A man bench pressed 1005 lbs this weekend

[chewyxrage]

it didn't really look like he locked out...but oh well. that guy cracks me up.

 

[SuperShredder]

So now bench press is ahead of deadlifts right?

 

[TheProject]

i believe that. i have little reason to doubt that technique is important. but is your statement above to be taken generally, or specifically in this case as well?

here's my thought process:

his shirted bench is 1005. his raw is probably between 725-750 (one of my assumptions, hopefully not unreasonable). the question is, what components are responsible for that 250+ difference? the two obvious factors that come to my mind, when comparing a raw lift to a shirted lift, are what the shirt can add, and any differences in technique between the two styles of benching (for a given person at a given time).

so, are you saying that gene may add 50+ to his raw by using a different technique when shirted? and if so, isn't this difference made possible by his using a shirt?

if not, or if there's something i'm overlooking, then my 2nd assumption is perhaps invalid. and that's ok. the conclusion isn't set in stone, but offered on a provisional basis.

Well, I don't know what Gene's bench training is, so this is admittedly pure speculation...

Some guys don't even train their raw bench. Rychlak might be one...I dunno.

Speaking solely for myself, I use the same form for raw bench as I do shirted, generally speaking.

His technique adds a considerable amount compared to a bb-style bench, as does his training, and his shirt. All of that combined is why he's able to do that.

Having watched the lift now, it looks solid to me.

What gets me is the people that will come on here and say "sure, if you give ME a bench shirt, I could bench 500 pounds too" or whatever the number is.

No. No you can't. It takes a specific style of training and an assload of practice.

Also, I called Shadow, and he agrees that I'm right and he's wrong.

And in conclusion, I'd just like to say that I'm smarter than all of you.

End of Story.

 

[The Shadow]

Also, I called Shadow, and he agrees that I'm right and he's wrong.

And in conclusion, I'd just like to say that I'm smarter than all of you.

End of Story.

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LMAO...what planet are you on again??

btw - I did inlcine dbs today...I got 100's for 10....shirted and got the 200's for 155

 

[Dial_tone]

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LMAO...what planet are you on again??

btw - I did inlcine dbs today...I got 100's for 10....shirted and got the 200's for 155

I'm getting some calf socks. I'm gonna standing press my car.

 

[The Shadow]

lol

In all seriousness...theres a guy who push presses 345 from his traps to full extension - back to traps for sets of 6

 

[TheProject]

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LMAO...what planet are you on again??

btw - I did inlcine dbs today...I got 100's for 10....shirted and got the 200's for 155

LOL..beats me, but the clouds sure are pretty today.

And I bet you used a mirror for your shirted sets.

Cheater.

 

[The Shadow]

lol

 

[TheProject]

lol

I'm serious. I've never seen you work out, but I bet you totally wear your Just Shoot Me Elliot hat while you work out and check yourself out in the mirror after every set.

 

[Whiskey]

Pshh, now I have a new goal to get that much in d-bells

Whiskey

 

[The Shadow]

I'm serious. I've never seen you work out, but I bet you totally wear your Just Shoot Me Elliot hat while you work out and check yourself out in the mirror after every set.

nah -
Im into doorags these days.......


I do have a goatee though - so im pretending to be a plr

 

[TheProject]

nah -
Im into doorags these days.......


I do have a goatee though - so im pretending to be a plr

You shave your head too?

 

[The Shadow]

no...but its close

 

[jackangel]

Well, I don't know what Gene's bench training is, so this is admittedly pure speculation...

Some guys don't even train their raw bench. Rychlak might be one...I dunno.

Speaking solely for myself, I use the same form for raw bench as I do shirted, generally speaking.

His technique adds a considerable amount compared to a bb-style bench, as does his training, and his shirt. All of that combined is why he's able to do that.

Having watched the lift now, it looks solid to me.

What gets me is the people that will come on here and say "sure, if you give ME a bench shirt, I could bench 500 pounds too" or whatever the number is.

No. No you can't. It takes a specific style of training and an assload of practice.

Also, I called Shadow, and he agrees that I'm lee and he's wong.

And in conclusion, I'd just like to say that I'm less funny than all of you.

End of Story.

ok. it's comforting to hear you tell me things i already knew.

you rule.

and shadow is a bit of a dairy queen, if you know what i mean.

 

[Lumberg]

I hate do rags

 

[The Shadow]

ok. it's comforting to hear you tell me things i already knew.

you rule.

and shadow is a bit of a dairy queen, if you know what i mean.

Spekaing of which??

YOu still snowballing for a quater per throw to get bus fare to see good ole mom down at the corner of Pump and Chump??

 

[The Shadow]

I hate do rags

But I make it look GOOOOD

 

[TheProject]

Spekaing of which??

YOu still snowballing for a quater per throw to get bus fare to see good ole mom down at the corner of Pump and Chump??

Anyone here who hasn't seen Shadow use this joke before?

I guess there's gotta be someone that registered yesterday.

 

[The Shadow]

Anyone here who hasn't seen Shadow use this joke before?

I guess there's gotta be someone that registered yesterday.

it was originally used to describe you...oldie but a goodie.....




ok - why dont you go play paddy-cake with a couple of flint rocks near a pool Napalm

 

[wootoom]

thats not bad WTF!!!!

