A Heads Up About UG Labs

[Nelson Montana]

Has anyone noticed how a lab pops up, gets great feedback, then within a few months, you're bound to find people bitching about it? It seems that no one stays straight up for long.

I'm not sure if it's intentional scamming, or just bad business but it always seems to be the case.

This makes me glad I don't go though this anymore.

In the meantime, if you think your source is cool, realize a few things.

#1; A SECURE EMAIL MEANS NOTHING! ANYTHING can be extracted from a hardrive. Even if it's been deleted, it can be recovered. So if you think the Feds are going to go out of their way to bust into someone's operation and suddenly stop because an email address isn't readily assessable on their computer, you're delusional.

#2; Both domestic and international have their risks. International are less likely to have any intervention from local authorities. You do run the risk of getting your stuff confiscated but small amounts are usually ignored. (Well, they keep it. That's the breaks. Let it go). SO DON'T BE GREEDY! Don't try and save money on shipping by ordering BIG orders. And don't go for the "reduced rate" or "bonus vials" by buying so much it makes it look like you might be selling. It isn't worth the risk.

Domestic also has risks because they are within the reach of local authorities, though mailing is more reliable.

#3: Private sources are the smartest bet but they're also anonymous. Some start out good, then sell bunk, take the money and no one can find them.

#4: Soucechecks is a great way to get first hand information of who's out there, but anyone can turn on a dime. You also never know who's giving the information. And it cracks me up when people want to be "safe" with whom they speak -- like a Fed agent can't register, go on the board for a month, rack up posts and be a "good bro."

Maybe I'm being a little paranoid. On the flip side, I think people get a little too spooked when making small personal orders. The gov isn't worried about you taking a few d-bol. It's the guy pulling in an extra 100K without paying taxes that they want to nail to the wall.

At any rate, you can never be too careful. And from what I understand it looks like more and more sources are folding fast and can't be relied on. Stay smart brothers.

Where's Mon Cherie when you need her?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Good reminder Nelson. I say private all the way. Alot of guys go through alot of cloak and dagger shit when ordering, fake I.D. fake name PO boxes, and alot of other funky shit some of these guys do. Just put your name on it and send it to yourself. I said this a million times....IF they want you they WILL get you. Why add name and mail fraud and other shit to the list? If they bust a source and raid his hard drive for customer info, I highly doubt them going after joe schmoo who orders once or twice a year and spends $3-500 an order for his personal use. They want the guys that re-mail, and get very large dollar orders.

 

[LUANG_GO]

Should be a sticky! K for you bro!

 

[thebigoz]

Good advice.

RE: The email thing. The idea of secure email isn't to stop local records being kept. It's to prevent emails being traced back to the originator. Most secure mail sites use the 'remailer network' which essentially makes it impossible to backtrace an email. It is theoretically 'possible' but when you add in encryption, I can assure you that the likelihood is very, very small. I don't care who is trying to track it, encryption is encryption and cannot be broken without brute force, which can potentially take years.

Also, those sorts of sites do not cache any data. Well, the ones I use don't. So no local copies will be kept. They would have to be able to either gain access to your account, or link you to that account in some other form.


I would be more worried about the authorities seeing your posts on EF (I.e. I'm doing cycle 'x'....or....'I just got my hand on some 'x') and using THAT as evidence to help prosecute.

 

[aquatic_glories]

one question, do the things people write in their sig mean anything??

like I am a fictional character lol

 

[shrimp poboy]

Why do people even buy UG i will never know,HG is the same price if not cheaper and usually the guys I know carrying it are the ones who have been around forever.To me it just makes more sense to go with something that comes out of a real pharmacy rather than someones garage.

 

[genetics]

Great post Nelson...

Most ugs are avoidable at best even if it means shelling out the extra $$ for pharm grade stuff from original sources if one has the link to source one's stuff directly. So far, in whatever little cycles i've done, i've always bought pharm grade stuff inspite of having friends and pals who order and have always ordered from ugs.

And for everyone's benefit, you never know which ug is going to be hunted down by the feds next and next thing you see is they've recovered 200 email ids and other incriminating details of the purchaser which is well worth avoiding.

Hellfire labs, guys. Just reminding.

These guys are generally not perturbed by a few individuals popping a few dballs...the fcukers are after those ug boys who avoid paying those 6 figure taxes...

I'm one of those lucky few who has a cousin who's a pharmacist and i just give him my list

 

[eClenbuterol]

Dont use hushmail, safe-mail or that other crap where you think it's safe if they have a warrant it's no longer private. Your best bet is to find a server like in Russia for e-mail or a Country that is unlikely to coroporate.

 

[chefbone]

I agree....sourcecheck is a great value. My "guy" just went private and I feel that much better about it!!!

 

[-SD-]

Or you can just go to an HRT clinic and get 100% legit legally prescribed roids.