2nd cylce

[EZ_E]

I'm listening...the only thing I ask you to refrain from suggesting these pct formulas that everyone pushes on here. Although the product may work, there has to be a better solution to pct besides everything from one store...I would like to keep a broad aspect on how I acquire my pct.

My goal is to understand pct and on cycle ancillaries. like I have said, I have read through needto's steroids 101 and have been on this forum since 2007. I have read many posts but there is still many aspects of cycles I don't fully understand

Then I got nothin'

~EZ

 

[austino123]

Of course they are. A lot of people are still doing the nolva clomid pct and some even throw in hcg like you. Wanted to. The result is they lose a good amount of their gains, usually have libido issues after pct, and more often then not end up right where they started or worst. This is obviously a huge blow to Their ego and they end up jumping right back on within weeks after pct.


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What type of PCT would you recommend for this type of cycle (mast e & test e)...? Repos sing HCG with HCGenerate? Enlighten me...

 

[joeblow12345]

What type of PCT would you recommend for this type of cycle (mast e & test e)...? Repos sing HCG with HCGenerate? Enlighten me...

For a mast and test e cycle I'd run it like this.

1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 mast e 400 mg week
1-12 adex 0.5 mg as needed
6-10 hcgenerate
10-14 hcg 1000-2000 ius week

Pct 14-18
Clomid 25 mg day
Post cycle/ unleashed combo
Daa
Forma or an ai of your choice

Optional 18-22-bridge from Ntbm

That pct is fairly cheap at about $100 without the forma. There is also a discount code in my sig for 10% off and free shipping. The bridge is on sale right now along with hcgenerate. Adex, clomid, and hcg are dirt cheap. Like others have said, mast works a lot better in lower bf so I suggest you hit the diet and cardio hard for a month or two prior to starting. I also suggest using a fat burner to curb appetite and give you a little boost. N2burn is very good and its cheap so I suggest that. I also understand where your coming from with saving money. Times are tough right now for a lot of people and I'm always trying to save a buck myself. That's why I look for sales and discounts and take advantage when they are available and stock up. But don't jump into a cycle until you have all your ducks on a row. So if you have to postpone it a few weeks then so be it. There's no point in going into a cycle unprepared, and losing all your gains and wasting your time and money.


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[austino123]

Thanks for the pct tips...and yes, I will be lowering my bf before I start.

 

[austino123]

For a mast and test e cycle I'd run it like this.

1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 mast e 400 mg week
1-12 adex 0.5 mg as needed
6-10 hcgenerate
10-14 hcg 1000-2000 ius week

Pct 14-18
Clomid 25 mg day
Post cycle/ unleashed combo
Daa
Forma or an ai of your choice

Optional 18-22-bridge from Ntbm



That pct is fairly cheap at about $100 without the forma. There is also a discount code in my sig for 10% off and free shipping. The bridge is on sale right now along with hcgenerate. Adex, clomid, and hcg are dirt cheap. Like others have said, mast works a lot better in lower bf so I suggest you hit the diet and cardio hard for a month or two prior to starting. I also suggest using a fat burner to curb appetite and give you a little boost. N2burn is very good and its cheap so I suggest that. I also understand where your coming from with saving money. Times are tough right now for a lot of people and I'm always trying to save a buck myself. That's why I look for sales and discounts and take advantage when they are available and stock up. But don't jump into a cycle until you have all your ducks on a row. So if you have to postpone it a few weeks then so be it. There's no point in going into a cycle unprepared, and losing all your gains and wasting your time and money.


Use code joeb15 for 10% of at Ntbm.

Ntbm support number
tel:1-631-443-4461

Hit this link up for cutting edge transdermals.

http://forum-special-offer.com/dave-joeblow12345-elitefitness

Use the codes at ruthless supps for discounts.

NEEDTO51 $50 off any item
NEEDTO34 Buy 2 get 1 free phytoserms
NEEDTO24 Buy 2 get 1 free transaderm

http://needtobuildmuscle.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2972&d=1361062371

From my research the daa is spot on but I think I'm going to substitute just Trimethylglycine for the unleashed, milk thistle for the Post Cycle and Fadogia Agrestis for HCGen, as these seem to be the acting ingediants. (if anyone would like to clarify go right ahead im interested to hear your thoughts)

Lets get this thread going...

 

[austino123]

Are these the acting/main ingredients in these formulas? Very curious...

 

[austino123]

Crickets today...

 

[joeblow12345]

I'm not a chemist so I don't know which ingredients are the most effective and how to prepare the compounds. I just know from my own experience the Ntbm products do what they are supposed to do. The post cycle cleanses the body after a cycle, unleashed drives my libido through the roof, and hcgenerate makes my balls plump. I am also a firm believer that if its not broke don't fix it. The current formulas work great so I have no need to cook up my own version. Ntbm spends a lot of time and money developing these products to make them the best they can. They also offer regular discounts like the code in my sig, free shipping, and a money back guarantee. You also get the benefit of coming on ef and getting free advice on how to get the most out of the products. I know that most companies don't offer any of that, let alone being able to get your money back if your unhappy. So why bother wasting your money on inferior products, and companies that don't offer the same kind of customer service?

 

[dylangemelli]

If you cant look at my rests as well as all the people im recommending this protocol to and the kind of results they are having as opposed to an outdated pct then i dont know what to tell you bro... Im not going to lose sleep if you run a shitty pct... Im just here to help

 

[austino123]

Thanks