 

[biteme]

benching with a shirt that is like having springs doesn't count. The man can't bench that much on his own, no fucking way.

 

[chesty]

that is baad ass. shirt or no shirt anyone of us under that weight would have been crushed

 

[pitbullstl]

i stopped arguing.
anyone other than powerlifters and olympic lifters don't understand obviously.

Wrong again.....

I WAS a powerlifter, and even after I made the switch to BB, I'm still stronger than most PL's I meet.

But shirts are for bitches. I'll never break 600 lbs on a bench raw, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna do it with a shirt on (plus they make me chafe )

I understand completely, and I still say a shirted bench is not a bench at all. Furthermore watching a guy make a horseshoe out of his spine doesn't impress me either. Benchpress, not benchbendandpress.

 

[biteme]

that is baad ass. shirt or no shirt anyone of us under that weight would have been crushed

Without a doubt, probably. It's just not a legitimate bench press. It would be like me putting springs in my shoes and jumping 6 feet in the air.

 

[pitbullstl]

I've powerlifted for a long time. It used to be that a single ply shirt was good for at most 10%. This means a 600 lb raw would get 660 with a shirt. There have been so many improvements to the shirt technology as well as how the lifter wears them. For example, Rychlak wears an open back with the neck line pulled all the way down to his pecs. This makes a very strong seam and allows an extra tight shirt. Rychlak went out at the Arnold Classic and tried to open with 800+. He didn't have his shirt pulled down low enough and he got crushed with the bar. He then came back for his second lift with the shirt down low and actually lifted a heavier weight than what he had just been crushed with.

I don't want to diss anybody's strength, but when guys are lifting a weight with the shirt that they aren't even capable of lowering under control raw, it cheapens the sport. It took 15 years for the record to go from Ted Arcidi's 705 to Clark's 800 lbs. Now just 4 years later we're already at 1000? It' definitely something more than the lifters getting stronger.

The real world record goes to Mendelson not Clark.

But your above statement could not ring more true, Gene's failed 800 with a shirt (properly on or not) is proof enough that 731 would kill him raw.

 

[TheProject]

Wrong again.....

I WAS a powerlifter, and even after I made the switch to BB, I'm still stronger than most PL's I meet.

But shirts are for bitches. I'll never break 600 lbs on a bench raw, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna do it with a shirt on (plus they make me chafe )

I understand completely, and I still say a shirted bench is not a bench at all. Furthermore watching a guy make a horseshoe out of his spine doesn't impress me either. Benchpress, not benchbendandpress.

Shirted benches are for people who compete.

 

[Sean Scott]

sweeet

 

[Carmen]

stolen from the other elite fitness site.

Bench shirts are cheating: Cheating at what? Last time I looked is that the bench shirt is legal in every federation unless you compete in the IPTA ...
gene is the first person to ever bench a grand in a sanctioned meet. end of story

2 things:

1. that was great and you are right.
2. lumbergs avatar is disturbing me
3. hi dakotah.

 

[Devastation]

2 things:

1. that was great and you are right.
2. lumbergs avatar is disturbing me
3. hi dakotah.

lol, i think that was three, and she's writing you a pm right now

 

[Carmen]

Without a doubt, probably. It's just not a legitimate bench press. It would be like me putting springs in my shoes and jumping 6 feet in the air.

its a legitimate bench press because he followed all the rules of the federation he lifted in and the judges all said it was a good lift.
can't argue with that.

 

[wutangnomo]

LOL!

You powerlifters are just too funny. Going by nothing but technicalities and getting all defensive. Nobody said powerlifters are weak, yet you all get so defensive.

Let's get away from all this "it's in the rules and follows the federation guidelines blah blah blah" stuff for a second.

Point is, a shirted bench is an ASSISTED bench press, so you cannot simply call it a "bench press". It is not a true bench press because it is assisted. It is no different then someone using the smith machine to "bench press". When someone says they can bench a certain amount of weight using the smith machine do you consider that EQUAL to a real freeweight bench press?? Which lift is harder, a smith machine bench press or a true bench press??

It's funny that all you powerlifters cannot admit that you would lift much LESS without that shirt. It's called the truth folks, so why get so defensive about the truth?

 

[Devastation]

LOL!

You powerlifters are just too funny. Going by nothing but technicalities and getting all defensive. Nobody said powerlifters are weak, yet you all get so defensive.

Let's get away from all this "it's in the rules and follows the federation guidelines blah blah blah" stuff for a second.

Point is, a shirted bench is an ASSISTED bench press, so you cannot simply call it a "bench press". It is not a true bench press because it is assisted. It is no different then someone using the smith machine to "bench press". When someone says they can bench a certain amount of weight using the smith machine do you consider that EQUAL to a real freeweight bench press?? Which lift is harder, a smith machine bench press or a true bench press??

It's funny that all you powerlifters cannot admit that you would lift much LESS without that shirt. It's called the truth folks, so why get so defensive about the truth?

how about pointing out the obvious and not realizing this sport is about who lifts the most while adhereing to the rules of the respective pl'ing federation. that's the truth so why attack it?

 

[The Shadow]

this is insane