4 days in to first ever aas cycle...a little help please

[Liftstrong12]

Here's the deal boys...
I just shot my first 120mg of Test prop on Monday. The pin was beyond pain free, I literally did not feel anything. The next day it felt like someone punched me hard as f**k in the leg. I pinned my thigh so I could see everything the first time around. Second pin was yesterday and I took some advice I've seen and decided to foam roll my thigh and stretch it out first. The injection was even better than the first as there was no nervous shaking (lol, I'm a little bit*h I guess). All I can tell you is by the end of the day my thigh was twice as bad as the first leg was. Manageable but definitely a limp. I did do a lot of squatting that night which may have had something to do with it. I plan on hitting the glutes next and will do one normal, and the other after running the bottle under hot water for a couple minutes...I want to see the difference there too.
OK, that is it for my experience so far....feel good though, good workouts, regardless if still in my head.

The real problem is that I am getting a lot of mixed info as what I need to add to my cycle both On and PCT.
Here it is and I apologize if you’ve seen this before. I appreciate all the help I’ve received so far, I’m just getting so much mixed info. It’s great that there are so many that take an interest in others journeys to get big.
I am currently running...
ON Cycle
Weeks 1-10, 400mg test prop/wk
Weeks 5-10, 75mg Var
weeks 1-10, adex .25 eod
(I’m looking to add HCG or HCGenerate here…having trouble with my source for HCG though…do I just go with the HCGenerate?)
Thoughts on Finesteride or something else? (I’m thinning from oral ph’s I’ve taken years ago)

PCT
Clomid 100/50/50/50
(it was suggested to add a mild AI to this, as well as Nolva…thoughts?)

It’s not that I don’t trust the advice, it’s just that there is so much conflicting info as I’m sure you've all seen too. Plus so much product promoting it’s hard to tell if it’s the right move for me, or the right move for the vendor (so-to-speak).

Thanks again for any help here

 

[buddhabuilder]

I am going to print this and work on it, but I have to say, you should have had all these questions worked out before ever starting any cycle. How old are you?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

the only thing you need to apologize for not doing any research on what you should be running for post cycle therapy. clomid only? fucking seriously?
you need either hcg or HCgenerate. even that isnt enough. read my sig and learn how to do a real pct with during and after bloodwork to back it up. stay the fuck away from nolvadex unless you are getting gyno.

learn how to do a hcg or hcgenerate blast before pct begins. there are only a few thousand pct threads on here. read the ones from the last month or two. they might not all be the same but you will find the constants that work.

learn why the shit that works actually works. dont just do something because someone says to.

 

[Liftstrong12]

I am going to print this and work on it, but I have to say, you should have had all these questions worked out before ever starting any cycle. How old are you?

Honestly I thought I did.

I had many people tell me that I was G2G. My research suggested that I had everything in check, but I don't want to F around so I keep asking and researching. ...but, you're right. I should have had it all figured out with no questions first.

 

[buddhabuilder]

From now on, put up any cycle, including PCT, on this forum for feedback before even ordering the stuff. How old are you?

 

[Liftstrong12]

From now on, put up any cycle, including PCT, on this forum for feedback before even ordering the stuff. How old are you?

I'm 34. If you look at my profile you will see that I have been asking questions for a couple months. The problem with all the threads, websites, and papers I've read online is that many contradict each other and many were written quite some time ago. That's not to say it's bad info, just that there could be more current info available. I hope to lean on actual people that are using these compounds now, and that can advise on currently relevant info. It's tough...I do appreciate all of the help.

 

[NegroPops]

Well welcome to the world of AAS. There is so much contradicting info out there.. that it is really hard to know exactly what to do. If you are running the cycle we talked about in your previous thread you are fine.

HCG - At week 4 and 5.. do a short blast.. 500 iu EOD. Then the same at weeks 9 and 10 right before PCT.

For PCT, you want a SERM, an AI, and Natty Test boosters.

 

[Liftstrong12]

Well welcome to the world of AAS. There is so much contradicting info out there.. that it is really hard to know exactly what to do. If you are running the cycle we talked about in your previous thread you are fine.

HCG - At week 4 and 5.. do a short blast.. 500 iu EOD. Then the same at weeks 9 and 10 right before PCT.

For PCT, you want a SERM, an AI, and Natty Test boosters.

So I should be ok with Nolva and/or Clomid as a SERM, and adex as an AI? Then I just need to add a natty T booster? Any recommendations?

 

[NegroPops]

I would go with Clomid over Nolva.. unless you have gyno or the symptoms of gyno, I'd leave nolva out of the equation. Dose clomid between 25-50 mg per day. Adex will work as an AI. Dose it at .5 mg eod. As far as natty t booster.. there are a a lot of options. I personally like Unleashed double dosed from protein factory. Helps to elevate and promote free test. Anything with fadogia agrestis is a good option. Also D-AA is a must.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

So I should be ok with Nolva and/or Clomid as a SERM, and adex as an AI? Then I just need to add a natty T booster? Any recommendations?

Really? I'll say it again....read the thread in my sig. Stay the fuck away from nolvadex. Do you even know what it does? its a breast cancer drug. Even the people that need it feel like shit on it. Its a garbage out dated drug that is only remotely useful if you are getting gyno. Not to mention one of the side effects can be blood clots. Guess what test does? it raises your RBC, hemoglobin, hematocrit and usually platelet count. What does that mean? Thicker more viscous blood. Add to that a possible increase in platelets. Sound like a good idea to add nolva to that?
I'm sure you probably wont listen to my advice because I'm loud, outspoken and say fuck a lot when I post. Why is that? Because I have spent 12 years here watching people make the same bullshit mistakes over and over. So I don't give a shit anymore how I come across.
Lets see some blood work from these guys that use clomid and nolvadex after PCT and see where their test levels are. The reason I have the link to my PCT thread is because I have multiple blood works posted in it to prove that a drug free pct is a much better option than a pharmecutical pct. You want definitive info? How about practical application and medical testing to back it up instead of articles or "bro-science".