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djeclipse said:
It really depends on what activities you do throughout the day. How many calories you're burning.

But on a side note 1.5g/bw is too much protein if you ask me. Your body can't process that much protein so the rest is just a waste.

lol...know what made me start growing again? 2+ grams per pound of bodyweight (not LBM) and moderate good fats, with relatively low carbs.

Wulfgar consumes up to 3 grams per pound of bodyweight (800 grams at 270 lbs.) at times. He'll eat about 60 grams every hour.

1.5 grams /lb is too much if you're a typical american couch potato who never sees the inside of a gym and sits behind a desk all day.

How many PL'ers and BB'ers do you know - who ACTUALLY LOOK like PL'ers and BB'ers - who eat like normal people and still look like BB'ers and PL'ers?

Would be nice though huh? To be 250 lbs. at 12% or less bodyfat and eat the normal 2000-2500 calorie diet as every other 160 lb. guy out there. That'd save me a ton of money on food!!!
 
ceo said:
lol...know what made me start growing again? 2+ grams per pound of bodyweight (not LBM) and moderate good fats, with relatively low carbs.

Wulfgar consumes up to 3 grams per pound of bodyweight (800 grams at 270 lbs.) at times. He'll eat about 60 grams every hour.

1.5 grams /lb is too much if you're a typical american couch potato who never sees the inside of a gym and sits behind a desk all day.

How many PL'ers and BB'ers do you know - who ACTUALLY LOOK like PL'ers and BB'ers - who eat like normal people and still look like BB'ers and PL'ers?

Would be nice though huh? To be 250 lbs. at 12% or less bodyfat and eat the normal 2000-2500 calorie diet as every other 160 lb. guy out there. That'd save me a ton of money on food!!!

So the only thing you changed was more protein? Interesting.
 
djeclipse said:
So the only thing you changed was more protein? Interesting.

no. I started doing DC training. Actually, the key for me is higher fat (and protein) intake. I made the mistake of letting something a gym buddy of mine said get into my head. He said I looked like I got bigger and I told him I changed my training and diet. Told him about high protein, moderate fat lower carbs and I gained like 10-12 lbs in 12 weeks. Then said that I hadn't gained any more since then (it had only been another 3-4 weeks at that point)...he said I needed more carbs, OMG, my body is just lacking fuel, blah blah...

So, I made the mistake of increasing my carbs, and since I don't eat fats with carbs, I consequently lowered my fat intake. Now, it's been about 4 months since I've gained anything. :( I just started going back to what made me gain.

So, no, not just protein, but protein is what you need to build muscle. Like I said, we (PL'ers and BB'ers) have MUCH greater caloric needs than ordinary people. I've never known any of us that can become 250+ lb. monsters on a 2000-2500 calorie normal person's diet. I suppose there are some genetic freaks out there that would grow to 250lbs. drinking water and eating bread though.

Diet is a very individualized thing. There are generalities that everyone can follow, but for dialing it in after you reach a certain level and are trying to push beyond, you gotta tailor it to the individual.
 
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