5 weeks into PCT still not growing

[Syringe11]

Im about 5 weeks into my PCT (10 week cycle 500/wsust,500/wdeca(8 week),dbol) I ran 1k ui/eod HCG for the first 3 weeks with nolva and now im just running 50mg clomid till my boys come back....this isnt my first cycle but it is my first pct and im starting to wonder how long this is gonna take my balls are like tiny grapes

Also im still eating alot but I seriously miss cardio would there be anything wrong with starting cardio while doing pct I seriously dont wanna fuck up my gains but if it wont hurt i'd like to bring it back.


What kind of timeframe should I be looking at before my boys starting growing again

 

[Mac173]

I would hit up some more HCG.
3wks @1000iu eod should have done the trick though.

 

[ProtienFiend]

Cardio wouldn't hurt.... it'd help if anything.... especially if its HIIT (high intensity).

 

[pitbullrocco]

What kind of timeframe should I be looking at before my boys starting growing again

i wouldn't worry until they are still grapes after 1-2 months post-pct completion.

 

[odoyal rulez]

wow..thats a lot of HCG to not have the balls brought back

 

[littleb]

wow..thats a lot of HCG to not have the balls brought back

thats what i was thinking, I have not heard of bunk hcg, so was it old hcg that you constitued and left for a long time?
and after mixed you kept in the fridge?
did you go im or subq with it? both work the same for me, but try the oppisite of what you did b4.. keep us posted..

 

[tin2]

Are you counting the 3 weeks of hcg as ur 5weeks cause if u are its only been 2 real weeks of pct.. I should start noticing in another week or so..

 

[Nelson Montana]

That's an absolutly pointless amount of HCG. It will only slow recovery by desensitizing the ledig cells. That's like taking 10 aspirin to reduce a fever when 2 will work as well as it's going to work.

As for Clomid...ugh...for now, I'lll just say you may be a non responder. Is your ejaculate increased or decreased form the Clomid? That's the tell-tale sign.


I would recommend avoiding cardio, getting more rest, use some supps and maybe try some low dose a-dex.

Good luck and feel better.

 

[tin2]

That's an absolutly pointless amount of HCG. It will only slow recovery by desensitizing the ledig cells. That's like taking 10 aspirin to reduce a fever when 2 will work as well as it's going to work.

As for Clomid...ugh...for now, I'lll just say you may be a non responder. Is your ejaculate increased or decreased form the Clomid? That's the tell-tale sign.


I would recommend avoiding cardio, getting more rest, use some supps and maybe try some low dose a-dex.

Good luck and feel better.

He was taking Nolvadex along with the HCG, that blocks the desensitizing of the ledig cells...
Anthoney Roberts:
"Unfortunately, yet another process, the downregulation of the Leydig Cell LH receptor itself, seems to also play a role in high dose HCG testicular desensitization. This is also done by HCG actually blocking the conversion of 17 alpha-hydroxyprogesterone (17 OHP) to testosterone (24). Nolvadex actually stops this blocking-action of HCG from taking place (25). Most likely, because of Nolvadex’s direct antiestrogenic effect and LH-upregulating effect on the Pituitary, suppression of gonadotropins via HCG is (25) almost totally stopped with concurrent administration of Nolvadex."

Also Aromisin would be much better then a-dex because both nolva and a-dex have rebound effects, Aromasin (Exemestane) is a steroidal suicide aromatase inhibitor, which means that it lowers estrogen production in the body by attaching to the aromatase enzyme, and permanently deactivating it.

 

[Mac173]

He was taking Nolvadex along with the HCG, that blocks the desensitizing of the ledig cells...
Anthoney Roberts:
"Unfortunately, yet another process, the downregulation of the Leydig Cell LH receptor itself, seems to also play a role in high dose HCG testicular desensitization. This is also done by HCG actually blocking the conversion of 17 alpha-hydroxyprogesterone (17 OHP) to testosterone (24). Nolvadex actually stops this blocking-action of HCG from taking place (25). Most likely, because of Nolvadex’s direct antiestrogenic effect and LH-upregulating effect on the Pituitary, suppression of gonadotropins via HCG is (25) almost totally stopped with concurrent administration of Nolvadex."

Also Aromisin would be much better then a-dex because both nolva and a-dex have rebound effects, Aromasin (Exemestane) is a steroidal suicide aromatase inhibitor, which means that it lowers estrogen production in the body by attaching to the aromatase enzyme, and permanently deactivating it.

Many people take nolv. w/ their HCG w/o problems.