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4 WEEKS OUT - Some more updated pics..

SAF

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I snapped these today. I'll post a few because I need to get back to posing practice. I've given up everything, including going out, for the next 4 weeks because I'm too close at this point to mess up now. I'm feeling flat and soft, and it should be clear from these photos, but I'm definitely losing any last traces of fat and water because when you compare these photos with the previous ones, you should see differences.

Looking forward to the show... :D

http://members.roadfly.com/saf/week4-a.jpg

http://members.roadfly.com/saf/week4-b.jpg

http://members.roadfly.com/saf/week4-c.jpg

http://members.roadfly.com/saf/week4-d.jpg
 
Damn you're looking good bro. Everytime you post pics i'm amazed, good luck but i don't think you'll need it...
 
Fuuuuuuck SAF, your are looking awesome and massive, best of luck in your contest I know you'll do great! By the way is it just me or am I the only one that has never seen veins like that popping out of ABS before. ;)

What are you on at the moment?
 
How about a merry little: FUCK YOU!;) Obviously kidding bro. Damn man, you look ridiculous, like a fucking cartoon character. It's hard to believe you only weigh 170.

I did notice the veins in your abs. The rest of you looks like an anatomy chart.

Have you changed your cycle at all as you have gotten closer?

Best of luck to you.
 
Damn bro.. If there was a body to put with the words CHIZLED and SWOLEN, bro you fit it. That is what I am working for. Way to go man. That is a lot of HARD work and dedication. My hat is off to you man. Good luck with your competitions. BTW, can I ask what supplements you are on at the time of the pics?
 
size cuts look great. waist at bottom may be picture appears big and some cable twist should help with lower obliques and thats being very critical. you look lean, thin skin, nice size and fullness and will do well and as i know it can be tyhe camara.
 
WannaImpress said:
Fuuuuuuck SAF, your are looking awesome and massive, best of luck in your contest I know you'll do great! By the way is it just me or am I the only one that has never seen veins like that popping out of ABS before. ;)

What are you on at the moment?

Those veins are nothing. You should see my mid-section when I wake up at night to go to the rest room. Veins are everywhere at that time.

Now I must admit that I cracked last weekend. I had some buttered bread and a few tablespoons of Peanut butter (YUM!) Fuck it man!, I couldn't take it, but it doesn't seem to have made much difference.

No more of that shit. I found an easier way to satisfy my cravings: Smoothies! Some ice cubes and Strawberry Isopure with some water! Good shit! Taset even better with 1 small banana, but I'm not using them at the moment.

My cycle hasn't changed. Tren, Winny, and Suspension + Arimidex.

SAF
 
flexed1 said:
size cuts look great. waist at bottom may be picture appears big and some cable twist should help with lower obliques and thats being very critical. you look lean, thin skin, nice size and fullness and will do well and as i know it can be tyhe camara.

My lower waist, my sides (love handles) as I DONT like to call them, are very muscular, same with my lower middle back. At first I thought it was fat because most people tend to hold fat and water in that area, but after looking at pics of pros, many of them have the same condition. It's not fat, it's not water, it's just muscle, and although I would rather my upper body taper evenly into my lower body, I have to live with my waist the way it is.

SAF
 
SAF said:

No more of that shit. I found an easier way to satisfy my cravings: Smoothies! Some ice cubes and Strawberry Isopure with some water! Good shit! Taset even better with 1 small banana, but I'm not using them at the moment.
SAF

Thats exactly what I do for cravings in the middle of the night, can't beat it the 50 grams of protein that Isopure offers to. The whole thing to it is the ice cubes, hmmmmmmm craving one right now! :D

SAF said:

My cycle hasn't changed. Tren, Winny, and Suspension + Arimidex.

What are your doses?
 
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some day we will ahve to meet my waist is no bigger off seasson than 29 and in contest 26. my lower back is very cut and tight. i have seeen that on many in fact rich gaspari comes to mind. it was by no means a knock as i thin k yhou have 1st
 
Looking nice SAF. I think you have first wrapped up and i havent even seen the comp.


Can you explain the intensity on your cardio? heart rate?
 
Fantastic work SAF...what's your cycle look like?
 
Awesome work bro. You will do very well at the show. Don't worry about that one slip in your diet, it happens! But at least you found a good way to get rid of the cravings (the smoothies!). You have it locked down.

And on another note... everything keeps asking cycle this, and cycle that. I know it's a part of the process, but let's ask the bro how long he has been working out, how many grueling gym sessions, how many meals, etc. There is more to it than the drugs. He has definitly put in the hours, and it shows big time.

