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A 6pack on sat night when on AS ???

What do you think of having an occassional 6 pack(beer) midcycle?

  • No Way. No How.

    Votes: 71 30.3%

  • Maybe once would be OK

    Votes: 45 19.2%

  • Every few weeks - no probs

    Votes: 68 29.1%

  • I have 6 or more every weekend

    Votes: 50 21.4%
  • Total voters
    234
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I am interested in what everyone thinks about the adverse effects of an occasional 6 pack or equivalent on the weekends while mid cycle. I know the best answer is drink water instead....but I'm being realistic here.

cheers.:D

Hard
 
I'm guilty of sometimes drinking while on A.S. It is definetly more benificial/healthy not to though. Also it depends on what kinda gear your taking. Of course its not as bad if you taking anavar/primo type gear as opposed to A bombs, Dbol, Halotestin etc.
 
Not me, but then I'm such a old married fuck that I don't drink a 6 pack even off AS-LOL.

Might consider having a glass of wine or two with a nice dinner, but other than that- nope. Especially with orals!!

Too worried about my liver as it is.



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Not a sixer, but a couple glasses of wine or maybe a mixed drink or two. Hell, smoke a little weed if ya got it.

I'm not really concerned about the toxicity -- I think that issue is a little overblown. I'm more concerned about the adverse effects that drinking itself has.

Also, maybe I'm misunderstanding, but are you asking if it's OK every weekend? I'd say no to that. Too much of a cumulative effect.
 
People do it, but it detracts from the cycle....

alcohol not only is high in calories (7 cals per gram), but it slows your digestion, which is the last thing you want.

Also, when you are out drinking, you tend to eat like shit (wings, etc.)

I save that for off cycle. recommend you do too.
 
getting a buzz going once in a while is cool in my book(once a week or every two weeks) but getting blasted is another thing, i guess everything is game if its done in moderation
 
mattheskywalker-

Yeah but when I am 7 weeks into a cutting cycle I have to admit chicken wings and beer looks almost as good as the Sweedish Bikini Team.




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For me no alcohol while on cycle, period. If you want to get a little fucked up go with some pain killers instead.
 
I wouldn't drink a six pack while on gear, although I don't think it is going to be that bad for your health unless you are on a 17aa. It will inhibit some gains though, I have done it and seen the results. As for the replies above, never smoke weed while on, I have friends that said it contributed to gyno, and painkillers, while they are a bad idea while not on, most of them are tough on the liver so I would definitely not combine them with AS use. If you want to have a couple of beers, go ahead, but you are not going to get maximum results from your cycle.
 
All about moderation. A few beers on the weekends is not going to hurt. Pounding shots of vodka regularly is another story and I would not do it on or off the juice.
 
I haven't drank alc at all since i've been on, but i've been drinking G like it's my job :D
 
Well I'm not a big drinker. MY damn problem is junk food. Man oh man, I gotta control myself when it comes to eating healthy. I'll never be ripped if I cant control my eating habits. We'll see, with time comes ... hummmm, I guess nothing but more time..!! ;)
 
I would have to say there is nothing positive you can get from drinking on a cycle ...I have a friend/retard who drinks just about every day and goes out acts like ass and then gets into fights and thinks its cool 2 beat up 100 pound men ...he is a extreme case and makes roids look bad ......If you can drink responsible and not be a ass and have control of what you do then ..fine take from your gains and hurt your self and dont get the best out of your cycle ,do your thing... This is the oldest topic I saw 100,000,000 of these posts already and half the people will say "yea bro drink or smoke pot " the other half will say "fuck no dont do nothing"
 
Alcohol is bad in many ways first it give s you empty calories and your body while then use this as it's prefered metabolic feul. It will increase the coversion of test to estrogen so gyno is more likely, it will decrease serum test levels so an increase limp dick will occur. As well as decreased motivation and hangovers when training does not help.
So enjoy the high from the cycle or get some GHB.
 
Man I used to drink a 6 pack on the weekends but I I quit doing it and it shows trust me dont do it...at least not a 6 pack!
 
i quit drinking a couple of years ago and i have never felt better....:p .....for some people i dont think that having a drink once in a great while will be all that bad for ya
 
needleboy said:
mattheskywalker-

Yeah but when I am 7 weeks into a cutting cycle I have to admit chicken wings and beer looks almost as good as the Sweedish Bikini Team.




