3rd cycle....too much juice for my goals?Opinions?

[M56M]

Current Stats:
I am 5'9'' and 218lbs, i want to get to about 210, ripped. I don't know my bf% right now but i bet its about 15% or so, i want to get it down to 7-8%....


First cycle: i was 195lbs and did 10sust, 2 bottles of EQ, and got pretty ripped becuase of great diet/cardio.

Second cycle: I was 210lbs, BF% about 10-11%, and i did 12 sust, 2 bottles of EQ, and half a bottle of Ttkoyo Winny, i did not get as ripped becuase of diet.


I have:

15 - Nile sust.
3 - bottles of Ganabol EQ
1 - QV deca 300mg
30 - zambon winny
2 - 30/pack clomid
1 - liquidex(in the process of searching for it)

I was planning:

Sust 2 amps every 5 days for 15 days, then 1amp every 5 days
liquidex 1/4 cc ED
EQ 450mg/week (3 weeks before my last shot)
winny 50mg/EOD(last 6 weeks of EQ)

OR

EQ 600mg/week 12 weeks
Winny 50mg/EOD last 8 weeks

OR

opinions?

GOAL:
Weight: 210lbs
BF%: 7-8%


***I DON'T WANT TO GET MUCH BIGGER just RIPPED!! Should i use the sust at all? Is there too much to my cycle?

Thank bro i appreciate the help.

M56M

 

[TECH ONE]

I think you shouldn't frontload the sust just keep it at 500mg/week. Start EQ from week one till your done and use the winny near the end of your cycle. Also, you could buy some test prop(400-500mg/week) and use it for 2-3 weeks after your last shot of sust.

 

[M56M]

THANKS BRO!!

I think you shouldn't frontload the sust just keep it at 500mg/week. Start EQ from week one till your done and use the winny near the end of your cycle. Also, you could buy some test prop(400-500mg/week) and use it for 2-3 weeks after your last shot of sust.

Well the only problem is that i am a bit afraid of using that much sust. I was actually thinkin of just doing a shot every 5 days and only using 12 again.

I have learned that in the past i grow very easily off sust. and since my goal is not to get bigger i think it might not be what i want, still debating it though.

Thanks alot, any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

M56M

 

[Canuck4]

I agree.
Do the Sus twice per week.
Run both Sus and Eq for 10 weeks.
winny weeks 8-12
Start clomid week 13.
Run liquidex at 1mg EOD thru the cycle.
Good luck.
Canuck4

I think you shouldn't frontload the sust just keep it at 500mg/week. Start EQ from week one till your done and use the winny near the end of your cycle.

 

[M56M]

Canuck4,

Thanks alot bro, i guess i will do the sust. @ 500mg a week then. considering it is what most reccommend to do. Thanks alot bro.

Any other suggestions are welcomed and appreciated.

M56M

 

[M56M]

Can i start liquidex 2 weeks into my cycle or does it have to be as soon as i start the sustenon??

Thanks,

M56M

 

[Metal Gear]

Not sure how many cc of eq do you have, I'm think 150cc since most ganabols are 50cc vials so here it is:

Week 1-8 Sust 500mg
Week 1-12 EQ 600mg
Week 1-10 Deca 300mg
Week 6-12 Winny 50mg eod

Liquidex week 1-12 1mg eod

 

[TECH ONE]

It's up to you if you want to start the L-dex from day one But i usually start taking it near the end of my second week on test (enan, cyp, sust). Keep running the L-dex all the way till your finished your clomid and even a bit longer if you choose!

 

[M56M]

I was thinking about this last night and i say fuck it, i am going to do the 500mg a week of sust. AND i am going to do the deca also with the sust. Thanks for the help guys.

Metal Gear,

Hey bro i think you hit it right on the fucking target, i really like that right there, actually thats what i planned when i bought all this gear, as you can see i didn't even put the deca in at the top but you know what i am going to use it anyway. hey if i get too big who gives a fuck, TIME TO GROW!!!!

TECH ONE,

Thanks bro, what do you guys prefer femara, letrozole, or liquidex? and why?

Thanks.

M56M

 

[BigAndy69]

I think what you need to do is drop your calories to a very low level (gradually) and use gear as a way to perserve LBM.

How long do you plan on dieting? If it's 6-8 weeks, sust is not a good idea. Deca is a terrible choice for dieting (for me anyway)

Diet for 10 weeks and start the sust right away at 500mg a week.

When you get to a lower level of BF (when you are more susceptible to losing LBM) add a fast acting roid to the mix. Winny would be a great addition.

I love the 4mg/ml, 20ml liquidex...great product(seems overdosed) and at 160...it's cheap. You don't need Lev or Fem for 500mg of test.

 

[M56M]

I think what you need to do is drop your calories to a very low level (gradually) and use gear as a way to perserve LBM.

How long do you plan on dieting? If it's 6-8 weeks, sust is not a good idea. Deca is a terrible choice for dieting (for me anyway)

Diet for 10 weeks and start the sust right away at 500mg a week.

When you get to a lower level of BF (when you are more susceptible to losing LBM) add a fast acting roid to the mix. Winny would be a great addition.

I love the 4mg/ml, 20ml liquidex...great product(seems overdosed) and at 160...it's cheap. You don't need Lev or Fem for 500mg of test.

Thanks BigAndy, always a great help. I can't get my hands on that liquidex right now, i can only get the 1mg/cc one. I can also get the other 2 i mention Fem & Lev.

ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS?

M56M

 

[Metal Gear]

Thanks BigAndy, always a great help. I can't get my hands on that liquidex right now, i can only get the 1mg/cc one. I can also get the other 2 i mention Fem & Lev.

ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS?

M56M

email me bro, and i'll help you find the L-dex.