Best of luck to you saf, your hard work is a great testiment to how rewarding bodybuilding can truly be.
 
saf bro you look so much drier and cut in these pictures than in the other ones. the competition will be slobbing your dong.

a little insight please into your world of pre-contest cardio?
 
Simply awesome! Are your carbs down to almost zero these days, as compared to a max of 50 the last time you mentioned? How about your strength, did they stay pretty much the same?
 
Looking nice SAF. I think you have first wrapped up and i havent even seen the comp.


Can you explain the intensity on your cardio? heart rate?
 
I'll try to answer everyones questions. I'm not greedy when it comes to sharing information, but keep in mind that what works for me may not neccessarily work for the next guy; just go by what works for you and how it makes you look because that's what I'm learned to do over the years.

WannaImpress
Current doses are the following: Suspension (400mg/week). I use this to maintain as much muscle as possible that I earned during my bulking phase. Arimidex (.5mg/day) You know what this is for. Tren (75mg/day) Mostly for hardness and strength, I beleive that Tren is the best alternative to test, if you dread all the common side-effects associated with test, such as acne, oily skin, etc. Winny Zambon (100mg/day) For cuts and vascualrity, nothing compares to this stuff.


Golfer18
I started doing cardio when I was about 7 weeks out. I try to go every morning at 6AM, which for the most part I do, except on the weekends, I go when I wake up :D. I do 1hour on the cross trainer at level 7, a low intensity, which adjusts my HR to about 125. I'll burn just over 800 calories in 1 hour. For my pre-cardio and pre-workout supplements, I take 2 TSPNS of glutamine, 3 hydroxycuts or 2 MD6, 3 BCAA and 3 FFAA, and some Yohimbine. These are all consumed in order to minimize any catabolic effects during either workout, but mostly for the cardio workout of course, which is where you risk burning muscle. Cardio is always done on an empty stomach.

RipD2DBone
My off season weight is something that I have never recorded because this is my first comp season :D For this contest I plan to be a middle weight.

shreddedmass
When I jumped into cardio at 7 weeks out, I dropped my carbs to 50g/day for 2 weeks straight. Cardio was performed in the AM for 1 hour on an empty stomach. After 2 weeks of this routine my body definitely changed. My waist got smaller, and my lower back got thinner, but my overall body weight remained unchanged, which leads me to beleive that I managed to gain some muscle while losing fat; a very ideal situation during a competiton diet, nonetheless.

powerhouse7
Probably middle weight. Im 171 at the moment.

gilly6993
I answered this question above :D

trial0r
I answered this question above too, I believe to Golfer18.

ahthong
I've actually increased my carbs to about 100g/day at the moment. Nobody can sustain 50g/day for a long period of time, and there is no reason to go that low. I was getting really bad headaches (I still do) and my cravings were really getting to me. I was essentially walking around like a zomby at 50g/day, no strength at all. Now that I've increased to 100g/day I feel much better, much happier too. I've been taking 5HTP to increase my Seratonin levels, which must be low because I always felt like shit at such a low carb intake. My carbs right now come from oatmeal and brown rice, and no carbs after 1-2PM.

And to everyone else, thank you for the compliments and motivation. I really needed it, especially right now, when all I can think about it food. But at this point, since the show is so damn near, there's no reason to fuck it up. Yeah, I still get stupid little cravings, but everytime I get one I think about the show and how it's so important not to give in because the guy standing next to me might be someone who has been dieting for 12-16 weeks or something.

Ok, I gotta run to the gym for cardio, catcha ya'll later :D

SAF
 
Bro you are looking fantastic. You should do very well. I just qualified for national competiton on a simailar cycle except for the susp. and that was because i couldnt find it at the time. How long are you gonna run each of the three? I did fina 12 weeks (pushing it i know) winny 8 weeks. I dont get gyno easily therefore i did not use Arimidex. Are there any other benefits to it other than that as far as contest prep is concerned?
 
Looking Pretty damn good bro!!! Striated triceps huh? Thats pretty freaky :D What show are you doing?
 
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NICE....Great improvement from the last pics. And I thought you couldn't get much better...I was wrong.

Bro...How many calories have you been consuming?

What are you precontest plans....Carb loading? Depletion workouts? Water intake?

If and when you carb load to fill your muscles do you think you will put on any weight or do you think it will be offset by the water loss?

You and a few other guys on the board are actually motivating me to compete one day....GOOD LUCK BRO!!!
 