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I'll drink to that! :beer:
 
Right on! I love it when one of my posts gets things goin - you guys rule.

Guess it's my turn to confess: No drinking ever sunday to thursday and about 4-6 drinks ever 2nd weekend. Aftere readin some of your posts- I think I'll cut this in half during my next cycle.

peace,

Hard,
 
About 10 to 12 pints of guinness per week...

and 1/8 to 1/4 skunk....

along with my sust250/dbol...

I have cut down!;)
 
On Tuesdays I help run a cycle club... by the end of the night I have drunk 4pts of guinness and smoked a joint or three.. I will also have cycled 15-20 miles.. off-road.

Life is for enjoying.. and I am still gaining...
 
To me it is very simple. No drinking or anything else intoxicating equals no socializing. I have tried to be clean at get togethers and such, and while I don't get smashed, I do imbibe a little. It is habit. So I take a valium or 2 and 2 to 3 drinks and feel fine the next day and make up for it with hard training. This is only once a week and can't be that bad and certainly beats staying indoors all week! by the way those drinks are beers (less calories than mixed drinks)

Is this really any hurtful to a cycle?
 
jarabbit said:
So I take a valium or 2 and 2 to 3 drinks and feel fine the next day and make up for it with hard training. This is only once a week and can't be that bad and certainly beats staying indoors all week! /B]
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Valium - there's an idea, I know from experience that 2-3 beer and a coupla v's is just right to unwind. I do seem to remember something about valium being addictive tho......

h.
 
I wouldn't drink a beer to quench my thirst if I was eating a dirt sandwhich after running a marathon in Death Valley in August.

I do frequently get in fights with people who are drunk/high on the weekends, as when someone is intoxicated, they seem to have no understanding of consequence. So they start fights... I end them. That's funner than hell... so I do get involved with alcohol... I just don't consume it.
 
Big Brother Val said:
I wouldn't drink a beer to quench my thirst if I was eating a dirt sandwhich after running a marathon in Death Valley in August.

I do frequently get in fights with people who are drunk/high on the weekends, as when someone is intoxicated, they seem to have no understanding of consequence. So they start fights... I end them. That's funner than hell... so I do get involved with alcohol... I just don't consume it.
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Lighten up, for fuck's sake!!!!

How did I know you were going to say that BBV?

BBV impersonation: "We must bodybuild only.. and take our breakfast-of-champions.. but we must not drink. Drink is the enemy. It makes you weak. We are warriors of the iron and steel. "
 
Im a college kid used to going out 5 nights a week and getting wasted. This summer while im on cycle, i drink a max of one night a week. I know it's not good, but working 40+ hours a week and doing nothing after that but hitting the gym hard, i need a night a week to unleash...
 
Right, the hypocrisy! Alrigth to drop A bombs, D-Bol and whatever else we gobble up or shoot but having a drink or anti sedative is so horrible for mind and body?!?!?!? Life is moderation folks. If you choose to live like a monk fine but don't preach that lifestyle on me. I do believe having a good time hear and there hasn't been outlawed, yet!
 
Gary... good impersonation. You should take it to TV. But I don't just bodybuild... so we can get together and you can work on building the rest of the dialogue.

But I'm sorry if I forgot... I can only post on other drugs if I have a positive outlook on it.

Sorry.

I'll go get wasted right now... then go drive... kill a family on the way home by plowing into their mini-van... then come cheer about the joys of alcohol.

Shit. I truly am an ass....

And to you, sir... I am so very sorry.

Drinking is great.

Good God. So I don't like alcohol. Or pot. And yeah... I like going to parties for one reason... and that's people who are intoxicated like to say things like "You think you're pretty tough, huh?" to me. Why do they say that? I don't know.
I don't need to start the fights with an intoxicated person to make myself look or feel tough. I just know when I go to these places, someone will start one with me. Happens all the time.
That's what I think is great about the other types of drugs. Someone who normally wouldn't look me in the eye, is now challenging me to a physical confrontation. Is that my fault?
No.
Do I like it though?
Yes.

