3rd cycle Test E/Tbol/NPP/Masteron 14weeks

[harrys]

Hallo guys,

I would like to write the cycle that I am just starting.

1-4 Tbol 70mg (20mg morning, 20mg 4hours later, 30mg one hour before training)
1-8 Nandrolone propionate 100mg eod (not phenylpropionate)
6-14 Masteron 100mg eod
1-12 Test En 250x2/week
1-14 Arimidex 0.5 eod
1-14 Proviron 50mg ed

13-14 Pregnyl 3x1500/week
15-18 Nolva 40/20/20/20 Clomid 100/50/50/50

I am planning to start from 4000cal and to finish with something like 3250!

My stats... 178cm(5feet 10) 87kg (192pounds) 15% fat

 

[zwhit]

Hallo guys,

I would like to write the cycle that I am just starting.

1-4 Tbol 70mg (20mg morning, 20mg 4hours later, 30mg one hour before training)
1-8 Nandrolone propionate 100mg eod (not phenylpropionate)
6-14 Masteron 100mg eod
1-12 Test En 250x2/week
1-14 Arimidex 0.5 eod
1-14 Proviron 50mg ed

13-14 Pregnyl 3x1500/week
15-18 Nolva 40/20/20/20 Clomid 100/50/50/50

I am planning to start from 4000cal and to finish with something like 3250!

My stats... 178cm(5feet 10) 87kg (192pounds) 15% fat

only thing I see is the HCG at 1500ius 3x per week. That's overkill. I don't like the PCT all together. I feel like shit on nolva/clomid.

 

[harrys]

Overkill? Why? What I have to loose if I use the HCG?
Think that I will use 8weeks nandrolone..

Also something else that I am thinking is that after 8weeks the cycle will be too much week and the myostatin will stop the gains..
So I am thinking to go the masteron at 525 or 700 per week! Or to add for the last weeks winny.. but it will be too much for me to use another steroid!!
But I still have too much fat and as I read it isn't the best for masteron! I know that the best steroid for me would be tren but I don't want to use it!

My age also is 26!

 

[zwhit]

I'm not saying to not use HCG. I'm just saying that 1500 ius 3 times a week is too much. I use 500ius/week on cycle and my nuts stay plump enough.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

hcg is all or nothing... I would only do 500 ius even in PCT... just my own personal opinion.. the extra is not gonna make you start producing any faster, its jut gonna lead to more HCG floating around the blood... Some people like the big hcg shots tho, and feel it gets them going faster. it only takes 500 for me to get the same effect of 1500 ius....

 

[harrys]

zwhit
So you mean that it is better to take 500iu x3 / week 1-14???
It isn't too much???

Also what do you think to do after the 8week that the myostatin will stop the gains?

 

[harrys]

Is it better to make the cycle shorter?
The changes... :
4-12 masteron
1-10 test en

Because as the myostatin brake the gains why to waste my time? And I will have less time off for the next cycle...

 

[calpoly]

If your cutting I would just use a
Low dose of test, 50-80mg var and 600 mast.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

zwhit
So you mean that it is better to take 500iu x3 / week 1-14???
It isn't too much???

Also what do you think to do after the 8week that the myostatin will stop the gains?

No i would not go over 500ius a week... after a certain point, it doesn't matter how much hcg u add, its waste... Your body will not produce more test based off an amount of synthetic gonadotropin... Not saying it won't be 700ius for u, everyone Is different.

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[zwhit]

No i would not go over 500ius a week... after a certain point, it doesn't matter how much hcg u add, its waste... Your body will not produce more test based off an amount of synthetic gonadotropin... Not saying it won't be 700ius for u, everyone Is different.

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This. 500ius/week total has always worked for me. I take 250 ius 2x per week.

 

[harrys]

Ok now I understand!
But for all the weeks? From the 1st untill 14th?

Also what do you think about myostatin and to make the cyle shorter or make it stronger?

 

[zwhit]

Ok now I understand!
But for all the weeks? From the 1st untill 14th?

Also what do you think about myostatin and to make the cyle shorter or make it stronger?

I usually start hcg around the 3rd or 4th week and run it until I start pct. Cycle length is up to you.

 

[Arabian]

Cycle looks solid and I would do as Zwhit suggested on the HCG at 500 per week. !500 is way to much and is a waste. Your pct of clomid looks fine if it works for you..

 

[harrys]

Ok guys I will start hcg from 4th week!

So I will keep the lenght as I wrote first!
The doses are you sure guys that they are enough?
I didn't see too many people to run only 350mg/week masteron!
I am thinking seriously to increase it!
Not at 6-8 that I will run also nandrolone...
At 8-14 I am thinking to increase it at 525 or 700

 

[zwhit]

Ok guys I will start hcg from 4th week!

So I will keep the lenght as I wrote first!
The doses are you sure guys that they are enough?
I didn't see too many people to run only 350mg/week masteron!
I am thinking seriously to increase it!
Not at 6-8 that I will run also nandrolone...
At 8-14 I am thinking to increase it at 525 or 700

Yeah bro, I hate to tell anyone to increase the dosage, but I don't see much from mast until I get around 500mg/week.