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4 week tren cycle opinions

stevesmi

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I'm all natty baby!! for now.... :biggrin:. I'm busting my ass right now being natty and i've kept a good 80-85% of my gains and strength off my 3 previous cycles which is fantastic. but I know going natty that figure will slowly dwindle over the next few months which I accept.

anyway this fall/winter I want to dip my syringles into some tren.

I know Nelson advocates these short cycles and I like the idea to preserve the HPTA. plus I don't want to be shutdown for long periods.

has anyone tried this for tren ace? obviously I will run ace with the short esthers and most likely test prop. it would be counterproductive to run a long esther test if I want the gear out of my after 4 weeks.

so my plan is gonna be tren + prop 4 weeks. injections EOD. it will be a lot of injections but I think it will be a nice 4 week cycle, should get some tremendous gains.. and then I should be able to recover much easier then running tren 10 weeks. so basically 2 short tren cycles per year vs. 1 long one that takes an act of god to recover from is my idea here.

thoughts? opinions? experiences? :chomp::rainbow:
 
i kept ALL my strength gains coming off 12 weeks tren, though i did gain 12lbs post cycle (probably half fat)... now with your past experiences with deca recovery you may want to stay on the conservative side, i still think 6 weeks would be a good run... then you could also consider running it along side a long ester test going 8-12 weeks, depending on how confident you feel...
if you havent, check out my log, currently im running test 500wk, tren 350wk and proviron and getting great results...
im not going to say i fully recovered, because i have absolutely no proof, but i didnt have any libido issues or loss of size, strength, motivation etc...
i will also not comment further, but my PCT was very minimal, that which i will not try to get away with again...
imo, 4 weeks good results, 6 weeks you will be VERY pleased...
 
thanks moya I will check it out. I am in the very early stages of developing this cycle.. but I want it to be my best one ever.

I'm going natty for almost a year and when I run the tren cycle its gonna be 100% working out. i'm probably even gonna take a full month off from work to focus on training. should be fun.
 
I said I'ma never run it again but my summer cycle is 6 weeks prop/mast/tren mix but I'm adding 300 mgs mast pw making it

300 mgs test prop/300 mgs tren ace/ 600 mgs mast prop

also running dost during and post cycle :evil:
 
C.K. said:
I said I'ma never run it again but my summer cycle is 6 weeks prop/mast/tren mix but I'm adding 300 mgs mast pw making it

300 mgs test prop/300 mgs tren ace/ 600 mgs mast prop

also running dost during and post cycle :evil:
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what happened to you when you ran it? sides too much?

explain

I like the mast idea too, might give that a go also along with a little tren ace
 
ran it without test didn't know how to pct had no libido and lotsa hair shedding but that all happened after 5 weeks so maybe ill just run the mix 4-5 weeks then finish off with prop/mast making it an 8 week low side cycle :)
 
C.K. said:
ran it without test didn't know how to pct had no libido and lotsa hair shedding but that all happened after 5 weeks so maybe ill just run the mix 4-5 weeks then finish off with prop/mast making it an 8 week low side cycle :)
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yeah that is exactly why I want to just run it 4 weeks and see how it goes. its not necessarily being on that I'm worried about, its when i come off having my libido killed.

interesting about the hair shedding.. ur a young guy so the fact you shed hair is definately something I have to be worried about too cause I am way older.
 
was only on tren... do dht or ammount of test would make me shed a hair... I dunno depends how much I like primo this cycle... kinda pricey but if that 300 mg/ml comes out GAME OVER lol
 
stevesmi said:
I'm all natty baby!! for now.... :biggrin:. I'm busting my ass right now being natty and i've kept a good 80-85% of my gains and strength off my 3 previous cycles which is fantastic. but I know going natty that figure will slowly dwindle over the next few months which I accept.

anyway this fall/winter I want to dip my syringles into some tren.