You have to be able to take negative criticism as well.

I don't take insult to what you said. You simply have it wrong.
 
I agree 103.5% With BBV I dont drink or smoke pot ether ...i dont care if some one wants 2 drink and use drugs and be in control of what they do and say ...Its the drunks and pot heads who get all fucked up and act like a ass and talk shit to others .. Like i said before on my above post Half the people here will not drink the other half will Think drinking and smoking pot is cool ...I would just prefer to separate myself from people who have 2 drink and half to smoke and do it irresponsible
 
I think you are better off smoking crack or opium.... Alcohol sucks!
 
GaryWary said:


Lighten up, for fuck's sake!!!!

How did I know you were going to say that BBV?

BBV impersonation: "We must bodybuild only.. and take our breakfast-of-champions.. but we must not drink. Drink is the enemy. It makes you weak. We are warriors of the iron and steel. "
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LOL!! I think bbv could use a few valiums.

peace and tranquility brother,

Hard
 
Big Brother Val said:
Gary... good impersonation. You should take it to TV. But I don't just bodybuild... so we can get together and you can work on building the rest of the dialogue.

But I'm sorry if I forgot... I can only post on other drugs if I have a positive outlook on it.

Sorry.

I'll go get wasted right now... then go drive... kill a family on the way home by plowing into their mini-van... then come cheer about the joys of alcohol.

Shit. I truly am an ass....

And to you, sir... I am so very sorry.

Drinking is great.

Good God. So I don't like alcohol. Or pot. And yeah... I like going to parties for one reason... and that's people who are intoxicated like to say things like "You think you're pretty tough, huh?" to me. Why do they say that? I don't know.
I don't need to start the fights with an intoxicated person to make myself look or feel tough. I just know when I go to these places, someone will start one with me. Happens all the time.
That's what I think is great about the other types of drugs. Someone who normally wouldn't look me in the eye, is now challenging me to a physical confrontation. Is that my fault?
No.
Do I like it though?
Yes.

You have to be able to take negative criticism as well.

I don't take insult to what you said. You simply have it wrong.
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You're a bit 'scary larry' aren't you?
 
big4rt said:
don't do it. if you are on cycle, take it serious like a warrior and dedicate yourself.:p
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TRUE
I like the warrior attitude. You know how every gym has a couple regulars there that are there everyday. They all have cool names... like Beast, Thor, Tiny... well one guy is named Warrior. He wears a head band that he wrote saying Warrior. When he tosses off a couple 120lb dumbbells while shouldering he yells...
"WARRIOR!" Its a trip...

Depending on what your taking. (orals)
I dont think a 2/3 beers every other weekend can hurt.
What ever floats your boat.;)
 
Since 10 beers has about the same ammount of calories that a 180 pound man needs in a whole day, with no nutritional value, Id say it isnt a good idea. I cant even get drunk from beer anymore so I dont have too hard of a time staying away from it.
 
GaryWary said:


Lighten up, for fuck's sake!!!!

How did I know you were going to say that BBV?

BBV impersonation: "We must bodybuild only.. and take our breakfast-of-champions.. but we must not drink. Drink is the enemy. It makes you weak. We are warriors of the iron and steel. "
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LOL @ Gary Wary!

I dont suppose you could spare some of that skunk for BBV, he needs it more than you mate!

They start the fights, I end them! lmfao! WOW! You must be realllly hard!

UglyASS:FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :doublefi:
 
dork said:
Im a college kid used to going out 5 nights a week and getting wasted. This summer while im on cycle, i drink a max of one night a week. I know it's not good, but working 40+ hours a week and doing nothing after that but hitting the gym hard, i need a night a week to unleash...
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im with you man, a college kid as wel and thats a hard ass adjustment to make, the whole cold turkey with alcohol thing. once you cut it down to 1 night a week though its not so bad. i mean fuck im on fina and thats the rougheset shit there is on your liver and kidneys and my piss is still clear. and im still diesel, after all were in college right
keep boozin'
 
No way! 4 weeks beforce cycle and 8 weeks after cycle I still go 100% with training, food + no tobacco or alcohol. I'm even considering to go all white for a year or something and add some serious gains. But in the summer it's not easy :) I'm only 21 so I'm expected to party atleast twice a week. Hehe.
 
