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A frustrating story to share and a reply to cozmokramer's qusetion

abrocketsfan

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I've been working out and eating well for about 8 weeks now, and I felt that the 4 pounds i gained was a good pace to be at (2 pounds a month isn't bad). Then, i met this guy yesterday...

Apparently, he eats just 2000 calories a day and told me that he's been working out for 14 weeks and gained some 23 pounds!!!!

He claims he really cuts down on carbs and fat and eats like 160 or so grams of protein. This is whack because I eat like 220-230 grams of protein a day as part of a 50/30/20 c/p/f plan, and I can't believe you can gain weight by eating just 2000 calories a day.

He went on to tell me that he does take creatine, which brings me to my question:

Is his extraordinary gain a result of the creatine? If so, are we just wasting our time with this slow and steady diet plan when people just take creatine and add bulk like crazy?

Personally, I'm 19 and won't be taking that stuff ever, but i still get kinda frustrated seeing this. When I told him I eat natural protein and some protein mixes to get big, he said that was "Old School, from 20 YEARS BACK "

Now to answer what cozmokramer asked...

Sorry, i decided I'd just answer ur question in the same thread. You asked me how much I used to run, and the answer is I used to run everyday, but I'd vary the sequence daily.

Some days, I would just jog for 2 miles, or sometimes I'd do 1 mile jogging and 1.5 miles on an incline ramp (which I strongly recommend because it doesn't get as boring with a buddy and it helps the legs).

My bar of choice was the yogurt-dipped Powerbar. They have good amounds of carbs and protein, and the yogurt dipped means you won't have the sugar from teh chocolate. Also, once I got more disciplined with my plan, I got off the bar and prepared stuff like cottage cheese mixed with grape nuts (actually more nutritious), yogurt blended with strawberiries and a bananas (extremely good if the proportions are mastered), and so forth. Personally, I found these meals to be better tasting , cheaper, more enjoyable to eat and prepare (the bar is boring), and you don't have to worry about mystery sugars they use (glycerine is great way for them to claim that teh sugars in the bar are low cuz the FDA doesn't consider it a sugar even though it is). Anyway, if you want any other good food suggestions, just ask, although those two are great before or after running. For instant energy, I'd eat a fruit. Hope that helps.
 
oh yeah if if he says he cut down on fats and carbs, but yet he only eats 160grams of protein just wtf is he eating. His protien consumption would only be 32% of his 2000 calories, meaning his 2 other things must be roughly equivalent I wouldn't call that cutting down on fats and carbs, unless this guy found a 4rth grouping for food hes BSing you.
 
also many people often mistake the amount of food they actually eat thinking they are eating less than they really are. IT happens easily w/ serving sizes of say 3oz of meat, WTF is that, I'm not really sure how much that is, most people eat well over that. I wouldn't even think of it as a meal unless it was atleast 12oz
 
abrocketsfan said:

Apparently, he eats just 2000 calories a day and told me that he's been working out for 14 weeks and gained some 23 pounds!!!!

Bull Shit. Not even the best steroid stack money will buy could put on 23lb on a 2000 calorie diet. Not too mention you cannot put on LBM with low fat and carbs. I wouldn't worry too much because your friend is a straight up liar
 
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