8 week bulk, then straight onto a 4 week cut?

[notoriousjatt]

Whats up yall,

I was thinking about just concentrate on bulking for 8 weeks;Eating clean and get enough quality calories and then after that I was thinking to move straight onto a 4 week. This sounds efficient in theory but attempting it is sneaky.
So for me bulking I would have to eat 2600 cals a day, and then say after the 8 weeks is over If I was to drop my cals down to 2000 cals and up my cardio would that put my muscles in risk because of the 600 calorie deficit over night? I really wouldnt mind doing this but im in fear of losing my newly acquired muscles from that 8 week bulk. Thanks


Has anyone tried this? Comments welcome

 

[psilo]

I cut at around 2500 calories, and I only weigh around 190. I have a fast metabolism, but I don't think there's any way 2600 is enough calories to bulk. I would say more like 3000-4000 if you actually want to gain some muscle....

 

[SlavikHavik]

I cut at around 2500 calories, and I only weigh around 190. I have a fast metabolism, but I don't think there's any way 2600 is enough calories to bulk. I would say more like 3000-4000 if you actually want to gain some muscle....

+1.....

x100

 

[SlavikHavik]

I cut at around 2500 calories, and I only weigh around 190. I have a fast metabolism, but I don't think there's any way 2600 is enough calories to bulk. I would say more like 3000-4000 if you actually want to gain some muscle....

Yeah man, 2500 is cutting cals for most peeps, unless your really small.
In which case, maybe more than an 8 week bulk would be a good idea.

anyway bro, give'r shit. Get huge, dont miss a day, and youll be a tank

 

[Dial_tone]

Rather than do separate bulk/cut cycles combine them into one. Here is how IFBB Pro Dave Henry does it: (not necessarily on cycle)

Weeks 1 - 4: Gain
Weeks 5: Hardening
Weeks 6 - 8: Gain
Weeks 9 - 10: Hardening
Weeks 11 -1 2: Gain
Weeks: 13 -15: Hardening


He's gained 60 lbs since he turned pro as a middleweight.


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[notoriousjatt]

Hey yall,

Im new to this forum ill just introduce myself (im 5'10, 148 lbs - what you would call a fat skinny person) I have goen from 220 lbs to 135(but still had a gut) within the last 2 years (im 5'10 and damn was I dumb) now im 148 lbs trying to gain muscle but right now my bodyfat is at 16% (had it checked with callipers)...ouch. I did a lot of stupid stuff at first when i first started working out (like not eating) but now iv learned what I need to do and that is eat clean. Anyway I want to attempt at another bulking phase. Im going to eat clean and all but right now I was cutting and realised how hopeless this was...im pretty much just wasting away to nothing. I have uncontrollable binges then feel awful after and now I have realised I need to put on some lean mass. Anyway im going to bulk up but what I wanted to know was: is it really necessary to eat at maintainance calories for 1-2 weeks or can I just go straight into my cutting phase after that? Then after my 4 week cut I wanted to go back into bulking and do that over and over. However I will take a week off around that time, but i really dont want to take one now. Some advice?

 

[Lee]

if your 148 pounds with 16% bodyfat, thats 24 pounds of fat. do u have a small frame? thin bones? how big are your ankles and wrist? how big is your neck? give some more info and ill help ya out.

 

[notoriousjatt]

if your 148 pounds with 16% bodyfat, thats 24 pounds of fat. do u have a small frame? thin bones? how big are your ankles and wrist? how big is your neck? give some more info and ill help ya out.

Hey whats crackin. My wristes and ankles are pretty skinny man...I don't have anything to measure with nearby but they are skinny. Im going to bulk up but do a clean bulk starting next week beacuse this is my week off from the gym. Neck is ...i dunno but when I buy dress shirts they always measure my neck so I usually buy 15 1/2 size dress shirts if that will help?

 

[Lee]

hmm, so small frame? but you used to be hefty... you it would be best if u worked out 4 days a week. try doing a clean bulk, for your weight, about 2800 cals a day. something like 40/40/20 (40% protein/40% clean carbs/20% fat)

no junk food, no hamburger helper. carbs from all natural sources. supplementation is major too. protein shakes, creatine, fish body oils, multi vitamin. all key to packing on mass. if you would like more in depth lemme know.

 

[JKurz1]

hmm, so small frame? but you used to be hefty... you it would be best if u worked out 4 days a week. try doing a clean bulk, for your weight, about 2800 cals a day. something like 40/40/20 (40% protein/40% clean carbs/20% fat)

no junk food, no hamburger helper. carbs from all natural sources. supplementation is major too. protein shakes, creatine, fish body oils, multi vitamin. all key to packing on mass. if you would like more in depth lemme know.

DUUUUUUDDEEEEEEEE...hamburger helper RULES!!! mmmmmmm

 

[notoriousjatt]

oh pimpin! Whats wrong with hamburger helper its all meat and pasta isnt it? Pasta is a good carb right, or what I think it was whole wheat pasta. Alrite like I said im 5'10, 148 lbs really really wanna get up to like 165 of mostly muscle and then cut down I guess here is my workout plan can you help me fine tune it bro? i havent actually started it yet right now its just chiller, eating maintainance calories then next week I will start bulking.

Day 1: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps

Flat Dumbell Bench Press: 4x 6-8 reps
Shoulder Press: 4x 6-8 reps
Incline Barbell Bench Press: 4x 6-8 reps
Dips: 3 x 6-8
Military Press in Rack : 2 x 6-8 reps

Bent Over Dumbbell Rear Delt Raise With Head On Bench -does rear delts 4x8


Day 2: Lower Body

Squats: 5 x 6-8 reps
Leg Press 5x 6-8
Standing Calve Raises: 4x10 reps
hamstring curls, 3 sets of 8-10
leg extensions 3 sets of 8 to 10



Day 3: Back, Biceps

Bent Over Rows: 4x6-8 reps
Chin ups: 4x6-8 reps
Barbell Rows: 4x6-8 reps
Shrugs: : 3x 10 reps
Rowing Machine 4x 6-8 reps
Lat Pulldown 3x6-8 reps
Barbell Curls : 3 x 6-8 reps
Hammer Curls : 2 x 6-8 reps


Day 4: Abs and Lower Back
Weighted Crunches 4x 10 reps
Russian Twists 3x 10
oblique excercise
Stiff Leg Deadlifts 2 x 6-8 reps
Good mornings - 2 x 10
Deadlifts: 4x6-8 reps


Day 5 - Rest

Then Repeat


Hows that?

 

[notoriousjatt]

But hte only thing is that right now Im 148 lbs and pretty flabby . I have 15 lbs of fat thats really bothering me, butwhatever, just put htat aside right now...time to build more muscle!