SAF im doing the same shit bro, minus the BCAA and FFAA. I usually speed walk for around 25 minutes. I started out with very high intensity and im lowering the intensity and extending the sessions as i go. Im gonna start 25 on the treadmill and 25 on the cross trainer. I also do mine on an empty stomach.


Good luck on that contest and keep it up.
 
you have one of the most massive 171 pound physiques around
great work!


can we get a back shot;) ?? please

your spinal erectors look thick which suggest you do have a back don't hide it!:)


also one area of critism your hamstrings need more mass and seperation to offsett your quads, and glutes

how about stiff legged deads? instead of ham srting curls....or do both

your calves are great

great work your going to do well:)
 
OMEGA
Here are a few back shots from last night. It's looking pretty thick :D And yes, I started doing stiff-legged deadlifts about 3 weeks ago. I've been training my hamstrings as hard as possible because I know they can use some improvement.

http://members.roadfly.com/saf/week4-e.jpg

http://members.roadfly.com/saf/week4-f.jpg

rippazoid
The Arimidex is used mostly to avoid any retention produced from the fast-acting Suspension. Even though my carbs are low and water retention should not be a big problem right now, I still want to be on the safe side. To the best of my knowledge, I've been running the Tren, Winny, and Suspension all together from 7 weeks out.

argent
The show is in New York City, Bev Francis Atlantic States on June 8th.

strong island
Hey man, my friends have been trying to get me to compete for the last 5 years, and only now did I listen. Overall, this has been a cool new experience, well, at least the preparation for the show has been interesting. I'm sure things only get better come the day of the show. I'm not sure how many calories I am taking in, but my carb intake is around 100g/day, protein is over 400g/day, and fats from FlaxSeed oil is about 40g/day. As far as precontest plans are concerned, I will most likely deplete and load up during the last week before the show. I'll probably use an OTC diuretic to strip any last traces of water off me a few days out. Carb-loading, from what I have read, doesn't put on too much weight because you only load up a few days before the show, and yes, most of the weight added will probably be offset and most likely overtaken from the diuretic. Some people drop like 10lbs from a water pill.

Quadsweep
Hey man, thanks for the compliment, and that means a lot coming from someone like you. I sent you a PM regarding depletion and loading during the last week before the show, but you never replied. Do you think you can offer some advice, or perhaps provide me with a routine that you have used in the past? I would appreciate it very much because I dont want to screw things up at this point by *overflowing* with too many carbs. Thanks man. Shoot me an email if you want: [email protected]

SAF
 
Great job bro. Sorry to get off topic but what kinda of camera is that? I've been thinking about getting one and your pics seem much more detailed than some I've seen
 
Delinquent said:
Great job bro. Sorry to get off topic but what kinda of camera is that? I've been thinking about getting one and your pics seem much more detailed than some I've seen

The camera I use is the Canon Powershot S-10. It's only 2.1MegaPixels, but it takes great pics. It might be difficult to find because I purchased it over a year ago. Try Cnet.com to find any Internet dealers that still carry the camera. Oh yeah, the charger kit is separate and cost around $100, the camera cost me $325, but it's probably cheaper now.

SAF
 
SAF,
You look GREAT! It is good to see that your cravings are under control and your head is one straight again. Stay strong, don't panic, and you will be rewarded. Good Job!

Tombstone
 
nice

you look amazing man. the striations on your shoulders look great. one really impressive thing I noticed was your obliques. nice friggin' veins too!

--baryon
 
Thanks for all the replies, I just hope everything works to my advantage on stage. I've been practicing my posing. Between dieting, training, posing, and working, this preparation really takes a lot of time. I can understand why most pros dont have full time jobs.

SAF
 
Xtreme2001 said:
You look great bud, good luck in the competition!

Stupid question, but where do you work?

You mean what do I do? I work as a Software Analyst for a big consulting agency.

SAF
 
Seems like this could help a lot of people!