:doublefi: That's what I love about that class of people... they all have the same mentality.

Gary, Ugly..... please... stop... you're hurting my feelings... :bawling:
 
Ugly... dont' take it personally. I meant "class" of person, as in the type of person who smokes grass, drinks, etc. is the type of person who defends it. That's all.


"god like self"? No... I wouldn't say I was "god LIKE"...

I AM a God! :D
 
Big Brother Val said:
Ugly... dont' take it personally. I meant "class" of person, as in the type of person who smokes grass, drinks, etc. is the type of person who defends it. That's all.


"god like self"? No... I wouldn't say I was "god LIKE"...

I AM a God! :D
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Just like you defend AS.

Recognise that a few beers even when using steroids is not harmful to gains or to health...

Incidentally, I can only drink 3 beers at most whilst on this cycle anyway... curiously, I get drunk very quickly!!?
 
6 pack, WTF. That doesn't even get me started---I've had about an 18 pack in the last 4 hours--of course I'm a fat bastard LOL
 
Holy shit ! cracked the 1000 mark. I can't believe the mileage I got outta this post. Thanks guys for everyone who posted.


Peace all

Hard
 
dude I lost 5 lbs in one day of drinking like 9 beers. It's not worth all the hard work it takes to gain just for a couple of beers. Not to mention the stress it puts on your body.

peace

db
 
I CHEATED I MUST ADMITTED I HAD 4 BEERS LAST SATURDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its a choice of your own and only depend of you.

If you want to drink do it.
But you have to look at the pro and cons of it.
 
the debate rages on and on...

I don't want 18 or 19inch arms.. therefore, a beer or 3 is not going to harm my training.. a beer or 3 will not harm your gains if you do want 18 or 19inch arms... my training was more harmed by stress of moving house!
 
GaryWary said:
the debate rages on and on...

I don't want 18 or 19inch arms.. therefore, a beer or 3 is not going to harm my training.. a beer or 3 will not harm your gains if you do want 18 or 19inch arms... my training was more harmed by stress of moving house!
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I'd hate to ask but...Why in the hell are you taking AS if you don't want to be bigger(18-19 inch arms)?!? Surely it's possible to have a smaller physique without AS...
 
what size arms do you think those calvin Klein models have, the ones that do the boxer underwear modeling? Or how about Stallone in Rambo II or Rocky III IV? I would say under 16 inches (or there about)and look how good they look. It is because of the hardness, definition, low body fat, symetry etc.... I would say 17 inch arms with no flab and hard , defined are the ideal IMO. Not everyone wants to be 6'4 250 lbs with 19 inch guns and a 400 pound bench, give me 6'2 210 pounds ripped with fighting skills and health and speed and that is my ideal.
 
jarabbit said:
what size arms do you think those calvin Klein models have, the ones that do the boxer underwear modeling? Or how about Stallone in Rambo II or Rocky III IV? I would say under 16 inches (or there about)and look how good they look. It is because of the hardness, definition, low body fat, symetry etc.... I would say 17 inch arms with no flab and hard , defined are the ideal IMO. Not everyone wants to be 6'4 250 lbs with 19 inch guns and a 400 pound bench, give me 6'2 210 pounds ripped with fighting skills and health and speed and that is my ideal.
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If these comments were directed at me then you didn't read my post clearly. 17" arms are attainable WITHOUT AS. Wasn't knocking anyone for wanting to be a smaller sized guy. Just pointing out a simple fact...
 
Drinking might be ok on the body but my roommate is on gear and when he drinks his temper goes through the roof. He turnes into a fu** head last night at a bar he wanted to kick every ones ass. sure his temper is a little off when he does not drink. But I tell ya This guy drinks a sixer every other night and you can totaly see the difference. By the way he must have good genetics because he is still ripped.
 
Daeo said:


I'd hate to ask but...Why in the hell are you taking AS if you don't want to be bigger(18-19 inch arms)?!? Surely it's possible to have a smaller physique without AS...
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Yeah like you waited??

