation. "Bullshit, those are fakes."

I was ready for that. "No, they are real. This last piece of paper is from my attorney. It's a simple letter to you that states if you pursue any kind of legal action against me for child support that I will insist on a DNA test to prove paternity, that is, to prove that your baby is not mine."

I give the woman all the documents. She reads them slowly, deliberately. With each passing second she can feel in her soul that she has made a very bad mistake. With denial swept away, she started to cry. It's a small cry at first. Then it becomes deeper and more painful. By the time she gets to the letter from the lawyer she is sobbing.

I had no sympathy for her. I turned and walked out the door. Even after I closed the door I could still hear her sobbing.

Epilogue -

I never heard directly from this woman again. I did hear through my friends that she did indeed have the baby. I also heard that the real father was some guy in a band she had met. I assumed that after 30, women stopped going after musicians, bikers, criminals, and thugs. Silly me for thinking the best of American women.

The Moral of the Story -

Get a vasectomy but keep it a secret.
 
I gotta say something here on behalf of american women, because I do think this is overgeneralization and to a degree...........a product of men who are intimidated by strong women. Now, have I seen some of those characteristics described in american women..........yup! But to say that foreign women aren't looking for their rich american husbands to take them out of 3rd world shit is....well......disingenuine. I knew a stunning russian woman in San Francisco that married an american man simply so she could get her citizenship. Once she did, she came to me for advice on how to tactfully ask for a divorce.....???

Anyway.......if men want to bitch about women, we need to examine the society we've built....because that's the root cause of why women are the way they are. For every cunt, there's a father who raised her that way.
And I disagree that men who go get foreign wives aren't looking for subservience........they damn well are.









4everhung said:
Only marry foreign women.
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"Now you understand why US men prefer foreign born women: THEY TREAT US BETTER, RESPECT US, APPRECIATE THAT AFFECTION WE SHOW THEM, AND ACKNOWLEDGE OUR EFFORTS TO PROVIDE A BETTER LIFE."


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A huge percentage of American women are selfish, flighty, insecure, needy and psychotic, and quite capable of concealing those traits during the dating phase

White 'career' American chicks are the bottom of the barrel marriage-wise.

Foreign women from South America, Eastern Europe, and Asia are at the top. Only guys who travel (in other words, guys who are successful and ambitious enough to travel a lot) find these. But they never, ever go back.

Foreign-born women living in the US are the next best. They get married early...they are highly sought-after by American guys for their wifely skills (hell, any women who has ANY ability to be a wife is better than your average American chick, who knows NOTHING about being a wife)

Bottom of the barrel---white American chicks. Yecch.

Here's a story: I knew a guy who was Hungarian (parents emigrated) who tried for 15 years to find a half-decent women to marry. He's a doctor, by the way. Finally after 8 psycho-weirdo US chicks, he went back to the 'old country' to find a wife. The people there were lining the women up for him to meet...he's a rich American guy...they are considered the best husbands in the world.

He found this lovely wife. She is a total gem, and he's happy as hell. 2 kids. Happily ever after.


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I will go one step further and differentiate between Western women vs. non-Western women. This is not just an American phenomenon, most women in Western countries have that cold, bitchy, superficial, stuck up attitude. A lot of Western women hold themselves as the pure center of the relationship. If the men don't fit a rigid and unrealistic criteria or she doesn't feel the man can take care of her enough (even if she has a higher paying job) then she will drop him like a hot potato, regardless of his character or commitment to the relationship.

Popular Myth: Western men looking for foreign wives are only seeking subservient slaves.

Truth: Most Western men today are evolved and modern and truly believe in the 50/50 system. Most Western men are dismayed by the lack of sincerity of Western women. I can do my own laundry and cooking thank you!

Yes, Latin American and Eastern European women do make better mates because both come from more conservative and family oriented cultures where relationships and commitment are actually revered.


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I was absolutely blown away by the quality of women on my trip to eastern Europe. Classy, cultured, traditional values, how could you ask for more?


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One year with my Japanese girlfriend

So far...
-No fights.
-Great sex every night.
-She cooks a delicious meal every night (unless I take her out).
-No guilt trips for going out with the guys.
-Thin and absolutely beautiful.

Think I've finally found myself a keeper. One thing's for sure; I'll never go date an American girl again.


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Latin American women seem to make decent wives. My friend married a hot girl from Venezuela. Sweet, beautiful, cooks, cleans, and is the perfect wife. Like how American women were in the 1950s America.