I know Nelson advocates these short cycles and I like the idea to preserve the HPTA. plus I don't want to be shutdown for long periods.

has anyone tried this for tren ace? obviously I will run ace with the short esthers and most likely test prop. it would be counterproductive to run a long esther test if I want the gear out of my after 4 weeks.

so my plan is gonna be tren + prop 4 weeks. injections EOD. it will be a lot of injections but I think it will be a nice 4 week cycle, should get some tremendous gains.. and then I should be able to recover much easier then running tren 10 weeks. so basically 2 short tren cycles per year vs. 1 long one that takes an act of god to recover from is my idea here.

thoughts? opinions? experiences? :chomp::rainbow:
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Me personally..I would go 6 weeks.
 
C.K. said:
was only on tren... do dht or ammount of test would make me shed a hair... I dunno depends how much I like primo this cycle... kinda pricey but if that 300 mg/ml comes out GAME OVER lol
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primo was nice my last cycle. slow quality gains.. no water weight.

i actually put on 3/4 inch on my arms no joke in the first 3 weeks and held it even now after cycle.
 
C.K. said:
I said I'ma never run it again but my summer cycle is 6 weeks prop/mast/tren mix but I'm adding 300 mgs mast pw making it

300 mgs test prop/300 mgs tren ace/ 600 mgs mast prop

also running dost during and post cycle :evil:
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So ur not gonna run the Sust/mast/primo/tbol cycle anymore???
 
Deltoid_87 said:
So ur not gonna run the Sust/mast/primo/tbol cycle anymore???
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That's my spring cycle baybay I'm thinking way ahead tren for the summer lol and btw I only got half my order so i can't start till next mon :(
 
Steve I would say I recovered very smooth from 6 week test prop/winny cycle.
What about tren I did run it this time but I believe it was fake so I couldn't really advice on tren other roids short easters I recovered just fine and easy after 6 weeks.
I also believe thats 4 weeks is too short.What is your theory behind this idea?
 
babushka said:
I also believe thats 4 weeks is too short.What is your theory behind this idea?
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Nelson has talked about these short cycles as a way to preserve the HPTA. also people run orals for 3-4 weeks and see good gains.. i dont see why doing short esther injectables like ace and prop wouldn't work out. tren is awesome, everyone agrees. but I don't want to end up dickless after running it for 8 weeks if you know what i mean.

i'd rather run 4 weeks then off... then once recovered fully run another 4 weeks.. instead of going 8 weeks straight. like i said above.. for me my nuts start shrinking around week 5.. so i figure if i run ace for 4 weeks I would avoid that point of no return.

i've got a long time before I run my next cycle so trying to see what people think.
 
I planned on running it 6 weeks but i loved it so much i went to 20 weeks~ :)
 
stevesmi said:
Nelson has talked about these short cycles as a way to preserve the HPTA. also people run orals for 3-4 weeks and see good gains.. i dont see why doing short esther injectables like ace and prop wouldn't work out. tren is awesome, everyone agrees. but I don't want to end up dickless after running it for 8 weeks if you know what i mean.

i'd rather run 4 weeks then off... then once recovered fully run another 4 weeks.. instead of going 8 weeks straight. like i said above.. for me my nuts start shrinking around week 5.. so i figure if i run ace for 4 weeks I would avoid that point of no return.

i've got a long time before I run my next cycle so trying to see what people think.
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Isn't the main problem with tren and deca shut down not so much duration as progesterone/prolactin build up? I don't see you mentioning taking anything for those sides?
 
C.K. said:
Isn't the main problem with tren and deca shut down not so much duration as progesterone/prolactin build up? I don't see you mentioning taking anything for those sides?
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you better believe i'll be taking cabaser. i will never run tren or deca without cabaser.

with deca i believe the problem is duration of the esthers although there isn't enough research to back that up, thats just my opinion from using it, and a reasonable theory . with tren A that problem isn't there cause the esthers are out fast. thats why running it 4 weeks along with prop seems like a good idea.. it would not for deca which lingers 5 weeks after your last injection or a long esther test which takes 3 weeks
 
good point that's why I'ma run mine all the way through cycle and pct :)
 
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