Sorry... I worked out like a bastard and never got beyond 15.5 inch arms naturally... Got to 26inch legs though.. which is not bad.. 6ft.. 44to46 chest...

No guilt at all. No need to change my requirements. I take less than you to get to my goal of 16inches. From 16inches and associated 46chest I will be most content. Stop compute.
 
GaryWary said:


Who the fuck are you?
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Umm..... I'm like the dude who started the thread..... and damn proud of it. Hey I'm easily amused -sue me. Just cuz no one reads Your posts!!


:D :D :D
 
hard said:



Umm..... I'm like the dude who started the thread..... and damn proud of it. Hey I'm easily amused -sue me. Just cuz no one reads Your posts!!


:D :D :D
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I tried to think of a witty retort, but all I can manage is....

BOLLOX.
 
Gary... I understand that our goals are different, and to you, there is nothing wrong with drinkin' on the weekends, smoking pot, or what not. And I understand that. To me, the psychological damage of drinking would be enough to shake me up for a while... I don't beat myself half to death in the gym 6 days a week, and inject testosterone enhanced oil into my body, just to go out on the weekend, get intoxicated, and become psychologically, and physically screwed up enough that a fourth grader could kick my ass.

But that's just me.
 
Big Brother Val said:
Gary... I understand that our goals are different, and to you, there is nothing wrong with drinkin' on the weekends, smoking pot, or what not. And I understand that. To me, the psychological damage of drinking would be enough to shake me up for a while... I don't beat myself half to death in the gym 6 days a week, and inject testosterone enhanced oil into my body, just to go out on the weekend, get intoxicated, and become psychologically, and physically screwed up enough that a fourth grader could kick my ass.

But that's just me.
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I train 3 or 4 times a week... hard. I have gained 25lbs off 250mg sust every 5 days and between 3 and 5 dbol's per day.

I haven't even got my diet sorted properly yet due to being insanely busy...

I smoke to get stoned perhaps 2 nights and one day in a week. I drink about 8 pints of guiness a week on average... I have no reason to worry. I can kick anyone's ass... I therefore don't worry about fourth graders.

My auntie's name is Valerie... nice name.:D
 
You've gotta be the most defensive person I've ever met. You don't worry about getting beat up... but being as defensive as you are, you must be very insecure. After all, insecurity is the biggest cause for defense, is it not?

By the way... I don't worry about getting beat up either...

My issue is saying if I was intoxicated... it would be a lot easier to do. Alcohol just has that effect on people... if it's hard to stand up on your own, because you're trashed... I hate to say it... but it takes away from your ability to throw a good punch. When I was a cop, I saw it a hundred times. It's nothing personal... just saying it's truth.

I'm sure the rules don't apply to you, and when you're drunk, you can not only fight good, but you can drive good, do back-hand-springs, sing the Russian national anthem backwards while juggling flaming chainsaws as you stand on 10 foot stilts...

But most people aren't that gifted, and alcohol actually affects them.

Sounds like you're making good progress with your training. I know what you mean about diet. It took a LOOOOONG time for me to get mine to where it needs to be. I'd like to see a photo.
 
thekidd said:
Drinking might be ok on the body but my roommate is on gear and when he drinks his temper goes through the roof. He turnes into a fu** head last night at a bar he wanted to kick every ones ass. sure his temper is a little off when he does not drink. But I tell ya This guy drinks a sixer every other night and you can totaly see the difference. By the way he must have good genetics because he is still ripped.
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my friend is the same way exept he doesnt just want 2 kick every ones ass he does ....he will just go up to some one and kick there ass for no reason when he drinks ....last week he dislocated he roommates knee ...i guess he ripped the tendons in his knee and if he does not get surgery he will never be able to use the leg again unless he has surgery and the dude has no insurance....
 
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I'm sure the rules don't apply to you, and when you're drunk, you can not only fight good, but you can drive good, do back-hand-springs, sing the Russian national anthem backwards while juggling flaming chainsaws as you stand on 10 foot stilts. [/QUOTE]lol
 
Alcohol is a depressant which acts on the control centers of the brain to depress them.