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As I said, it's a competitive marketplace. We're not looking to marry other men. The real world is not about what is fair, but what you can get.

American men have options. American women do not. So the American women huff and puff, and scowl at the incoming foreign brides who don't demand the feminazi equality bullshit. You WISH American men didn't have choices. You're like a labor union that's pissed off because the company is hiring non-union employees.


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Honestly I wish I could have found an American wife with all the qualities of my foreign wife. I could not, because they do not exist. Here is a partial list of her loveliness

1: Sensible and good with money.
2: Genuine commitment.
3: Very family oriented.
4: She enjoys housework.
5: Hard working.
6: She does not have to diet to look great

Foreign women are comfortable in their femininity. As a male I am attracted to this. And I love her with all my heart.

I believe that American women have priced themselves out of the marketplace. Too needy, too many headgames, too easy to divorce.

Not many foreign men want American wives either.


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American women..
- highest maintenance (I've never heard of a foreign bride demanding her husband buy expensive house & cars)
- fattest in the world
- most likely to cheat
- highest rate of divorce (60% - US-US marriages; 20% - US-foreign marriages)
- largest payout in divorce court (you'll be ass-raped for everything you earned, plus most of what you will earn for years to come)
- bitchiest
- most likely to nag constantly
- most likely to believe in feminism and "equality"
- most likely to hate men
- spend least amount of time with her children
- worst at cooking and cleaning
- fucked & chucked by tons of guys before tricking you into marriage


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3 reasons to marry an American woman

You actually believe BBW = big BEAUTIFUL wife.
You believe nagging is essential for personal growth.
You really look forward to the day your BBW wife divorces you and you gladly fork over 50% over your hard earned assets, plus child support and alimony (a lard ass bitch for sure is not going to have a good job). Then after that you have to figure out how to live on 20% of your income.

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Every foreign girl I've met was superior in every conceivable way to any other girl I've known, from attractiveness to personality.


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I have a foreign Latino girl and she blows away American women. This web site are 100% true; I can speak from experience of living with my girl for a month. I could never go back to American trash women. I also use to think web sites like that were stupid until I had the experience for myself. It has changed my life for the better, made me look at American women in a different light.


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I wouldn't even consider dating an American women, the majority are bitchy prudes that only put out when they think they can cash in. I for one will never spend a huge amount of money of some stupid bitch just to get laid. Mexican and Asian women are a much better choice and they look better than American chics too.


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After many many years of dealing with American women, I've hit an interesting point. I've lost ALL sexual interest in them, in fact I just about puke walking down the sidewalk on any day, seeing all those shitty, rude, mean, snotty American women.

Strange thing, cause for so long I've been quite a horndog, chasing women at all levels. I'm still totally attracted to foreign women...Indians, Orientals, Europeans.

But show me an American chick and I basically couldn't care less. Tell me how "beautiful" she is...doesn't matter. I suppose from an intellectual viewpoint I can see the beauty, but it's not any more attractive to me than...let's say...admiring a beautiful horse or a well-groomed cat. OK, admirable, but not sexy folks.

They say that sex is 90% mental...well, my mind has rejected American women completely.


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Since I've been traveling overseas I have met many nice Japanese, Russian, and Spanish women. I can tell you this....the women are so much better. I want a lady that, when I get home from work, would rather kiss me than scream at me for some trivial reason like I didn't mow the lawn. I can do without the nagging thanks. To all my fellow American men... American women are easily replaceable...go Asian, or Russian, even European (except British, Italian, and French women) and you can't go wrong. Experience is the best teacher.


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I can not date white American women anymore. I was in the navy and I have seen the light. Women from other countries just look better and treat you better too! I didn't pay for shit when I was overseas and I pay up the wazoo here. Any rational person can figure it out from here.


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American women are high-maintenance primadonnas with attitudes. I'd take a foreign born Russian or Latina woman any day. They are much nicer and normally MUCH SMARTER than most American women - plus they don't watch Rosie and Ricci Lake - they go to the library or perform outside activities.