Sorry bro! You sent that the week I moved! Okay here is what I do.
Sun thru Wed night I carb deplete hard I mean almost Zero except for Vegetables. Protin stays high and so does fat intake. (flax oil, Red meat, Eggs, Ect... Then Wed. Night I do a huge carb meal. All complex except for some fruit. 1-1/2 cups oatmeal, 16oz. sweet potato, 2 banannas. The next day I eat 75 grams of carb for six meals while eating about 6-8 oz. beef each meal. Then I am done loading. Friday I go all beef (sirloin) and grapefruit. I also start my diuretics then. (dyazide) 1 am, 1 pm, 1 Saturday morning. You can not load carbs to any great degree once you take your diuretics. (Dan Duchaine) I eat beef and grapefruit on saturday as well. I drink a gallon on friday and a quart on saturday. 45 minutes befor I go on stage I eat a King Sized Snickers. (brings out the Veins! I take a 99mg potassium (will not hurt you even though Dyazide is potassium sparing)every two hours friday and saturday. and I also supplement Magnesium and
Calcium. I do not cut out sodium,I cut back but not out. I think that is why many guys go flat and lose vascularity. I think the key is not to make any big last minute changes.


I hope this helps!

Peace, Quadsweep
 
dude, just when i thought u couldn't get any better, u proved me wrong!!


what happened to your hair?:(
 
Re: Seems like this could help a lot of people!

Quadsweep said:
Sorry bro! You sent that the week I moved! Okay here is what I do.
Sun thru Wed night I carb deplete hard I mean almost Zero except for Vegetables. Protin stays high and so does fat intake. (flax oil, Red meat, Eggs, Ect... Then Wed. Night I do a huge carb meal. All complex except for some fruit. 1-1/2 cups oatmeal, 16oz. sweet potato, 2 banannas. The next day I eat 75 grams of carb for six meals while eating about 6-8 oz. beef each meal. Then I am done loading. Friday I go all beef (sirloin) and grapefruit. I also start my diuretics then. (dyazide) 1 am, 1 pm, 1 Saturday morning. You can not load carbs to any great degree once you take your diuretics. (Dan Duchaine) I eat beef and grapefruit on saturday as well. I drink a gallon on friday and a quart on saturday. 45 minutes befor I go on stage I eat a King Sized Snickers. (brings out the Veins! I take a 99mg potassium (will not hurt you even though Dyazide is potassium sparing)every two hours friday and saturday. and I also supplement Magnesium and
Calcium. I do not cut out sodium,I cut back but not out. I think that is why many guys go flat and lose vascularity. I think the key is not to make any big last minute changes.


I hope this helps!

Peace, Quadsweep

I've heard of guys eating a salty and greasy breakfast the morning of the show, essentially consisting of eggs, bacon, pancakes, syrup, etc. Can you explain the reasoning behind this?

Also, at about 4 weeks out, what does your diet look like? I'm basically eating baked chicken, baked fish filets, tuna in water, steamed carrots and brocolli, and 98% fat free ground sirlion throughout the day. I take flax seed in the AM and PM, around 21g per dose. I'm also drinking zero-carb Isopure shakes, about twice per day at 75g of protein per serving, and all I drink is water. Does this make sense at this stage? I dont see why it wouldn't, but the only problem is that I always feel bloated after each meal and I cant understand why. I eat about 6-7 meals per day, and each meal is relatively small, not big at all. But maybe all the water that I'm drinking makes me feel bloated, who the hell knows.

Thanks again bro.

SAF
 
potential tip for vasularity, and loss of adipidose water under your skin

heard this the other day from a competitior in person.....

about 1 hour or so maybe more drink shots of vinegar before you hit the stage.....it suppost to suck the water out from you skin


????????/ does this hold for any of you guys?????
 
rnch said:
dude, just when i thought u couldn't get any better, u proved me wrong!!


what happened to your hair?:(

LOL, I got my head buzzed just a bit too short the night before :D

PS, and dont worry, things are going to get much better cuz I got another 4 weeks.

SAF
 
OMEGA said:
potential tip for vasularity, and loss of adipidose water under your skin

heard this the other day from a competitior in person.....

about 1 hour or so maybe more drink shots of vinegar before you hit the stage.....it suppost to suck the water out from you skin


????????/ does this hold for any of you guys?????


I've never heard of that, and the thought of drinking straight vinegar is making me sick :D. But there are many tricks that people seem to promote as last minute stage enhancements. I've heard that having a glass of wine helps thin your blood and promote even more vascularity to your extremeties. I dont see what the point of having a thick vein going through your ear would have, but hey, it worked for someone! :D

SAF
 
Looking good man, very nice vascularity! Really great progress you have made since your last pics. Can't wait to see some pics of you the day of the contest.
 
SAF said:


LOL, I got my head buzzed just a bit too short the night before :D

PS, and dont worry, things are going to get much better cuz I got another 4 weeks.

SAF
just foikin' wid ya, dude!!

with your build, NOBODY's gonna notice your hair!!!!!!
 
you're looking badass bro....what does your diet look like? I like your stack....I was actually wanting to do the same thing but my financial resources had to go somewhere else. I can honestly say that I think you'll take the show!!!

good luck...and let us no how you do!!!
 
