2nd cylce

[austino123]

My first cycle a year ago was...

weeks 1-4 Dianobol 10 mgs
weeks 1-12 Test E 400 mgs

I had good mass gains and didn't experience much bloat once I was off the Dianabol. I didnn't experience any sides besides a little bloating...

As of now my body comp is 205lbs at 15% bf.

On hand for my 2nd cycle...

30 ml Test E 250mg/ml
10 ml Tren A 200mg/ml

Plenty of Nolv and Clomid for PCT

I would like to gain muscle mass while staying lean. I am looking for recommended dosages and/or additions? I have seen aromasin being used during this type of cycle, but I don't know why it is used or if I should be using it considering I will be taking fairly low dosages of Tren...

 

[bonacris]

Don't use nolva for pct.. especially with a 19nor like tren.. what are you using on cycle with the tren.. your PCT needs work man

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[Sherk]

Everything needs work. It sounds to me like you really don't know what you are doing and that can get you in some serious trouble with tren. My suggestion is put the stuff away and do some research. If you're going to run something as powerful and complicated as tren, you should be able to set up your own cycle with the proper ancillaries, know what those ancillaries do, know what the compounds your running do and what you should do if a problem arises. If you can't do that than I don't feel you're ready my friend. There's been a lot of people lately with lactating issues, gyno and limp dick. All stim from running cycles before they're ready and not knowing how to keep their hormones in check. It's great to ask questions to learn but in this case you're asking us to spoon feed you. With tren, or any 19-nor, that's a bad idea. Like mentioned above, nolva and 19-nors don't mix. It can actually antagonize prolactin and cause you trouble. You don't want to start breast feeding the neighborhood kids do you?


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[austino123]

I'd like to read more about using tren and test on cycle...do either of you know of a good source of information for using these two? and putting together a good PCT, that isn't saturated with a marketing motive?

 

[lithium1189]

I'd like to read more about using tren and test on cycle...do either of you know of a good source of information for using these two? and putting together a good PCT, that isn't saturated with a marketing motive?

This whole forum has a huge amount of info on how to run proper cycles. Do a search and look at all the tren cycles people have needed help in the past with and read the threads, it will provide you with all the information you need. You just need to not rush this and put time into your research.

 

[austino123]

From what I gathered from needto's steroids 101 is that I should have adex on hand and use it towards the end of the cycle to aid with sides from tren. I am ditching the nolv

It also seems hcg will be good for pct to help boost my natural test levels in between cycling and pct. My question is,would lowering the dose of test have somewhat the same effect as stopping test and starting hcg? I have a decent amount of test and would rather ween my body off with that rather than buying more ancillaries...money is tight these days

I have a cheap easy access to clomid so in would prefer to use this for pct as well.

This I a tentative cycle I think will best suit my needs for lean mass gain...

1-12 Test E 400mgs week
5-10 Tren A 75mgs eod
5-18Adex 12.5 per day

PCT
14-18 clomid 40 mgs per week


Criticize away....

 

[lithium1189]

What's your age and height bro?

 

[bonacris]

Adex won't help you with prolactin side which are caused by tren.. estrogen makes your nips puffy, prolactin can make your nips leak.. your not ready for tren if you don't know this sort of stuff man

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[austino123]

Adex won't help you with prolactin side which are caused by tren.. estrogen makes your nips puffy, prolactin can make your nips leak.. your not ready for tren if you don't know this sort of stuff man

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That's what letro is for, correct?

28 age
205 lbs
6'
15% bf

 

[bonacris]

Letro is a very powerful AI for estrogen but will do nothing for prolactin..

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