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Dating or being married to an American woman is like driving a beat-up Ford Escort. If you are only used to driving a beat-up Ford Escort, then you have no idea what it feels like when you drive a Bentley or Ferrari. You need to at least test-drive a Ferrari, so you'll have a reference point on what a real car feels like.
 
redsamurai said:
I gotta say something here on behalf of american women, because I do think this is overgeneralization and to a degree...........a product of men who are intimidated by strong women. Now, have I seen some of those characteristics described in american women..........yup! But to say that foreign women aren't looking for their rich american husbands to take them out of 3rd world shit is....well......disingenuine. I knew a stunning russian woman in San Francisco that married an american man simply so she could get her citizenship. Once she did, she came to me for advice on how to tactfully ask for a divorce.....???

Anyway.......if men want to bitch about women, we need to examine the society we've built....because that's the root cause of why women are the way they are. For every cunt, there's a father who raised her that way.
And I disagree that men who go get foreign wives aren't looking for subservience........they damn well are.
actually myself I've dated only one bad apple in my life,and that was my last gf
my wife and I split,but it was easy...$640
I had a fiancee I split with and moved her out,and then 2 weeks later I get the phone call "I'm pregnant"
so I moved her back in and had a "one day at a time approach"
she hadn't even had the baby and was already leveraging it against me
I don't regard her as a "bad apple",but she came damn close
 
I'm not looking for subservience either
I've dated a Russian girl and she was tough as hell
I kinda got hooked on it
the accent too blows me away
I'd get hard just hearing her over the phone
 
redsamurai said:
I gotta say something here on behalf of american women, because I do think this is overgeneralization and to a degree...........a product of men who are intimidated by strong women. Now, have I seen some of those characteristics described in american women..........yup! But to say that foreign women aren't looking for their rich american husbands to take them out of 3rd world shit is....well......disingenuine. I knew a stunning russian woman in San Francisco that married an american man simply so she could get her citizenship. Once she did, she came to me for advice on how to tactfully ask for a divorce.....???

Anyway.......if men want to bitch about women, we need to examine the society we've built....because that's the root cause of why women are the way they are. For every cunt, there's a father who raised her that way.
And I disagree that men who go get foreign wives aren't looking for subservience........they damn well are.
Well said.
 
I had to explain all our typical american expressions
e.g.
I got something up my sleeve
she'd be "what's that baby?"
 
redsamurai said:
I gotta say something here on behalf of american women, because I do think this is overgeneralization and to a degree...........a product of men who are intimidated by strong women. Now, have I seen some of those characteristics described in american women..........yup! But to say that foreign women aren't looking for their rich american husbands to take them out of 3rd world shit is....well......disingenuine. I knew a stunning russian woman in San Francisco that married an american man simply so she could get her citizenship. Once she did, she came to me for advice on how to tactfully ask for a divorce.....???

Anyway.......if men want to bitch about women, we need to examine the society we've built....because that's the root cause of why women are the way they are. For every cunt, there's a father who raised her that way.
And I disagree that men who go get foreign wives aren't looking for subservience........they damn well are.

LOL at the Hungarian villagers lining up to pimp their daughters to "the rich American man" considered by these poor ignorant fools to be "the best husbands in the world".

I REALLY enjoyed that egotistical version of reality from an AMERICAN MAN. :rolleyes:

Guess what sugarcakes? There are those of us that refuse to date American men... unless they have traveled extensively and lived abroad.

But seeing as how I am married, I guess I am out of that loop.
 
wasn't me either
razorguns threw up that link
I'm sort of a history buff and the merging of two cultures appeals to me as well
 
redsamurai said:
BM, I hope you're not linking me to that post?? That wasn't me.......... :confused:

Oh GOD NO!!

I was agreeing with your post - was very well said. Thank you. :)

I was laughing at the story of the "Stupid Hungarian Villagers" lining up to pimp their daughters to "an American husband". The man in question was HUNGARIAN BORN and RAISED but who moved to the United States. So for their daughters it was the best of both worlds. A REAL Hungarian man with REAL American money giving the best of both worlds to their daughters and grandchildren.

I was raised many summers in Hungary in my Mama's village. And ya'll can believe that Americans were not then and still are not now held in high regard.

THEY ONLY WANT THE STUPID AMERICAN MAN'S MONEY. :) CAN YOU SAY, "GREEN CARD AND HALF?"
 
Ummmm yeah.....aren't like american men the most hated on the planet??............yeaaahhhhhhhhhhh



BIKINIMOM said:
Oh GOD NO!!

