30 weeks dbol!?!

[luciano]

after 2 weeks of dbol one will weight 7 kg + so how dumb could someone b to call that 7 kg as "muscle gain" .I appreciate my progress watchin in the miror , touching my muscle with hand , measuring with a tape , i dont care to much about weight .
Just imagine 2 lbs of flesh , lets say beef from butchery and then try to mentaly put it on your arms and chest and shoulders so u will see that only 2 lbs of real muscle is a huge gain .PPl use to talk so easily about dozens of lbs of muscle gained in 2 months , this seem to me a joke .

 

[Sir-Que]

after 2 weeks of dbol one will weight 7 kg + so how dumb could someone b to call that 7 kg as "muscle gain" .I appreciate my progress watchin in the miror , touching my muscle with hand , measuring with a tape , i dont care to much about weight .
Just imagine 2 lbs of flesh , lets say beef from butchery and then try to mentaly put it on your arms and chest and shoulders so u will see that only 2 lbs of real muscle is a huge gain .PPl use to talk so easily about dozens of lbs of muscle gained in 2 months , this seem to me a joke .

And that's what i'm talking about!!.....My comments for the most part were for the people who take dbols and claim to be "up 10 pounds". I hear this all the time on this board, "i'm in my 2th week and UP 15 pounds", "I just hope I can keep all my GAINS".....now you and I know MUSCLE don't grow that fast, so why would a guy want to keep gains from dbol that are obvious, to me anyway, not muscle.

I'd never say there's NO reason for dbols or there's NO use for it, dbols do have their place. But for most I think dbols are used to pack on mass and that doesn't necessarily mean LBM, they just want to see the scale go up.

 

[DIVISION]

You sound like a fool, you're arguing with ME on a dbol for 30 weeks thread?? Why don't YOU do a search and bring me all the links and pics of these dbol cycles. LIKE I SAID IT'S FAKE GAINS AND ANYBODY WHO EXPECTS TO KEEP THOSE ARE FOOLING THEMSELVES.

I agree with your post, even though Brady is overrated and your Pats only actually won one of the past three superbowls they were credited for.




DIV

 

[Aquest]

isnt muscle about 80% water, and dbol creates water retention.......hmmmmmmmmm......makes ya think doesnt it

 

[luciano]

building big muscle is a slow procesus it takes time , years , no mater what steroid is used, use common sense

 

[DIVISION]

isnt muscle about 80% water, and dbol creates water retention.......hmmmmmmmmm......makes ya think doesnt it

It makes me think......WHO GAVE YOU ALL THAT NEGATIVE KARMA???

Nugga.....




DIV

 

[Aquest]

It makes me think......WHO GAVE YOU ALL THAT NEGATIVE KARMA???

Nugga.....




DIV

i could tell ya names, but that would just give them credibility, and im not about to do that, brother

 

[DIVISION]

i could tell ya names, but that would just give them credibility, and im not about to do that, brother

That's fine......don't tell me WHO.

but WHY did they do it?




DIV

 

[idcbp]

I don't think a statement could piss me off more than the incredible stupid and incorrect one made by Sir Q, an admitted newbie, that dbol gains are fake. I guess when I look in the mirror I'm hallucinating when I see my body. Right bro? Water weight is water weight and its gained with alomst and androgen. It helps build muscle and limits injuries. It can cause a bloated look, but that can be remedied during the cycle with anti-estros, or simply goes away post cycle with the cessation of andros. The muscle built during this process is still there. There is NO SUCH THING AS FAKE MUSCLE! Thats absurd. I guess Needsize swears by dbol b/c it gives him fake gains too! What a load of bullshit. Have you ever even used dbol? Otherwise, quit parroting what you hear other clueless posters polluting this board with. DBBT, if you've used dbol and don't like the estro effects, I can dig that, but I've always thought you knew a thing or two. You're telling me you beleive in the myth of fake gains? Muscle is muscle. Once you have it you lose it if you don't maintain the proper environment post cyle in your body. I have kept my dbol gains and I know tons of other who have as well. That means you can say you didn't keep you gains, an so can Division, and to that I'd say I'm surprised b/c you both are knowledgable and know PCT and post cycle dynamics (in fact I'd ask you bros to give it another shot), but I don't see how you guys can try to say that dbol gains for everyone are unkeepable when there are so many bros who have seen great gains and kept them. Not flaming, just surprised to see such broad generalizations from guys I know are in touch with alot of bros juicing so you must know some who have succesfully utilized dbol.

 

[DIVISION]

I don't think a statement could piss me off more than the incredible stupid and incorrect one made by Sir Q, an admitted newbie, that dbol gains are fake. I guess when I look in the mirror I'm hallucinating when I see my body. Right bro? Water weight is water weight and its gained with alomst and androgen. It helps build muscle and limits injuries. It can cause a bloated look, but that can be remedied during the cycle with anti-estros, or simply goes away post cycle with the cessation of andros. The muscle built during this process is still there. There is NO SUCH THING AS FAKE MUSCLE! Thats absurd. I guess Needsize swears by dbol b/c it gives him fake gains too! What a load of bullshit. Have you ever even used dbol? Otherwise, quit parroting what you hear other clueless posters polluting this board with. DBBT, if you've used dbol and don't like the estro effects, I can dig that, but I've always thought you knew a thing or two. You're telling me you beleive in the myth of fake gains? Muscle is muscle. Once you have it you lose it if you don't maintain the proper environment post cyle in your body. I have kept my dbol gains and I know tons of other who have as well. That means you can say you didn't keep you gains, an so can Division, and to that I'd say I'm surprised b/c you both are knowledgable and know PCT and post cycle dynamics (in fact I'd ask you bros to give it another shot), but I don't see how you guys can try to say that dbol gains for everyone are unkeepable when there are so many bros who have seen great gains and kept them. Not flaming, just surprised to see such broad generalizations from guys I know are in touch with alot of bros juicing so you must know some who have succesfully utilized dbol.

Relax, Relax bro.......

Take an valium....

I think most of the gains from D-bol initially are from the water retention in the muscle bellies and joints, which allow more leverage, and more weight to be lifted. After cessation of D-bol, much of this water retention is expelled and the leverage which was once favorable is not nearly as much, not so say there's NO GAINS from D-bol, but I wouldn't expect significant LBM gains from a D-bol only cycle.

Hope that clears it up on my end.




DIV