A common picture of acute intoxication is of:

Confusion
Disorientation
Unsteady gait
Possible hallucinations
A chronic drinker may experience more severe side effects or even death. One of the side effects is:

Korsakoff's Psychosis:
Confusion, Hallucinations, Development of various kinds of paralyses, Development of gaps in memory in which the individual will fill in by telling fantastic experiences in a most plausible way, He may also experience mental illnesses, He may also develop organic diseases - one being the affliction to the liver.

Two out of 3 murders, 1 of 3 rapes, 1 out of 3 suicides, 2 out of 5 assaults, and 3 out of 5 cases of child abuse are connected to the use of alcohol. One out of 2 deaths by fire and drowning are alcohol related, as are 2 out of 5 home accidents. 25,000 American's die in alcohol related crashes every year, or 1 out of 2 fatalities.

One out of 2 in-patients in our city hospitals are there because of an alcohol related problem and 40,000 young adults are disfigured by alcohol related car accidents each year.

"If alcohol would have been invented today, you would need a prescription to obtain it or perhaps it would be outlawed completely," Teen challenge of Southern California.


Naaaahhhhhhh........ doesn't affect people at all.
 
Val: I am not defensive.. nor insecure.. just a joker who occassionally get's fun out of gently winding people up. Especially those that flame me or don't listen to my opinion...

Just putting my case forward for careful consumption of alcohol whether on steroids or not. No need to stop using alcohol altogether.

I totally agree with your last thread regarding the classification or otherwise of alcohol - if it had never been a part of our lives.. it would be classified a class A drug for sure.
 
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I'm sure the rules don't apply to you, and when you're drunk, you can not only fight good, but you can drive good, do back-hand-springs, sing the Russian national anthem backwards while juggling flaming chainsaws as you stand on 10 foot stilts.
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How did you know I do all that?
 
Gary... I'm sorry if I came off as not listening to your side of things. I hear what you are saying. In some studies, alcohol (consumed moderately) can be beneficial to health. My problem, is intoxication, and the "big man" attitude people get while drunk, and the amount of violence and death that intoxicated people apply each year.

So it's sort of like revenge, I guess. Not that it's a legitimate backup for beating someone senseless.

I think it's fun to show them the drugs I take are more beneficial than the drugs they take.

When someone can post stats like those above, about the incredible amount of death and pain that steroids cause each year... then I'll start defending steroids... until then, I just take steroid bashing as ignorance.

Nice discussion.
 
I'm sure the rules don't apply to you, and when you're drunk, you can not only fight good, but you can drive good, do back-hand-springs, sing the Russian national anthem backwards while juggling flaming chainsaws as you stand on 10 foot stilts.
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Gary... that was from my post on PAGE 2 of this thread...

How did I know you did all that? I saw you on BBC2, was it?

Show off.
 
I know the dangers of drink.. but I don't class myself as being at risk of the dangers.. my weekly consumption of alcohol is some peoples daily consumption or bi-daily consumption... it's all relative...

I used to live in the roughest part of south London.. people drink strong lager and cider 24/7 on the benches outside where I used to live... alcoholism and alcoholics pain/upset me. I think alcohol is the worst drug. But again, to re-iterate - I am not worried about my consumption.

What a big discussion.
 
I'm with Big Brother Val previous post on the fight part. I work as a bouncer in a large club and there is nothing more pathetic then a drunken big ass juicehead being dragged or carried out of the club after starting a fight. You wind up looking very stupid.
Genarr3
 
hard said:
I am interested in what everyone thinks about the adverse effects of an occasional 6 pack or equivalent on the weekends while mid cycle. I know the best answer is drink water instead....but I'm being realistic here.

cheers.:D

Hard
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its a wast bro.you cant even begin to imagine how much beer fucks up every thing.
 
I'm Polish, my liver is required to filter alcohol on occasion by law. I see no problem with an occasional night out. Not every weekend, though.
 
Even if i have 1 bloody marry with my sunday morning tbone
at the local i notice it on monday , so me never .
Brad.
 
see i have been doing test cycle for a long ass time, and the only night i can drink is sat night due to college classes and workingat at a bar so, evey sat night i get really drunk to almost blacked out and i have no problems, and my cycles work just fine. i mean come on a 6 pack shit go for a 30 of keystone... i did
 
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