I was agreeing with your post - was very well said. Thank you. :)

I was laughing at the story of the "Stupid Hungarian Villagers" lining up to pimp their daughters to "an American husband". The man in question was HUNGARIAN BORN and RAISED but who moved to the United States. So for their daughters it was the best of both worlds. A REAL Hungarian man with REAL American money giving the best of both worlds to their daughters and grandchildren.

I was raised many summers in Hungary in my Mama's village. And ya'll can believe that Americans were not then and still are not now held in high regard.

THEY ONLY WANT THE STUPID AMERICAN MAN'S MONEY. :) CAN YOU SAY, "GREEN CARD AND HALF?"
 
milo hobgoblin said:
I got a vasectomy.... [The Story]

The Moral of the Story -

Get a vasectomy but keep it a secret.


I am pretty sure I love you.

























Perhaps, even for just that story alone.

:chomp:
 
had the same arguements about this with my last girlfriend
the stats are
american man marries american woman 50+% divorce rate
american man marries foreign woman 20% divorce rate

I've heard a couple of counterarguements
they just want a green card and are cutting bait once stateside
american man just wants a "subservient" wife he can dominate

so which is it?

I'm not getting much heat from the guys of EF
 
4everhung said:
I'm not getting much heat from the guys of EF


of course you're not........cause secretly we all want "bush bitch" from Eddie Murphy's RAW. You know, some stupid cum dumpster who's just about smart enough to do menial house chores and has a shock collar on her that drops her if she ventures outside of the garden perimeter. Yeah......that's the american dream!!!










:sick:
 
redsamurai said:
of course you're not........cause secretly we all want "bush bitch" from Eddie Murphy's RAW. You know, some stupid cum dumpster who's just about smart enough to do menial house chores and has a shock collar on her that drops her if she ventures outside of the garden perimeter. Yeah......that's the american dream!!!










:sick:
the sharpest woman I ever dated and bonded the best with was a Jewish psychologist with a PhD from Boston University 12 years my senior
she said "you can do whatever you want to me"
and
"you and I will probably never have an arguement"

we met in the gym
 
redsamurai said:
of course you're not........cause secretly we all want "bush bitch" from Eddie Murphy's RAW. You know, some stupid cum dumpster who's just about smart enough to do menial house chores and has a shock collar on her that drops her if she ventures outside of the garden perimeter. Yeah......that's the american dream!!!

:sick:

Are you a male or a female or just some jackass alter?

Either way you are coming off as a little bitch, so I suppose gender is irrelevant.

I do not know one guy who thinks what you described. Not a single one. You're simply pulling feminist bullshit from the air. You go girl!
 
yes, I dated a phd in psychology too.....for 4 long, long, long, long...........years. I know what I'm talking about.............there's a reason she's a psychologist. And yes, I bonded with this woman very heavily.....because as a psychologist she knew exactly how to make herself come across. Simply the most disingenuis person I've ever been around.
 
redsamurai said:
yes, I dated a phd in psychology too.....for 4 long, long, long, long...........years. I know what I'm talking about.............there's a reason she's a psychologist. And yes, I bonded with this woman very heavily.....because as a psychologist she knew exactly how to make herself come across. Simply the most disingenuis person I've ever been around.
I cut bait relatively early
she had 3 kids and was 48 and I 36
 
I later saw her in a big ass black 7 series late model BMW with a "vietnam veterans" tag
good job Rosemary
 
sidestory
Rosemary's two brothers are heart surgeons
they had a 3 person partnership
my sister's best friend was married to the third guy
he'd come out to our family lake house with his wife and 4 kids
decent looking guy and wife was a kinda fatso "has been"

they're not married anymore
 
oh shit milo I just realized I posted the same story as your original
guess I could start at the front of the thread
 
you're a homosexual........of course you don't

:rolleyes:




alien amp pharm said:
Are you a male or a female or just some jackass alter?

Either way you are coming off as a little bitch, so I suppose gender is irrelevant.

I do not know one guy who thinks what you described. Not a single one. You're simply pulling feminist bullshit from the air. You go girl!
 
my old wingman/housemate eddie with his gf from romania
eddie got more ass than a toilet seat
him and Delia having been living together for almost 2 years now
 
He bought her jewelry and stuff to make her happy so he could fuck her one more time before showing her the papers. Pretty obvious I thought...
 
I was dating my russian girl when eddie lived with me
he went and got him him own foreign girl
 
fuckin' was reading in the wall street journal the other day about how the flood of russian and eastern european woman are crowding out the american and western european models
get you one while they're cheap
 
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