ur going about this the wrong way...inject the test,up the dbol..quit drinking...I was told by a friend who has done many many cycles to start at 10mg the first week and if it didn't seem to be working to go up to 15mg-20mg, I have to say that it seems to be working, my appetite has increased exponentially it feels like. I have considered taking it up to 15mg but it seems to be working at 10mg, also I have Test-E, I just haven't worked up the nerve to jam a needle in my ass.