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You look great..hard as hell. You look ready right now! I'd be careful these last 4 weeks..it can be tough to hold that type of low fat and conditioning without losing muscle.
 
FlexBailey said:
You look great..hard as hell. You look ready right now! I'd be careful these last 4 weeks..it can be tough to hold that type of low fat and conditioning without losing muscle.

Thanks Flex. hey, you've competed before, so how do you think I would do if I entered as a middle weight? My weight is still hovering at 170, and because my protein intake has increased so much, my dieting has not effected weight as dramatically as I thought it would.

SAF
 
Dude, I don't think it matters what weight class you go into..you look fantastic. Let the chips fall where they may with your weight. Just go by the mirror. You have good size, good fullness, and you have and will have superb conditioning..can't ask for much more. You can basically coast into the show now..good job!
 
One word - Awesome! You've obviously done your homework. Now put it on cruise control. If there are any shows in your area sooner you might even consider doing one for practice - you look ready now. Kick ass.
 
SAF.....if I had your look at 4 wks out I'd play around with my carbs for a week to see how my last week would go. Try to figure out when you should carb deplete and load....others may tell you differently but that's my .02
I think you look ready to compete right now....that's why I'm telling you this!!!!
Good Luck bro!!!
 
bigmag said:
SAF.....if I had your look at 4 wks out I'd play around with my carbs for a week to see how my last week would go. Try to figure out when you should carb deplete and load....others may tell you differently but that's my .02
I think you look ready to compete right now....that's why I'm telling you this!!!!
Good Luck bro!!!

I was thinking about doing that, but it's slightly too late for that right now with only 3 1/2 weeks to go. I have an appointment with a dietician tomorrow night. This guy has competed in the past and placed very well at national-level shows. He works for Labrada Nutrition and he also has many years of experience in preparing competition diets for competitors, and he's only charging me $70 to lay out the next 3 1/2 weeks of my diet, including the last week of depleting and loading. Sounds like a good deal to me because I dont want to fuck things up at this point and waste 5 months of hard work.

SAF
 
look good bro, and smart investment speaking with the dietician. how many minutes per day do you spend practicing posing? good luck.
 
I read an article by Chris Aceto once about depleting and loading. It was pretty straight forward and what I have always used.
You start depleting on sunday and drop your carb intake by 50%. So if you were eating say 6 potatoes or 100grams of carbs you'd drop to 3 potatoes or 50 grams of carbs. You follow that for 4 days and than start loading on the thursday..going 50% ABOVE your original carb intake. So you would be taking in 9 potatoes a day.

I never did go that high in my carb loading but I might have went maybe 30% above my original carb intake.
 
sjhaxp said:
look good bro, and smart investment speaking with the dietician. how many minutes per day do you spend practicing posing? good luck.

I've been spending about 20-30 minutes per day posing. I'm following the "Perfect Posing" video which was worth the $30 I paid for it. I've got the relaxed stance and quarters turns down pretty well. Now I'm planning on practicing the mandatory poses. These are important to practice and hold for at least 1/2 minute because if you dont, you'll break on stage.
 
were did you get that video from....I've just been doing the quarter turns and mandatory poses and holding them for 1 min. each after my workout. I've also been working on my routine in the mid-day without actually flexing and just going through the movements with the music.
 
SAF said:

He works for Labrada Nutrition and he also has many years of experience in preparing competition diets for competitors, and he's only charging me $70 to lay out the next 3 1/2 weeks of my diet, including the last week of depleting and loading.
SAF

If you don't mind, post the diet in this thread once you get it. I'd be interested to see how it varies from the diets that other competitors here use.
 
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bigmag said:
were did you get that video from....I've just been doing the quarter turns and mandatory poses and holding them for 1 min. each after my workout. I've also been working on my routine in the mid-day without actually flexing and just going through the movements with the music.

You can get the video from here...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/perfect.html

Hope it helps,

SAF
 
Upper body looks awesome; post some pics of your frontal thighs and hamstrings if you can. If they look like your upper section, you'll win your class hands down. Also if you can get some Halotestin for the last 4 weeks. Good Luck.
 
SAF - The Perfect Posing video is ok but you should try to get ahold of Russ Testo's video. I think it's much more helpful.
 
not only did he have a body everyone here would like to possess; he was one hell of a good guy to chat with...........down to earth and not at all conceited.
 
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